rustytaco | Hi! just got a new laptop and it seems i need kernel 5.13.x for my wifi to work - i run chimaera on my machines | 00:28 |
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_ds_ | rustytaco, you should be able to get 5.14 via chimaera-backports | 00:38 |
rustytaco | just main or non-free too since it relies on firmware-realtek? | 00:42 |
gnarface | firmware-realtek is in non-free | 00:44 |
gnarface | but make sure you get the firmware-realtek from backports if you also get the kernel from backports | 00:44 |
_ds_ | I'd second that, but firmware-realtek isn't in backports. | 00:45 |
_ds_ | (or at least isn't showing up as such here) | 00:45 |
rustytaco | which kernel does daedalus have? | 00:47 |
rustytaco | i dont mind to run testing on it for now. i eventualy will be swapping the SSD out an adding RAM after the warranty ends in 30 days | 00:48 |
_ds_ | … hmm, looks like 5.15 is in backports too. | 00:49 |
rustytaco | i need firmware-realtek that matches the modified driver tho i believe | 00:49 |
_ds_ | Nothing stopping you from pulling in only firmware-realtek from testing or unstable… | 00:49 |
_ds_ | Could be that the necessary firmware's already there in stable and is unchanged in newer versions of the package. | 00:50 |
gnarface | sorry should clarify: when (not if) firmware-realtek appears in chimaera-backports, make sure you're using it if you are also using the backports kernel. | 00:53 |
gnarface | until then it will probably work fine with the one from stable | 00:53 |
gnarface | (this general advice goes for any other non-free driver stuff that appears in backports, such as the nvidia non-free drivers) | 00:54 |
gnarface | you don't want to really update *everything* from backports, but some stuff from there is meant to be used as a set | 00:54 |
gnarface | since chimaera is pretty new though, not all the usual suspects have show up in backports just yet | 00:56 |
gnarface | shown up* | 00:56 |
gnarface | firmware-realtek doesn't change a whole lot though so it's probably a lot less picky about kernel version than nvidia drivers | 00:57 |
* rustytaco fires off a reboot to see what we get | 00:57 | |
rustytaco | looks good, thnks _ds_ / gnarface | 00:59 |
rustytaco | battery life indicator seems to lie - 6 hours remaining, but we'll see | 01:00 |
Smilex | Hey. How do I see when the next nvidia driver is available? | 09:15 |
gnarface | you can use "apt-cache search nvidia" or you can look at pkginfo.devuan.org | 09:25 |
Smilex | So apt-cache gives me too many results, and pkginfo too few :D | 09:27 |
gnarface | that's just the way they decided to package it, it's in a dozen packages, you have to version check them all sorry | 09:29 |
gnarface | i didn't do it | 09:29 |
gnarface | regexps might help, try this one: apt-cache search '^nvidia-' | 09:29 |
gnarface | woops, do that without the single-quotes, sorry | 09:30 |
gnarface | well, maybe it won't matter | 09:30 |
golinux | nvidia* | 09:31 |
golinux | That timed out before it was through! | 09:32 |
gnarface | i think it needs to be .* | 09:32 |
golinux | In pkginfo,devuan.org | 09:32 |
gnarface | yea | 09:32 |
gnarface | no? | 09:32 |
golinux | It needs to be refined but that is what I've always used | 09:33 |
gnarface | well search for nvidia-driver to find the main package to just check the version available | 09:34 |
gnarface | the problem is it won't necessarily depend on all the things it really depends on, so you might have to install or update some of them them separately | 09:34 |
gnarface | and they won't all share the same main version #, some of them will be weird | 09:35 |
gnarface | but at least then you can check to see when there's a major update | 09:35 |
Smilex | gnarface: thanks! | 09:36 |
gnarface | np | 09:36 |
gnarface | if you use the one from chimaera-backports make sure you also use the kernel from chimaera-backports | 09:37 |
Smilex | "The minimum required Nvidia driver for nvenc is 470.57.02 or newer" is that one available? | 09:38 |
Smilex | it doesn't look like it... | 09:38 |
gnarface | https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=nvidia-driver&x=submit | 09:52 |
gnarface | says it is | 09:52 |
gnarface | (in chimaera-backports) | 09:53 |
gnarface | note that you will need libnvidia-encode1, which i recall not auto-installing as a dependency either, and for Steam on amd64 you'll probably still need libnvidia-encode1:i386 too | 09:57 |
sabas3dgh | Do you prefer firefox or Seamonkey? | 13:42 |
sabas3dgh | Do you prefer KDE or Gtk/Gnome environment? | 13:43 |
sabas3dgh | Please answer these two questions! | 13:43 |
sabas3dgh | thanks | 13:43 |
debdog | palemoon and fluxbox | 13:43 |
djph | lynx | 13:44 |
djph | and looking down on people who need GUIs ^_^ | 13:44 |
sabas3dgh | debdog, does palemoon satisfy all the modern browsing needs? | 13:45 |
sabas3dgh | djph, Yes. way to go. 😄 | 13:45 |
sabas3dgh | djph, what if you need to watch a video on any number of sites? | 13:45 |
djph | and encouraging them to look down on people posting surveys to IRC :P hhehehe | 13:45 |
djph | sabas3dgh: "need" ? | 13:46 |
sabas3dgh | djph, netflix perhaps | 13:46 |
djph | that's on the TV, which is bigger, and the couch is far comfier than my desk chair | 13:46 |
sabas3dgh | 😄 to djph second to last reply .... | 13:46 |
sabas3dgh | djph, Good answer ... brilliant | 13:47 |
debdog | sabas3dgh: ideally get palemoon from its download site and not from the repo to be up to date. works better than seamonkey for me, regarding 'needs'. there are many plugins available. | 13:47 |
sabas3dgh | debdog, as I could remeber there was similar attempt named waterfox ( a classic branch ) | 13:48 |
sabas3dgh | debdog, going to see moonchlid about palemoon. | 13:49 |
djph | sabas3dgh: anyway, my PCs are primarily for getting tasks done. I do have and use awesomewm from time to time (eg. for zoom calls with people), but... | 13:49 |
sabas3dgh | djph, task orianted. is ASMWM still under development? | 13:50 |
djph | sabas3dgh: last activity was a month ago on their github | 13:51 |
djph | sabas3dgh: less task-oriented, and more attention issues. Less going on (e.g. CLI in screen) = more getting stuff finished. | 13:52 |
sabas3dgh | there was a surge way back ASMWM born on tiling windows managers. it was dwm/...../i3 all sorts of projects came and gone.... I was following that trend from the start.. | 13:54 |
sabas3dgh | changed a couple of windows manager | 13:54 |
sabas3dgh | never get the hang of tiling mode. always less place to work than more. wired windows ratio... | 13:55 |
sabas3dgh | BUT always like the idea of Mouse less system... | 13:56 |
alwaysin | /mode | 15:08 |
Kitty | I am having an issue with the installer | 16:20 |
Kitty | I tried it once, and it worked fine, but my luks key didn't work, so I had to reinstall. but now grub doesn't install properly | 16:21 |
Kitty | first time round I got asked about uefi boot, the 2nd and 3rd attempts did not | 16:21 |
Kitty | what am I doing wrong ? | 16:21 |
* Kitty starts going through the install for the 4th time this afternoon... | 16:28 | |
Kitty | and this time round, it was a) a lot lot lot lot lot quicker, and b) grub works | 16:35 |
fsmithred | which iso? | 16:35 |
Kitty | beowulf net install | 16:36 |
fsmithred | encrypted install can be confusing. I usually screw it up at least once before I get it right. | 16:37 |
fsmithred | with manual partitioning, I mean | 16:37 |
Kitty | 4 goes that took. But works now | 16:45 |
rustytaco | where does killall live? its missing on my new install. Strange. | 16:52 |
Kitty | /usr/bin/killall | 16:54 |
Kitty | and it's in sysvinit-utils | 16:55 |
Kitty | I think | 16:55 |
rustytaco | psmisc: /usr/bin/killall | 16:57 |
sabas3dgh | fsmithred, any good tut for encrypted install? | 18:17 |
fsmithred | sabas3dgh, for root partition without lvm, I have a video. | 18:18 |
sabas3dgh | fsmithred, please share if possible | 18:19 |
fsmithred | http://distro.ibiblio.org/refracta/misc/partition_encrypt-4.ogv | 18:19 |
parabyte | Arm port of Devuan | 20:52 |
parabyte | i spoke to the guy who is working on it here and i cant remember your name | 20:52 |
parabyte | if you are here i have a few questions i cant seem to find on google | 20:52 |
golinux | parabyte: #devuan-arm might be a good place to ask also | 20:53 |
asbesto | hello nice people | 20:53 |
asbesto | <3 | 20:53 |
fsmithred | parabyte, are you thinking of me? We spoke about arm, but I don't work on arm or know anything about it. | 21:13 |
bb|hcb | parabyte: maybe its best to ask your questions and let's see if someone knows the answer? | 22:31 |
raindodger | What's the question? | 22:33 |
gnarface | i think the question was both asked and answered in #devuan-arm; <parabyte> is firefox and chromium stock from debian or recompiled with different flags? | 22:35 |
parabyte | my hardware does not like neon cpu flags | 22:37 |
parabyte | and chromium and firefox are compiled with those flags | 22:37 |
gnarface | parabyte: almost all of the packages are the exact same debian ones, served by http redirect even, not mirrored | 22:44 |
gnarface | parabyte: the rebuilt ones should have "devuan" in the version name | 22:45 |
bb|hcb | https://wiki.debian.org/ArchitectureSpecificsMemo#arm64 | 22:46 |
parabyte | gnarface, ahhhh thanks for that tip, i never noticed the devuan prefix in packages | 22:47 |
bb|hcb | That is the Debian baseline for arm64; in case your cpu does not support neon extensions, there isn't much to do about that. You can use the 32bit armel or rebuild everyting with a different baseline setting (which is obviously not an option) | 22:48 |
gnarface | which armv8 chips don't support neon? | 22:54 |
gnarface | parabyte: not to be a pedant, but it's technically a suffix not a prefix. i don't want you looking in the wrong place | 22:54 |
parabyte | haha thanks gnarface | 22:55 |
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