libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2022-01-29

ahhhhhaHello02:35
ahhhhhaI am having an issue with devuan while attempting to install02:35
ahhhhhaAnyone here that could help?02:36
AhhhhaSo02:37
Afdal...  So :}?02:38
Ahhhhaneed some help02:39
Afdalwith what {:02:39
AhhhhaHaving some issues with devuan installation02:39
AfdalGo on...02:39
AhhhhaBasically after I complete all the steps I can’t boot into my system02:39
AfdalHow far do you get?02:39
AhhhhaI get all the way until it makes me restart and after that I try to boot and grub basically doesn’t load my linux kernel02:40
Ahhhhaso I get no option to load into devuan just grub on cli02:41
AfdalYou using GPT or MBR?02:41
Afdal:c02:42
AhhhhaI am using mbr02:42
AfdalUsing any sort of encryption scheme?02:43
Ahhhhanope nothing02:43
AhhhhaI do although have a windows install02:43
AhhhhaI am planning to move fully to devuan but I have no other computer so I need this windows install at the moment02:44
AfdalMicrosuck tries to screw up linux installations if you do Windows afterwards, so I presume you've done it first right02:44
AhhhhaIndeed02:45
AhhhhaI shouldn’t see why windows would cause an issue like this but maybe you are wiser than me02:46
Afdalnah that's probably not it02:47
Afdaljust covering bases02:47
Ahhhhaokay02:47
Afdalcan you boot back into a live environment and confirm that your installation is complete on your drive?02:48
Ahhhhaas in a live environment of devuan?02:48
Afdalyeah02:48
Afdalother distros would probably work too02:48
AfdalSee if you can do a chroot into the Devuan installation you just completed02:49
AhhhhaWell I don’t have a live environment of devuan but I do have windows02:49
AfdalHow did you attempt to install Devuan?02:49
Ahhhhawhat I could do is install maybe void and use that as a forward point02:49
Afdallive environment as in, loading up from your installer off USB or CD or whatever02:49
AfdalI presume that's how you installed in the first place02:49
Ahhhhayea from usb but I’m using desktop iso02:50
Afdalsure, that02:50
Afdalboot into that and see if you can chroot into the build you just installed on your hard drive02:50
AfdalIf you can, then it's clearly a GRUB issue02:50
AhhhhaI mean I see all my partitions are fine02:51
Ahhhhathe devuan and grub + swap02:51
Afdalyou might simply try running02:51
Afdaluh02:51
rrqAhhhha: the installation has a "rescue" option02:51
Afdalgrub-install02:51
Afdalor that^02:51
AhhhhaOk no I’ll check quickly02:52
Afdalif the rescue option doesn't work for you, try chrooting into your installation and running grub-install from there02:52
AhhhhaWhat is more annoying about this is I don’t have the ability to setup networking02:53
AfdalSo wait, are you able to boot into your Wangblows partition?02:53
AhhhhaAs my realtek firmware is non free and not included in any iso02:53
AfdalPresumably there's a Wangblows option on your GRUB boot list, and you can choose it and boot it up successfully?02:53
AhhhhaNo02:53
Afdalono :}02:54
AhhhhaI just get put into grub cli no gui02:54
AfdalThe GRUB Rescue Console?02:54
AhhhhaYes02:54
Afdalyeah, sounds like GRUB didn't get setup properly then02:54
gnarfaceAhhhha: did you ever figure out if the other boot entries even show up in there?02:55
AhhhhaLike ?02:55
gnarfacewhen you go into the grub menu there should be like, default then other, and other should have at least your windows install and the linux install you just completed (default should be the same as the linux install but later when you have several kernel versions they'll all show up individually in this sub-menu)02:56
gnarfaceif you get to grub and there's no boot options something went wrong before that02:56
AhhhhaI’m in grub rescue02:56
Afdalthe os detect part of the grub install script may have failed02:56
gnarfaceevery boot menu option for linux should have a (rescue) mode boot option associated with it02:56
gnarfacehmm, grub could have been installed in the wrong place too02:57
AhhhhaYes but I don’t get the option to load anything02:57
AhhhhaJust forces me into rescue02:57
gnarfaceyea, something is wrong with that part02:57
Afdalerr, "os-prober"02:57
Afdalthat's what I meant02:57
gnarfacewhen you picked which partition to install grub to, which one did you pick?  was it like /dev/sda, or was it like /dev/sda1?02:57
Afdaloh yeah, there's also that common mistake02:58
Ahhhhasda402:58
Afdalaha02:58
Ahhhhabig mistake ?02:58
Afdalyeah, since you're using MBR, you actually want grub installed to sda02:58
AhhhhaI used auto partition because I don’t want to mess up my windows install02:58
Afdalnot a partition02:58
AfdalYou may have grub on sda4 right now, but your BIOS doesn't know that's where to look for the bootloader02:59
AhhhhaOH02:59
AhhhhaYOU ARE PROBABLY RIGHT LOL02:59
sycomight be a setting in the bios too03:00
AfdalSince you're using MBR, there's only one location your BIOS looks for a bootloader03:00
Afdalit's that little bit of unpartitioned space at the start of your drive03:00
Ahhhhayep it’s empty03:00
sycocan't remember the name but has something to do with booting windows or not03:00
Ahhhha1MB free03:00
AfdalYou tell GRUB to install there through "sda"03:01
Afdalrather than "sda*"03:01
Ahhhhahmm ok so I do that in partitioning or while installing grub03:02
AfdalI don't remember what Devuan's graphical installation tool is like, but many distros often have you declare it when partitioning03:03
AhhhhaBecause I can’t touch that 1MB in front of my windows install on my disk03:03
AfdalYou can fix this without a reinstallation though03:03
AfdalJust get into the live environment03:03
Afdaland do a grub-install to the right location03:03
AhhhhaOk I’ll get the live environment iso then03:03
AfdalThink you'll want to chroot too03:03
Afdalinto your existing system that you cannot boot yet03:04
AhhhhaOk one second03:05
AhhhhaQuestion so for my biosgrub partition do I need to  turn on bootable flag?03:06
sycouefi?03:07
Ahhhhano03:07
AfdalYou shouldn't have a grub partition03:07
Afdalif you're using MBR03:07
AhhhhaIdk the guided partitioner is doing it03:08
AfdalGRUB (or any other bootloader) gets placed on -unpartitioned- space at the start of your drive03:08
AhhhhaSo I should just delete that partition igs?03:08
AfdalYeah if you don't think it's doing anything03:09
Ahhhhakk03:09
AfdalBut if you were using EFI/GPT, then to answer your question no you wouldn't want a boot flag on that03:09
Ahhhhaokay03:09
Ahhhhaok time to test to see if the install went good brb03:11
Ahhhhaok03:14
AhhhhaInstall went good03:14
AhhhhaThanks for the help03:14
Ahhhha:)03:14
gnarfaceAhhhha: i think you're thinking of the /boot/ partition that auto-partitioning will (at least usually) create for you, but note that is *not* where Grub is installed either03:18
gnarfaceAhhhha: (and it is not required to use; if you don't make a /boot/ partition it will just put /boot/ under the / partition)03:19
gnarfaceAhhhha: sorry it took most of a week for us to figure out what was wrong, but i'm glad you've got it working now03:19
AhhhhaYeah thanks :)03:24
qwestionHas any OK ne claimed running on riscv ? The new c910 and co alibaba socs ideally...04:26
qwestionAnyone*04:26
gnarfacenot me, but let me know if you hear anything04:27
qwestionSure, just gonna leave this here in case ppl want a challenge/be a small part of the historically   important porting effort to foss cpu, not just licencefree riscv isa:05:10
qwestionICE RVB board https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003395978459.html 460 usd incl shipping05:10
qwestionfastest open source cpu that runs android/aosp, also runs debian 10, still slow bc needs asm+jit, ie for runtimes, js in browser, video decode etc.05:10
qwestionwork in progress05:10
bb|hcbI have high hopes for riscv but the above is not much more than an overpriced raspberry05:21
gnarfaceqwestion: if you're looking for a conversation about it, feel free to bring it up in #devaun-offtopic too05:29
gnarfaceit seems like #devuan-arm might also be an appropriate place but i'm not 100% sure of that05:30
qwestionMaybe therell be need for riscv room eventually,  as debian-riscv oftc05:31
gnarfacewe can only hope05:33
bb|hcbUntil riscv grows more, it wouldn;t be inappropriate to discuss that in -arm...05:35
gnarfaceyea but i can imagine the possibility it won't grow enough to get its own channel and instead they might just end up collapsing both into something like #devuan-sbc05:36
gnarfaceor #devuan-soc or the like05:36
qwestionMaybe devuan-ports? For ppc64le too especially05:37
gnarfaceyea, i dunno.  unfortunate contextual overlaps with the -sbc and -soc abbreviations do exist05:37
gnarfacefortunately it's not my call though05:38
qwestion-Alt-arches also05:39
loverhello13:49
loverany one knows what time manager devuan uses?13:50
loverdoesnt seem like it uses ntpd13:50
lover: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-updates/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 50min 15s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.13:50
loverE: Release file for http://deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/chimaera-security/InRelease is not valid yet (invalid for another 2h 34min 19s). Updates for this repository will not be applied.13:50
gnarfaceif lover comes back tell them that it absolutely does use ntpd but the package name is just called ntp and the problem with his error is clearly system clock related anyway14:18
gnarfacehopefully they figured that out on their own14:18
onefangDevuan can use ntpd if you install it.  Those error messages likely mean your clock isn't set correctly.  If it is set correctly, let me know the IP deb.devuan.org reported.  deb.devuan.org is a DNS Round Robin, so there's a bunch of servers that respond to it.14:19
onefangSNAP!14:19
* onefang goes back to weekend mode. gnarface is here to solve everyone's problems! Thankies gnarface for all your hard work. B-)14:20
Berndthe raspi images at http://arm-files.devuan.org/RaspberryPi%20Signed%20Releases/ are signed by adam@dyne.org, does anybody know where to get adams pblic key?15:29
bb|hcbhttp://keyserver.ubuntu.com/pks/lookup?search=adam%40dyne.org%2C&fingerprint=on&op=index15:39
BerndThanks!15:58
BeerHello, I got a cgroup problem I am unable to pin down. All the "hierarchy" values in /proc/cgroups are set to 0. What have I borked?18:24
BeerMMmh //usr/bin/cgroups-mount was failing due to some hiccup in awk18:39
Beernvm18:39
oemb1905zOO19:23
xmszknhi20:55
XenguyYes, thanks gnarface21:56

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