| user | yo | 06:28 |
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| user | the net and minimal server installers aren't letting me make any partitions except ext2, fat32, and fat16. any idea what's up with that? | 06:37 |
| rrq | load additional modules | 06:41 |
| user | does the installer use xfsprogs? i don't have that either | 06:42 |
| user | but i'll try | 06:42 |
| user | xfs driver already loaded | 06:43 |
| rrq | did the installer have a "load additional" that you skipped? | 06:44 |
| user | yeah, that was it. defaulted to a cd drive and i simply ignored it | 06:46 |
| user | thanks | 06:47 |
| rwp | I haven't ever had any trouble creating xfs file systems at install time. Hmm... | 07:41 |
| user | anyone ever dealt with one of these Kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) | 09:37 |
| user | bios | 10:00 |
| user | 5 | 11:47 |
| djph | user: sounds like you've got a bad harddrive | 11:55 |
| Walex2 | user: bad "root" drive as "djph" says or wrong "root" filesystem specifier | 12:12 |
| user | it had windows 7 installed OEM, which worked fine | 13:05 |
| user | brand new SSD too. it's a rugged device in case youre wondering why it's got windows 7. i've run lilo and regenerated by initramfs about 100 times now with every option i could think of | 13:07 |
| user | error message is always no filesystems could not mount root, tried: and then nothing, it doesn't list any formats | 13:10 |
| user | above that it says list of all partions: and after it, also nothing | 13:10 |
| user | but i can chroot into the drive and it works fine | 13:11 |
| gnarface | you said it had windows 7 on it? did you zero out the boot sector or did you just try to create a new partition table over the windows install? | 13:15 |
| gnarface | user: ^ | 13:15 |
| user | i made a new partition table | 13:16 |
| gnarface | that might not have been sufficient | 13:16 |
| user | lilo works fine, just the kernel panics | 13:16 |
| gnarface | i ran into an issue once, where a windows 7 GPT partition table would not fully be erased when replaced with a msdos partition table | 13:17 |
| rrq | if its nvme disks you might need to add "nvme" into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and update-initramfs once more | 13:18 |
| gnarface | i can't remember if that was the same error, but it was invisible corruption to the msdos partition table and grub, but it did indeed boot and just fail to load linux | 13:18 |
| gnarface | basic recovery process: blank the first few megabytes of the disk then try again | 13:19 |
| user | in such a way, that the bootloader works but the kernel panics? | 13:19 |
| user | im pretty sure i used wipefs at least once, but i don't know if that'd do it | 13:19 |
| gnarface | theoretically possible. it can't not find the boot loader, but it can still pass the wrong identifier for the rootfs | 13:20 |
| gnarface | all it takes to create a kernel panic is if the kernel can't read the rootfs | 13:20 |
| gnarface | which could just be because it's looking in the wrong place | 13:21 |
| gnarface | if it's nvme then try the nvme thing | 13:22 |
| user | im gonna do that right now | 13:22 |
| user | hopefully it works | 13:22 |
| user | still broken | 13:50 |
| user | i wonder if using a gpt table and grub would magically fix everything | 13:54 |
| Hurgotron | How does Devuan name the eth interfaces? Is the name pinned to the MAC or somesuch? I remember there used to be some persistent-network-names udev rules, but probably only in Ubuntu, or that changed again. I lost track | 14:06 |
| fsmithred | Hurgotron, eudev uses the old names (eth0...) most of the time | 14:08 |
| fsmithred | for usb dongles it will use the mac address in the name | 14:08 |
| fsmithred | if you want eudev to use the new names, add net.ifnames=1 to the boot command | 14:08 |
| fsmithred | you might have /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules | 14:10 |
| fsmithred | I have it in beowulf but not in chimaera | 14:10 |
| Hurgotron | hmm, I don't have it on both my Beowulf installs | 14:11 |
| Hurgotron | would be interesting if that can be autogenerated somehow | 14:12 |
| gnarface | user: did you try zeroing the start of the disk with dd? | 14:44 |
| sedrosken | I'm still left scratching my head at the issue I'm having where, at system shutdown, the system times out bringing down the encrypted disks. It's not a real issue, I suppose, it just makes the process take longer, but I'd rather it not do that. I vaguely remember needing to sub in a new cryptsetup service file when I ran OpenRC a while back, could | 15:03 |
| sedrosken | runit need something similar? | 15:03 |
| sedrosken | I'm running an encrypted LVM setup -- two drives, a 256GB NVME boot SSD with an unencrypted ext2 boot partition, ESP, and the encrypted layer containing the logical volumes for swap and system root -- and a 2TB SATA SSD containing an encrypted layer which itself contains a logical volume for /home (done this way so I can expand on it later if I | 15:05 |
| sedrosken | need to) | 15:05 |
| fsmithred | sedrosken, are you running beowulf or chimaera? | 15:32 |
| sedrosken | Chimaera | 15:37 |
| fsmithred | hm, I don't have the patched version of cryptdisks-functions in chimaera. | 15:39 |
| fsmithred | I think I did not need it when I tested it, but I also think someone else said they ran into the problem. | 15:40 |
| sedrosken | Yeah, this is the same basic machine | 15:41 |
| sedrosken | If you'd link me to that again, I'd appreciate it. I'd just have to remember I have the patch installed | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | in beowulf, there's a package called cryptsetup-modified-functions, which replaces | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | lib/cryptsetup/cryptdisks-functions | 15:42 |
| sedrosken | is that available for chimaera? | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | but that file is very different in chimaera | 15:42 |
| sedrosken | oh | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | so you'd have to hack the fix in manually | 15:42 |
| sedrosken | ouch | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=18318#p18318 | 15:42 |
| sedrosken | which considering I have zero coding talents... | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | actually it wasn't bad doing it manually in ascii and beowulf | 15:42 |
| fsmithred | in fact, the easiest fix is to erase some of the timeout numbers like this: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?pid=16284#p16284 | 15:44 |
| sedrosken | huh -- seems it's capable of being fixed "properly" by remounting the initramfs which had no procedure in sysv but maybe it can be done with one of the alternatives? | 15:45 |
| sedrosken | I use LVM too though. in that post it mentions "For plain encrypted filesystems without lvm" | 15:46 |
| psionic | new distro name Crimea :> | 15:47 |
| psionic | russians linux is pretty lame this base-alt shit | 15:47 |
| psionic | this is waht their govt recommending to the people after microsoft getting rugpulled from there | 15:48 |
| psionic | its some debian derivate but apt is using .rpms :D | 15:48 |
| fsmithred | sedrosken, one of my posts shows which fix is for encrypted lvm and which is for encrypted without lvm. But I'm not seeing it. | 15:51 |
| fsmithred | I think the changes in _do_stop_callback() are for non-lvm and the other part around 'dmsetup mknodes' is for lvm. | 15:55 |
| zmoment | Hi, I'd like to try the Pantheon DE on my Chimaera system, but can't find instructions on how to do it. Is anyone running Pantheon? | 15:58 |
| fsmithred | sedrosken, make sure you have all of these: cryptsetup cryptsetup-bin cryptsetup-initramfs cryptsetup-run libcryptsetup12 udisks2 | 15:59 |
| gnarface | zmoment: doesn't look like there's any debian packages for it, you'll have to build something yourself | 16:04 |
| zmoment | thanks gnarface | 16:31 |
| jason1236 | helelo | 21:50 |
| jason1236 | how to debootstrap SID-devuan? | 21:50 |
| jason1236 | is there a SID to debootstrap for devuan (no systemd!!!!!!!) ? | 21:50 |
| nemo | fsmithred: ^^ | 22:06 |
| nemo | so... I added some basic iptable rules to /etc/rc.local | 22:07 |
| nemo | when I went to that machine today, the rules were gone | 22:08 |
| nemo | does anyone know of anything that might have cleared them? Even if I got confused as to reboots, they should have been restored on boot | 22:08 |
| jason1236 | example what is SID??? debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=debootstrap,wpasupplicant ???devuanSID??? . http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged | 22:08 |
| nemo | jason1236: fsmithred can problbly help you when he checks the channel next | 22:09 |
| rrq | jason1236: ceres | 22:14 |
| jason1236 | thx | 22:14 |
| jason1236 | will SID be always CERES? | 22:14 |
| jason1236 | is ceres the up to date stuff debian/devuan? | 22:14 |
| rrq | yes, "ceres" is merged "sid" | 22:15 |
| rrq | nemo: "the rules were gone" from the kernel? or from the file? or both? | 22:15 |
| jason1236 | will ceres in debootstrap script/ directory, always work to get the SID ? | 22:16 |
| fsmithred | back | 22:17 |
| rrq | jason1236: .. https://www.devuan.org/os/packages | 22:18 |
| fsmithred | jason1236 does SID stand for something or do you mean sid? | 22:18 |
| jason1236 | i mean SID, when I do SID, debootstrap i know that it is sid. I can do it in 5 years, it will be always SID. | 22:18 |
| jason1236 | i mean the last version (broken) | 22:18 |
| fsmithred | why SID is upper-case? | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | I'm confused. Are you just yelling? | 22:19 |
| jason1236 | sid <-- for readability. | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 22:19 |
| jason1236 | i can write sid in lower case. ok, seems you follow up. | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | you can do a debootstrap install of ceres, which is devuan unstable, which is 99% debian unstable (sid) | 22:19 |
| jason1236 | ln -s is done for "sid" so taht each debootstrap will fetch base from the last one (broken sid kid). | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | link to ceres, not sid | 22:20 |
| jason1236 | yeah ceres is a released | 22:20 |
| jason1236 | ceres is a name - codename | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | yes | 22:20 |
| jason1236 | sid is a ln like stable , unstable... testing | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | sid is also a codename | 22:21 |
| jason1236 | i need a "LN" symbolic link | 22:21 |
| jason1236 | not a codename | 22:21 |
| fsmithred | for daedalus? | 22:21 |
| nemo | rrq: iptables -L was empty | 22:21 |
| jason1236 | not a codename, but a link so that it works in 10 years ;) | 22:21 |
| fsmithred | I assume you're talking about the symlinks in debootstrap for the different releases | 22:21 |
| fsmithred | if so, ceres is already there. If you want daedalus, you probably need to make a symlink. | 22:22 |
| nemo | rrq: I added a cronjob to reload and log timestamp if it happens again | 22:23 |
| jason1236 | symlink yeap | 22:23 |
| nemo | rrq: maybe it's some WTFism of the vmware client or solarwinds agent or other such things I'm required to use | 22:24 |
| jason1236 | yeah but what is the "name" or script/ <-- file into debootstrap - that will get the last release? | 22:24 |
| jason1236 | do you have a name for the little kid - that break toys - already or ... likely not yet? | 22:24 |
| rrq | nemo: ok; maybe check /etc for something that does "iptables -F" | 22:25 |
| fsmithred | ceres | 22:25 |
| jason1236 | ceres is a codename. | 22:26 |
| fsmithred | debootstrap --arch amd64 ceres /mnt http://deb.devuan.org/merged | 22:26 |
| fsmithred | yes, ceres is a codename, and you should use it. | 22:26 |
| jason1236 | you cannot say what i should use. the problem is to deboostrap without dependencies. | 22:27 |
| rrq | jason1236: debootstrap has a single cofiguration file that applies to all its releases, it is named "ceres"; for debootstrap the other devuan codenames are links to that file | 22:27 |
| fsmithred | add -minbase | 22:27 |
| jason1236 | i wont modify your debootstrap package / script directory by hand to fix it, to get a up to date base. | 22:27 |
| jason1236 | debian has following: | 22:27 |
| jason1236 | stable testing and sid. | 22:28 |
| rrq | the name you give also has a "meaning" for the package sources | 22:28 |
| jason1236 | you may try to give a same symlink too. | 22:28 |
| fsmithred | ceres=sid | 22:28 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: today but not in 5 years. | 22:28 |
| fsmithred | but don't use sid in your sources or in your command. | 22:28 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: the debootstrap script will be outdated in 5 years on a given installed machine. | 22:28 |
| fsmithred | ceres=sid since 2014 and until the unix clock dies. | 22:28 |
| jason1236 | ok, i will test then over yeras. | 22:29 |
| jason1236 | do you have "stable" too? | 22:29 |
| jason1236 | example: debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=debootstrap,wpasupplicant stable . http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged | 22:30 |
| fsmithred | we have everything debian has except systemd | 22:30 |
| fsmithred | do not use stable/unstable/testing in your sourcesllist or in your command | 22:30 |
| fsmithred | USE CODENAMES TO AVOID PROBLEMS | 22:30 |
| jason1236 | so then if we type, we will get sysVinit ... i hope: " debootstrap --no-check-gpg --include=debootstrap,wpasupplicant stable . http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged " | 22:31 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: i cannot use codename, i install on antic machines. | 22:31 |
| fsmithred | why can't you use codenames? | 22:31 |
| jason1236 | i do antic museum PCs | 22:31 |
| fsmithred | I don't think antix has anything to do with pulling packages from our repos. | 22:31 |
| fsmithred | debootstrap does that, and it pulls them from where you tell it to pull them | 22:32 |
| fsmithred | from | 22:32 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: example: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/antic-pckit <-- antic planet | 22:32 |
| fsmithred | oh! | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | antique machines | 22:33 |
| jason1236 | old stuffs yeah, that should be in trash for years ;) | 22:33 |
| fsmithred | still, use codenames. If you use 'stable' or 'testing' it might be confusing because debian and devuan are not always in sync with releases. | 22:34 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: yeah sure i know | 22:34 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: you need too a stable or testing or sid | 22:34 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: mabye call the symlink: stable-devuan testing-devuan or sid-devuan | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | no | 22:34 |
| fsmithred | the testing directories are called testing | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | the stable directories are called stable | 22:35 |
| jason1236 | it is a mess | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | use the codenames | 22:35 |
| jason1236 | the debootstrap script (see package) is total mess. | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | if you want to know which codename is the current stable, you could ask here or check at devuan.org | 22:35 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: I will ... | 22:36 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: I hate systemd ;) | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | I've used debootstrap and it works fine. I've never felt the need to read the script. | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | but I have added symlinks when I wanted to install the testing suite and it wasn't yet in the devuanized debootstrap. | 22:36 |
| fsmithred | you're using devuan debootstrap? | 22:37 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: we dont work in same area. I use mostly older machines, netbsd, freebsd, ... and unix. I avoid linux | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | but we're talking about debootstrap install of devuan, aren't we? | 22:37 |
| jason1236 | yeah on partition number 3 is devuan. | 22:37 |
| jason1236 | 1.netbsd, 2. freebsd 3.devuan and 4.whatever bsd. | 22:37 |
| fsmithred | you're installing devuan or you're using devuan to debootstrap something else? | 22:38 |
| jason1236 | just debootstrap | 22:38 |
| jason1236 | i cannot use an installer ;) I prefer my own grub | 22:38 |
| fsmithred | what is the problem? | 22:38 |
| jason1236 | i have my grub compiled with pkgsrc. my custom grub is put by netbsd | 22:38 |
| jason1236 | see here: mconfig install grub-loc-wd0 <-- for instance: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/mconfig (source code). | 22:39 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: the problem is that grub does whatever it wants. I use my own things, mostly all from source. | 22:40 |
| * golinux longs for grub2 | 22:46 | |
| jason1236 | i usually have grub2 compiled with pkgsrc. it is best. linux lacks pkgsrc heavily. | 22:49 |
| fsmithred | what does that give you? | 22:51 |
| jason1236 | i can start my desktop running on BSD, i dont want to be dependent like you. you need others to package for you. me, not. | 22:52 |
| jason1236 | fsmithred: what will you do then, when debian will decide to put atrocity in their system? alike Wayland (easy example)? | 22:55 |
| golinux | jason1236: We won't go down without a fight . . . but that should be moved to #devuan-offtopic | 22:58 |
| jason1236 | yeah - it is okay, thank you for the infos about ceres. I will test it soon. Good evening, keep working on System V Init or OpenRC ! ;) that's cooler than systemd. have fun and best wishes. | 22:59 |
| golinux | jason1236: ceres = sid. It is not a "release" | 23:00 |
| jason1236 | golinux: thank you very much. | 23:01 |
| golinux | https://beta.devuan.org/os/releases | 23:02 |
| golinux | Oops . . . forgot to remove the "beta" | 23:02 |
| golinux | https://www.devuan.org/os/releases | 23:02 |
| blastwave | is the LXDE desktop offered in Devuan daedalus ? | 23:26 |
| blastwave | I only see LXQt which may be similar but not the same | 23:26 |
| golinux | https://devuan.org/get-devuan | 23:28 |
| golinux | Look at the CD iso descriptions | 23:28 |
| golinux | And this: | 23:29 |
| golinux | desktop (4 GB): Use this DVD if there is no network available and/or a need for multiple offline installations. The image contains several desktop choices and additional software options. LXQt and KDE are only available on DVD. | 23:29 |
| fsmithred | lxde is not in tasksel. I guess that needs a bug report. | 23:35 |
| fsmithred | blastwave, an easy way to do it - uncheck all but standard system utilities at the tasksel window. | 23:36 |
| fsmithred | when you reboot into the new system, apt install task-lxde-desktop | 23:36 |
| blastwave | wow ... after install I have /etc/network/interfaces setup for a static IP but I ended up with DHCP anyways ... wth ?? | 23:47 |
| fsmithred | network-manager getting in the way? | 23:48 |
| blastwave | do I have to purge out isc-dhcp-client and isc-dhcp-common to get a static ip ?? | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | no | 23:48 |
| fsmithred | I have those packages and I'm using static ip | 23:49 |
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