| terryc_ | Humid day here | 04:53 |
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| terryc_ | s it normally this quiet at this TOD? | 05:55 |
| golinux | It's been a very slow day. | 05:59 |
| golinux | Just ask your question and wait for someone to pop up. | 05:59 |
| golinux | terryc_: ^^^ | 05:59 |
| terryc_ | Is there a copy function in grub prompt? (Borked chimaera install & trying to add stuff like frmmware, img, etc) | 06:36 |
| gnarface | probably not but try emacs bindings; ctrl+k/ctrl+y | 06:37 |
| terryc_ | no emacs, this is at grub prompt | 06:39 |
| gnarface | it might still work. it works in lots of other places, and the ones that don't usually are using vi bindings instead | 06:40 |
| gnarface | i wouldn't expect much though out of the grub edit prompt. it's probably better to edit the menu entries from the booted system then run update-grub | 06:41 |
| terryc_ | ok, TY, I'll need to ask on forum as there ios no bootable system or usable install prog(amdgpu firmware problem) | 07:07 |
| gnarface | terryc_: are you sure you don't just need the firmware-amd-graphics package from non-free? | 07:26 |
| gnarface | terryc_: that shouldn't need any grub meddling | 07:26 |
| phillipsjk | so apparently I can set the "ondemand" governor for all CPUs at once, but I need to set the "powersave" governor to each CPU independently. | 10:07 |
| phillipsjk | Gets tedious after the first 16 core pysical CPU (humble brag). | 10:08 |
| onefang | Very humble, I got 64 cores on my super desktop. B-) | 10:09 |
| onefang | Script it? | 10:09 |
| phillipsjk | yes, I want to put it in my start-up script. | 10:10 |
| onefang | You know how to write a bash for loop? | 10:11 |
| phillipsjk | I supose if I ever get around to experimenting with different work-loads I can treat them differently. | 10:12 |
| * phillipsjk has 64cores in total on his "white elephant" | 10:13 | |
| phillipsjk | I know what a for loop is, never did it in bash. | 10:13 |
| phillipsjk | looks like my RC script uses sh. | 10:14 |
| onefang | sh for loop will be the same as bash. | 10:15 |
| phillipsjk | ..I think it would have been faster to copy& paste 63 times at this point. | 10:51 |
| phillipsjk | finally got the syntax right. Apparently sh requires a while loop if you don't want to type the entire list of numbers. | 10:58 |
| phillipsjk | Not entirely sure (power draw varies based on exact workload), but may have saved 40W doing that. | 11:13 |
| phillipsjk | with "ingonre_nice_load" a few cores were occasionally running at 1.7Ghz instead of 1.4Ghz. | 11:14 |
| * phillipsjk guesses the savings are closer to 20W | 11:21 | |
| Walex2 | phillipsjk: I guess you used something like: seq 0 63 | while read I; do cpufreq-set -g ondemand -c "$I"; done | 15:02 |
| Walex2 | phillipsjk: but note that "powersave" governor is a lot more limiting than "ondemand" and might lead to higher power consumption. | 15:03 |
| phillipsjk | Walex2, I know the computer is slightly less efficient at the minimum clock-speed, but I am limited by the heat dissipation of the room. | 18:48 |
| phillipsjk | Used the "POSIX" section of this tutprial (apparently the whitespace between the square brackets is important): https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-for-loop-1-to-10/ | 18:49 |
| phillipsjk | The AMD frequency sensitivity powersave bias driver for the Ondemand scheduler looks interesting if I am not heat limited: It is smart enough not to ramp up the processor speed if the memory bus is saturated. | 18:50 |
| nemo | So, ceres finally has the 5.16 kernel | 19:28 |
| nemo | I was wondering. is it safe to switch a computer entirely to ceres these days? I did it once last year for a graphics card bug. | 19:28 |
| nemo | But I imagine safety of this depends on the state of "unstable" upstream | 19:28 |
| nemo | Alternatively, is it possible to use the ceres kernel with chimæra ? | 19:29 |
| Guest94830 | The testing branch (at least in my experience on Debian) was pretty stable | 19:30 |
| * nemo glances hopefully in fsmithred's direction | 19:35 | |
| nemo | sorry for the highlight, but you often seem familiar with this ☺ | 19:35 |
| nemo | maybe I should do it after her workday is finished | 19:35 |
| golinux | <Guest94830> ceres = sid = unstable. | 19:50 |
| golinux | Guest9483 ^^^ | 19:50 |
| golinux | Devuan testing is Daedalus | 19:51 |
| rwp | nemo, The successful use or not of Unstable depends entirely upon the skill and confidence of the admin using it. | 21:59 |
| rwp | For example the Perl migration last week caught me because I upgraded in the middle of it. If I had known, I would have waited. | 21:59 |
| rwp | For two days I could not perform basic apt actions because it used perl. | 22:00 |
| rwp | Waited for the migration of repos to complete. Then manually downloaded the *old* version of the packages I needed. Then upgraded. That got things working. | 22:01 |
| rwp | If all of these types of things sound perfectly normal to you then Unstable will work great for you. If not then maybe Testing is better. | 22:01 |
| nemo | rwp: it's just being used as desktop for my SO | 22:35 |
| nemo | she uses it for Firefox, OpenOffice, Virtualbox, Stardew Valley and a curious yet awesome piece of software called 7th String | 22:36 |
| nemo | which is useful when transcribing things and far far better than the other options out there, but with better features, price and cross-platform | 22:36 |
| nemo | before that we struggled with a horrendous windows software that she'd paid $100 for | 22:37 |
| nemo | thankfully they gave us a refund | 22:37 |
| nemo | I guess the one most likely to break would be Virtualbox | 22:37 |
| rwp | nemo, On MS-Windows VirtualBox is often cited as a good VM host infrastructure. But on Linux VB has a trouble history and is generally not as good as KVM. | 23:11 |
| rwp | On Linux KVM is the best VM hosting to use. And most casual users are probably using it with libvirt using virt-manager and virt-viewer. | 23:12 |
| rwp | I'll just note that MS-Windows runs very well in KVM and that's a workaround for a lot of people when some bit requires MS-Windows. | 23:13 |
| rwp | You mention 7th String and though this isn't a replacement I am sure you are aware of https://lilypond.org/ for producing sheet music. | 23:15 |
| rwp | I look at the gave Stardew Valley you mentioned and it looks prime to be run in a MS-Windows VM. I play other titles that way and it works well but I might have some important hints. | 23:21 |
| rwp | I am looking at your listed LibreOffice (You said OpenOffice but I recommend LibreOffice) and it seems unusual to me that the version from Stable isn't sufficient. | 23:22 |
| rwp | I just don't see spreadsheets and presentations as changing that rapidly at the moment. | 23:23 |
| rwp | I look at your listed Firefox and you might not be aware but packaged is the ESR suite. I prefer it. It's more stable. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/enterprise/ | 23:24 |
| rwp | But if you want the daily release bits I load it from Mozilla for testing on a system and it works just fine too. | 23:24 |
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