| mum38 | hi Can someone help on how to fix this...? | 01:08 |
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| mum38 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 01:08 |
| mum38 | g++ : Depends: gcc-9 (>= 9.2.1-1~) but it is not installed | 01:08 |
| mum38 | g++-9 : Depends: gcc-9 (= 9.2.1-6) but it is not installed | 01:09 |
| mum38 | gcc : Depends: gcc-9 (>= 9.2.1-1~) but it is not installed | 01:09 |
| mum38 | I want to upgrade from bewolf to chimera and did the changes in the sources.list file but have ran into problem I am find hard to solve. | 01:09 |
| mum38 | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages. | 01:09 |
| mum38 | E: Unable to correct dependencies | 01:09 |
| mum38 | I copied the sources.list entries from the devuan site this was to upgrade to chimaera but now I am getting a lot of problems... | 01:10 |
| mum38 | Should I just forgetting upgrading and install from the desktop iso over the old bewolf ? | 01:10 |
| mum38 | Or is it possible to install bewolf over the installed bewolf to preserve the home directory, then if that possible, then try the upgrade to | 01:11 |
| mum38 | I'm using an old lenovo N500 laptop 32bit machine... | 01:11 |
| rrq | did you first do: apt-get update | 01:23 |
| mum38 | Yes I did... | 01:24 |
| rrq | mmm I asked because g++ supposedly depends on gcc-10, not gcc-9 | 01:25 |
| mum38 | ok | 01:26 |
| mum38 | I'm a learning newbie so I not 100% certain I have done the right things... | 01:27 |
| rrq | should work with: update, upgrade, dist-upgrade | 01:27 |
| rrq | "apt-get update" is always safe; it updates the indexes on your system | 01:28 |
| mum38 | apt update && apt dist-upgrade fails | 01:28 |
| mum38 | Reading package lists... Error! | 01:29 |
| mum38 | E: flAbsPath on /var/lib/dpkg/status failed - realpath (2: No such file or directory) | 01:29 |
| mum38 | E: Could not open file - open (2: No such file or directory) | 01:29 |
| mum38 | E: Problem opening | 01:29 |
| mum38 | E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. | 01:29 |
| rrq | hmm I don't use "apt" .. does "apt-get update" give the same? | 01:30 |
| mum38 | yes it does... | 01:30 |
| mum38 | The exact same message... | 01:31 |
| rrq | looks like some serious disk error :( | 01:31 |
| mum38 | oh dear... | 01:31 |
| mum38 | Start from a clean install ? | 01:31 |
| fsmithred | maybe check the disk first | 01:32 |
| fsmithred | filesystem check and smartctl | 01:32 |
| fsmithred | is smartmontools installed? | 01:32 |
| mum38 | no it is not... | 01:32 |
| fsmithred | boot installer iso to rescue mode and you can run fsck | 01:33 |
| mum38 | I can't install anything now ... | 01:33 |
| fsmithred | boot a refracta iso and you could run smartctl | 01:34 |
| mum38 | Can I boot from chimaera iso file and see if I can recover the problem | 01:34 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you could at least to the fsck | 01:34 |
| mum38 | where do I get refracta from ? | 01:34 |
| fsmithred | get.refracta.org | 01:34 |
| mum38 | ok | 01:34 |
| fsmithred | https://get.refracta.org/files/stable/ | 01:35 |
| fsmithred | current stable is devuan chimaera | 01:35 |
| mum38 | ok so get that one instead... | 01:36 |
| fsmithred | I have a very fuzzy memory of doing either an upgrade or migration from debian in which I had to remove build-essential | 01:36 |
| fsmithred | to get it to work | 01:36 |
| fsmithred | and then I was able to reinstall it afterward | 01:36 |
| fsmithred | build-essential includes gcc | 01:37 |
| mum38 | from the error message above I just checked if the status file is there and it's gone! | 01:37 |
| fsmithred | your /home is on a separate partition? | 01:38 |
| mum38 | Disk /dev/mapper/home_fs: 123.7 GiB, 132771741696 bytes, 259319808 sectors | 01:39 |
| fsmithred | did you install from a live-iso? | 01:40 |
| fsmithred | I'm always afraid to let any installer re-use my old home partition. | 01:41 |
| fsmithred | So I install to one partition and then mess with /etc/fstab afterward | 01:42 |
| fsmithred | in your case, it would have to be fstab and crypttab | 01:42 |
| mum38 | yes I did about 3 years ago install from a live iso... | 01:42 |
| mum38 | I'm thinking wipe and install from scratch with chimaera but backup my home directories firstly ... | 01:45 |
| fsmithred | that might be the easiest | 01:45 |
| fsmithred | and safest | 01:45 |
| mum38 | As that status file is missing so I can't install anything currently... | 01:47 |
| mum38 | Is there any benefit going to a secondhand laptop 64bit machine than using a 32bit machine using devuan ? | 01:48 |
| fsmithred | there are a few programs that are only 64-bit now. I almost don't want to name the one I know. | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | starts with 's' and almost rhymes with yikes! | 01:56 |
| fsmithred | but 64 is mainly for more ram | 01:57 |
| mum38 | I see as I often have the laptop grind to a near halt with firefox hogging memory... 64bit machine will solve this? | 01:58 |
| fsmithred | how much ram does the laptop have? | 01:58 |
| mum38 | Memory: 2.92 GiB | 02:00 |
| fsmithred | 64 probably won't help | 02:00 |
| fsmithred | your current kernel is 686 or 686-pae? | 02:01 |
| mum38 | Kernel: 5.2.0-2-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0 Desktop: Gnome 3.30.2 | 02:02 |
| fsmithred | you should use the 686-pae kernel | 02:02 |
| mum38 | Does that handle memory better ? | 02:03 |
| fsmithred | yeah, you need that if you have more than 2GB | 02:04 |
| mum38 | Mind you I can't install anything right now ... | 02:04 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I guess you can't remove anything, either | 02:04 |
| mum38 | I have had this laptop 15 years a really good work horse... I think I 2nd hand with more memory would be good.. | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | if you have time to play around, you could try 32 and 64 bit live-isos and compare the performance | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | lol | 02:05 |
| fsmithred | wow | 02:05 |
| mum38 | It probably could still work with a wipe and install the 32bit devuan again... Save me money lol | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | yes | 02:06 |
| mum38 | But the memory thing is a problem... | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | well, you might have 4GB with the pae kernel | 02:06 |
| mum38 | yes... I think that's a good idea... | 02:07 |
| mum38 | I'm off to lala land 1:08am here ZZZzz... time thanks for the advice fsmithred :-) | 02:08 |
| fsmithred | if you have live-iso with 686-pae you can see what free says | 02:08 |
| fsmithred | free -m | 02:08 |
| fsmithred | good night | 02:09 |
| Atari-Frosch | Just upgraded a virtual server from Beowulf to Chimaera. Is that expected behaviour that PHP modules are missing afterwards and have to be installed manually? | 12:20 |
| Atari-Frosch | Even php-fpm was missing. | 12:20 |
| adhoc | Atari-Frosch: question is, is the same behaviour true of upstream Debian ? | 12:42 |
| adhoc | Atari-Frosch: first thought would be, was the minor version of apache upgraded ? | 12:43 |
| adhoc | eg, 2.1.x to 2.3.y ? | 12:43 |
| adhoc | there may be config or binary api differences. | 12:43 |
| adhoc | just a though =) | 12:43 |
| adhoc | config files changed a few versions back, so it is possible there was another. | 12:44 |
| adhoc | (has been a while since I did the Beowulf to Chimaera thing) | 12:44 |
| Atari-Frosch | I don't know, I do not run a Debian system anymore. | 12:44 |
| adhoc | and most my machines I went to nginx to be honest | 12:44 |
| adhoc | Atari-Frosch: me either | 12:44 |
| Atari-Frosch | It is on nginx. :-) | 12:44 |
| Atari-Frosch | Right from the start (2017). | 12:44 |
| adhoc | Atari-Frosch: ok, I have not run php modules since ... er ... 2016 | 12:45 |
| Atari-Frosch | :-D | 12:45 |
| Atari-Frosch | The host runs a ClassicPress blog, an OwnCloud instance, and a MediaWiki. So … | 12:45 |
| adhoc | ok, so long as those CMSs are the right tool for the job =) | 12:49 |
| chomwitt | On http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/ where are the netinstall images? | 13:55 |
| fsmithred | chomwitt, the netinstall images are not on pkgmaster, but you can find mini.iso there | 14:02 |
| chomwitt | ok,thanks | 14:04 |
| fsmithred | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ceres/main/installer-amd64/current/images/cdrom/gtk/ | 14:07 |
| fsmithred | I don't know if it still works. mini.isos die when the kernel changes. | 14:07 |
| chomwitt | i was under the impression that pkgmaster is sth like the central-base repo and i looked first there for an iso. i've founded my deadalus iso in another mirror | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | chomwitt, pkgmaster is the central package repo. All the package mirrors copy it. | 14:19 |
| fsmithred | isos are on files.devuan.org | 14:19 |
| fsmithred | except for mini.iso which is a product of the installer package | 14:20 |
| furrymcgee | I would like to see only the mini.iso on www.devuan.org/get-devuan | 14:26 |
| chomwitt | thanks for that links | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | that would make a lot of installs impossible | 14:28 |
| fsmithred | chomwitt, poke around the directories there and you will find other interesting things | 14:29 |
| chomwitt | fsmithred, you mean in files.devuan.org ? | 14:30 |
| fsmithred | no | 14:30 |
| chomwitt | in pkgmaster? | 14:30 |
| fsmithred | https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ceres/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ | 14:30 |
| fsmithred | there's a non-gtk mini.iso | 14:31 |
| fsmithred | but you're usually better off with the netinstall iso. | 14:32 |
| chomwitt | why only ceres has those mini.iso ? | 14:34 |
| fsmithred | because I only gave you the link for ceres | 14:39 |
| fsmithred | there are others | 14:39 |
| furrymcgee | the mini.iso could offer a menu to build a local repository or iso image | 15:28 |
| furrymcgee | the image could be reduced some some ipxe scripts like this http://boot.salstar.sk/ | 15:32 |
| marnold | ah that's where a direct link to the isos live | 15:49 |
| marnold | the website certs have expired | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | marnold, should be all better now. Main site for isos is files.devuan.org but there are faster mirrors. | 15:58 |
| fsmithred | mirror list: https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan | 15:58 |
| oemb1905 | weird, chat history seems to have changed, but regardless ... was finally able to update/upgrade | 21:36 |
| oemb1905 | this time server prob is annoying as F tho | 21:36 |
| archaetryx | hi all - interested in building a preseed. would anyone happen to know if there's a devuan-specific example out there to start from? | 22:19 |
| furrymcgee | debconf-get-selections | 22:27 |
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