libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2022-02-19

fsmithredI've done it manually from a live usb. Not sure if I've done it from grub.00:00
fsmithredif it works, it'll give you the grub menu from the ssd00:02
onefangset root=(md/10,gpt1)00:05
fsmithredoh, ok00:05
onefangGot that to work eventually.  Now to make it permanent.00:31
fsmithredupdate-grub from within the installled system00:31
fsmithredoh, that won't work if the usb is running grub00:32
fsmithredin that case, you need to add an entry manually to the first grub menu.00:32
ElPresidenteIs ceres usable on Devuan like it is on Debian?02:06
ElPresidenteI prefer to run said on my desktops.02:06
ElPresidentesid*02:07
fsmithredElPresidente, yeah, there are some people running ceres, and they say it's ok. If you're used to sid, it's mostly the same.02:10
golinuxElPresidente: Some here do.02:10
ElPresidentei'll probably run devuan ceres then02:13
gnarfacejust like with debian, the easiest way to get it is usually to just do a minimal install of stable then upgrade through testing to it02:25
brocashelmno issues with ceres. it's very stable for me. just don't expect much support if something breaks because it's not an lts release02:34
brocashelmdon't forget to install apt-listbugs and apt-listchanges02:35
onefangsledjhamr.org is back up for all your package mirror needs.  B-)02:52
onefangAnd I should get some sleep.  lol02:52
golinuxonefang: Well done!03:14
XenguyGood one onefang03:42
XenguySounds like a busy job03:43
XenguyYou were talking about RAID and other stuff, and I was just <shiver>03:44
XenguyLast thing you want at upgrade time is for things to go south03:44
XenguyJust really glad things worked out.  Upgrades make me nervous sometimes actually03:46
brocashelmis it possible to run an xfce-based devuan system with less than 1,000 packages installed? lowest i can go right now is about 1,600 packages, and i removed a lot of kde stuff in the process23:36
gnarfacenot sure about package count, but what is the install size?23:41
gnarfaceditch the gui login and you probably save a lot of packages23:42
brocashelmi've been using startx this whole time23:45
brocashelmusing 60 gb on a 250 gb drive (just for the os)23:46
gnarfaceoh, something is off the rails there for sure23:47
gnarfaceyou should be able to do this in less than 2GB23:47
gnarfacei never paid much attention to the package count, but the base install size for a window manager is around 2GB.  a minimal install is around 500MB if you don't install anything else.23:47
gnarfaceKDE is a lot bigger, probably pulled in tons of cruft if you let it23:48
brocashelmi don't even have any wine, libreoffice, kde, etc. installed on this machine23:48
gnarfacelots of that stuff is ostensibly compatible with other WMs so it may not have been auto-removed with KDE23:48
brocashelmmight also be due to the logs23:48
gnarfacewell, could be... those would be some pretty big logs though23:49
gnarfaceyou should have logrotate to take care of that23:49
gnarfaceyou might have better results if you start with a minimal install, then disable recommends, then only install what you need ala-carte23:49
gnarfaceif you pick one of the desktop tasks in the tasksel phase of the install it will load you up with everything they could find an excuse to bundle23:50
brocashelmtasksel never seemed to work for me23:50
gnarfaceodd23:51
gnarfacedo you use the stable install image or are you trying to jump straight to testing or unstable?23:51
brocashelmi was running the chimaera minimal iso and it told me there was a bug (don't remember which) and i had to report it to debian's bug team23:51
gnarfaceyou can install and run tasksel after you install23:51
gnarfacejust fyi23:51
gnarfacebut that won't necessarily lower the package count in your situation... 60GB is a lot23:52
brocashelmmy daily drivers all use unstable, but i always start with stable23:52
gnarface60GB is like a full suite worth of software... how you could have reached 60GB without installing libreoffice practically boggles the mind23:52
brocashelmchecking baobab, /var takes about 19 gb23:53
brocashelmhmm, pacct seems to be the culprit (17.7 gb)23:53

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