| rrq | note: dev1galaxy will go down shortly for a few minutes | 00:30 |
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| IdleRelayChat | brocashelm, only on OS X. I can't seem to find it in chimaera | 00:56 |
| brocashelm | idlerelaychat: debian does not officially maintain it, but you can grab debs from the official strawberry github page: https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry/ | 01:06 |
| brocashelm | it's pretty good, since it's a fork of clementine and meant for audiophiles with extensive collections | 01:06 |
| IdleRelayChat | i've given it a try in os x when it was new, but they raised system requirements multiple times already, so i simply stuck with clementine. however i now need clementine in a devuan vm and it doesn't work. i'll give strawberry a try when i have gotten some sleep | 01:09 |
| IdleRelayChat | i can't really concentrate anymore rn | 01:09 |
| brocashelm | idlerelaychat: sleep well! https://github.com/strawberrymusicplayer/strawberry/releases/download/1.0.2/strawberry_1.0.2-bullseye_amd64.deb | 01:13 |
| IdleRelayChat | thank you :) | 01:15 |
| syco | is that another fork from amarok/clementine ? | 01:18 |
| syco | clementine works fine form me on devuan btw | 01:19 |
| syco | s/from/for | 01:19 |
| brocashelm | it is a fork | 01:21 |
| Soltis | php8.1-mysql : Depends: php8.1-common (= 8.1.2-1+b1) but 8.1.2-1+devuan3~1 is to be installed | 08:43 |
| Soltis | is there a reason a rather significant dependency is completely and utterly hosed at the moment? | 09:14 |
| gnarface | if it changed recently it could be build time or propagation delay | 09:16 |
| gnarface | maybe see if pkgmaster.devuan.org is also giving the same results | 09:17 |
| gnarface | or just try some of the other mirrors | 09:17 |
| gnarface | the default deb.devuan.org is a dns round-robin | 09:17 |
| u-amarsh04 | gnarface and Soltis I am also seeing that at the moment, has happened far too often in the last several months | 11:23 |
| IdleRelayChat | brocashelm, nice, strawberry does the trick so far | 12:16 |
| IdleRelayChat | thank you | 12:16 |
| u-amarsh04 | debian.bio.lmu.de seems to be a culprit | 14:37 |
| onefang | A culprit in what? | 14:38 |
| onefang | I just rejoined the IRC server, missed any previous conversations for the last hour or so. | 14:40 |
| ham5urg | Does Devuan has a linux-image-rpi in its repo? I can't find it. | 14:41 |
| u-amarsh04 | I'm trying to do ceres upgrades and cups and firefox packages are shown as upgradeable but get a not found when running aptitude | 14:42 |
| u-amarsh04 | these kinds of problems sometimes don't resolve until other new versions of packages arrive | 14:43 |
| onefang | ham5urg: https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan has a section on "Installation Media for amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, i386 and ppc64el" that might help you. | 14:43 |
| u-amarsh04 | not found is happening both on IPV4 and IPV6 addresses | 14:43 |
| onefang | Did you try another mirror? | 14:44 |
| u-amarsh04 | deb.devuan.org, been several hours like this, switching from locally running named to ISP's DNS doesn't get to a different server either | 14:46 |
| onefang | Manually pick a different mirror from https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt | 14:46 |
| gnarface | ham5urg: no packaged ARM kernels yet, afaik; all the ARM images have device-specific custom kernels | 14:48 |
| onefang | #devuan-arm can help you with ARM stuff. | 14:48 |
| ham5urg | gnarface, I just found an linux-image-rpi in debian, I was curious if it would be in Devuan too. | 14:49 |
| onefang | u-amarsh04: what's the version for the ceres cups update you are not finding? | 14:50 |
| onefang | Firefox packages are redirected to Debian mirrors, since we don't fork that. | 14:51 |
| u-amarsh04 | thanks onefang, will have to check in a few minutes, ftp.fau.de was missing a Release file also | 14:53 |
| onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/devuan/pool/main/c/cups/ is what I got on my package mirror for cups. | 14:53 |
| u-amarsh04 | ceres Release file also missing from mirror.ungleich.ch | 14:54 |
| onefang | apt-panopticon is showing them all good though, and it tests for that. | 14:55 |
| u-amarsh04 | trying to get cups 2.4.1op1-2, firefox 98.0-1, linux-libc-dev 5.16.12-1 | 14:56 |
| u-amarsh04 | https://sledjhamr.org/devuan/devuan/pool/main/c/cups/ is just showing me files from 2019-11-18 | 14:58 |
| onefang | It's showing the Devuan forked files, anything we don't fork is redirected to Debian package mirrors. | 14:59 |
| u-amarsh04 | my normal url in /etc/apt/sources.list is http://deb.devuan.org/merged | 15:00 |
| onefang | The "merged" bit means "Devuan forked packages merged with Debian packages we don't fork". | 15:00 |
| u-amarsh04 | changing to http://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/merged worked | 15:02 |
| u-amarsh04 | at least updated, but still not found error | 15:03 |
| u-amarsh04 | earlier I had forgotten to add the end of the baseURL when changing mirrors | 15:05 |
| onefang | Well ceres is "unstable", maybe what you said before - wait a while for it to be a bit more stable. | 15:05 |
| u-amarsh04 | now downloading the packages from ftp.fau.de | 15:05 |
| onefang | All good now? | 15:05 |
| u-amarsh04 | well I would like to understand the underlying problem that lasts for hours rather than briefly while the mirror synchs | 15:06 |
| onefang | Is it only happening in ceres / unstable? | 15:08 |
| u-amarsh04 | as far as I can tell, but I run both pc's here on unstable | 15:09 |
| gnarface | they break unstable all the time upstream | 15:09 |
| gnarface | sometimes they break it on purpose | 15:09 |
| gnarface | keep backups | 15:09 |
| onefang | I'd just put it down to being unstable, what it says on the tin. | 15:09 |
| u-amarsh04 | it's different from that, didn't used to happen with devuan | 15:09 |
| u-amarsh04 | and running debian since 2004 | 15:10 |
| sadoon_albader[m | Happened to me with debian ppc and ppc64 a few times, also unstable obviously | 15:12 |
| u-amarsh04 | the fact that ftp.fau.de worked but debian.bio.lmu.de didn't suggests something broken both with debian.bio.lmu.de and the round robin process | 15:12 |
| onefang | I never run unstable, so no idea how stable it is. | 15:13 |
| gnarface | usually happens about 3-6 times a year if you're using nvidia drivers. i bailed out on them just because of that actually. | 15:13 |
| gnarface | unstable is where the non-free stuff really shows its true form | 15:14 |
| onefang | If sledjhamr only has cups packages from 2019, it's entirely possible we stopped forking that at the time. In which case both cups and firefox are being redirected to Debian mirrors. | 15:14 |
| onefang | apt-panopticon tests the Devuan package mirrors every ten minutes. It obviously can't test every package every ten minutes, and tries to be gentle on mirrors by picking small packages to test. I base decisions on which mirror is in or out of the DNS-RR mostly on it's results. Part way through automating that. | 15:18 |
| onefang | https://sledjhamr.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html http://veritas.devuan.org/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html | 15:19 |
| onefang | https://borta.devuan.dev/apt-panopticon/results/Report-web.html only tests once an hour. | 15:19 |
| u-amarsh04 | so all those reports are giving 1 HTTP failure on deb.devuan.org and an X for DNS round robin on deb.devuan.org | 15:23 |
| onefang | After midnight here, and I'm tired. So I'm just gonna blame unstable and Debian, then maybe head to bed. B-) | 15:23 |
| u-amarsh04 | thanks for helping, get a good sleep | 15:23 |
| onefang | Ignore the deb.devuan.org failures, that's a known bug. | 15:23 |
| onefang | "X for DNS round robin on deb.devuan.org" means the DNS-RR isn't gonna redirect deb.devuan.org to deb.devuan.org. | 15:24 |
| u-amarsh04 | ah | 15:24 |
| brocashelm | idlerelaychat: you're welcome! | 20:04 |
| like2 | hi all | 20:06 |
| IdleRelayChat | brocashelm, it's running strong and stable since I wrote that last message :D | 20:16 |
| brocashelm | idlerelaychat: i told you dude ;) | 20:24 |
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