| brocashelm | when removing lightdm, apt wants to install sddm. how would one be able to prevent sddm from being installed? | 01:10 |
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| fsmithred | find out what wants a dm | 01:11 |
| fsmithred | aptitude why lightdm | 01:11 |
| fsmithred | or apt rdepends lightdm | 01:11 |
| brocashelm | could be a metapackage that needs a dm | 01:12 |
| brocashelm | in my case, this is what i got: i xfce4-session Recommends xscreensaver | light-locker | i3lock | 01:13 |
| brocashelm | p light-locker Depends lightdm | 01:13 |
| brocashelm | so it's most likely the light-locker | 01:14 |
| brocashelm | nvm, it's a task-*-desktop package | 01:15 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, I'm using lightdm without light-locker and the laptop sleeps and locks correctly when I close the lid. | 01:42 |
| fsmithred | xfce4-power-manager handles it | 01:42 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i was trying to figure out why someone wasn't able to remove lightdm without also installing sddm. he installed lxqt from netinstall, so maybe it was a metapackage? | 02:15 |
| fsmithred | yeah, most likely | 02:15 |
| fsmithred | I usually stay away from them. | 02:15 |
| brocashelm | same. i did suggest he try refracta instead and go from there | 02:16 |
| brocashelm | since he's coming from artix | 02:16 |
| brocashelm | and not really used to apt | 02:16 |
| fsmithred | if he wants lxqt, he should start with a minimal system and add stuff he wants. | 02:17 |
| fsmithred | He should make a package list before he re-does it, so he can find package names. | 02:17 |
| brocashelm | yeah, packages like lxqt-core would work better to avoid dependency breaks | 02:18 |
| fsmithred | a refracta iso is good to have around | 02:18 |
| brocashelm | i told him to come on here or on the forums if he needs any help, but that was really the only issue (which you could just disable the display manager through grub, update-grub, and reboot) | 02:18 |
| fsmithred | he might be able to remove task-lxqt-desktop | 02:19 |
| fsmithred | do apt remove task-blah | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | and then apt install whatever is on the autoremove list | 02:20 |
| brocashelm | i will tell him that. that's what i figured out myself when i wasn't too familiar with specific packages for lxqt and mate | 02:21 |
| hitlerwasright | hi guys, is there any pkg search site for devuan? where I can get list of all pkgs without installation? | 17:49 |
| hitlerwasright | guys? | 17:54 |
| gnarface | pkginfo.devuan.org | 17:56 |
| hitlerwasntright | thank you | 18:02 |
| hitlerdidnothing | can I mix debian and ubuntu's repo to the devuan? | 18:07 |
| hitlerdidnothing | what could get wrong if I add ubuntus repo for old legacy nvidia driver package? | 18:10 |
| brocashelm | what's the default network gui for lxqt? fsmithred? | 19:18 |
| fsmithred | brocashelm, I'm not sure. I thought it was connman, but I'm not finding it. | 19:25 |
| fsmithred | most of them depend or recommend a few. The default is the first one listed. | 19:26 |
| fsmithred | If you can find it. | 19:26 |
| fsmithred | there it is. lxqt recommends cmst | 19:28 |
| fsmithred | cmst | nm-tray | network-manager-gnome | 19:28 |
| fsmithred | or plasma-nm | 19:29 |
| brocashelm | yup, i figured it was going to be connman since it seems more common in qt-based distros | 19:32 |
| brocashelm | thanks | 19:32 |
| xisop | what usually happens at the devuan meetups? | 22:50 |
| xisop | ... and can anyone join? I'm a user of devuan but i'm very enthusiastic about the distro and would love to get involved any way i can | 22:52 |
| brocashelm | xisop: more info about the devuan meets are usually posted on #devuan-dev (or just ask golinux / fsmithred) | 23:00 |
| fsmithred | xisop, you can read past meeting notes here: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-dev.en.html | 23:12 |
| fsmithred | do you have any particular talents or interests? | 23:13 |
| xisop | fsmithred: brocashelm: thank you! i will check these things out | 23:42 |
| xisop | fsmithred: i do devops, nodejs, reactjs, i can do frontend design. i used to do php for nearly 10 years so i'm familiar with php7.3 and laravel framework. for hobby coding i write C++ and assembler. I can harden and administer a linux box | 23:43 |
| xisop | I can link to some frontend design work that I've done.. I'm fairly versatile.. currently my employer wants me focusing on nodejs backend development, so i havent done frontend work in a few months | 23:45 |
| xisop | the only way i've contributed to devuan was in donations. though i can do pretty much anything i set my mind to | 23:46 |
| golinux | Any python? | 23:46 |
| brocashelm | that's great. we need all the help we can get. i use ceres and like to help out with testing packages. i'm going to find other ways to help | 23:46 |
| xisop | unfortunately no, but i have no problem learning that language. i rather admire it since it was planned | 23:46 |
| golinux | wicd needs a port to python7 | 23:46 |
| brocashelm | ^^^ | 23:46 |
| xisop | okay, i wouldn't mind tackling that | 23:47 |
| golinux | xisop: I understand it is a rats nest | 23:47 |
| golinux | Andres Messer was starting to work on it but haven't heard anything in months . . . | 23:48 |
| xisop | is this a sort of "whenever it gets done" thing? do we have any deadlines that we'd like to hit? | 23:48 |
| brocashelm | i know runit needs to be fully implemented | 23:49 |
| brocashelm | since it still uses sysv scripts | 23:49 |
| golinux | Only when we are getting ready to release a new version of Devuan | 23:49 |
| xisop | oh, written in C? I know C fairly well | 23:49 |
| golinux | wicd is a higher priority | 23:50 |
| brocashelm | and we still got a good while until a new lts release | 23:50 |
| xisop | okay, wicd would take me a bit longer as i'd have to get acquainted with the language, but i'm fine working on that. should i switch this conversation to devuan-dev? | 23:51 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/gryrmln/wicd | 23:51 |
| golinux | That person started something too | 23:52 |
| brocashelm | yep, #devuan-dev (and #devuan-offtopic for anything not about devuan if that's of interest) | 23:52 |
| golinux | xisop: Sure might get some better feedback that on this channel | 23:52 |
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