libera/#devuan/ Saturday, 2022-03-26

apersonHello. How do I allow my main user to use sudo. There is no sudoers file anywhere and sudo is installed ?07:53
braddaperson: I think you add the user to the 'sudo' group07:54
ErRandirthere's a visudo command available for that. See man sudoers and man visudo08:48
Kingsysorry, can someone remind me why zzz isnt included in devuan? Also when I close my laptop lid and the machine sleeps. if I open it again I don't get my X back. it just shows me a black screen, all I can do is just turn it off hard. When I do that I can see devuan shutting down as it flips back to the TTY, so the OS WAS active I just couldnt use it. how can I fix this too?09:01
jyrihave you tried Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F7/8?11:57
jyriI had the same problem ages ago (before systemd...) so I don't remember any more how I fixed it :(12:02
apersonDoesn't that just switch to a different instance/run level ? My issue is that within the main X and in a terminal, I cannot use sudo for anything without logging in using su. Is that by design in devuan ?12:15
djphaperson: did you add your user to the 'sudo' group?12:21
apersonI thought i did, but then when I tried sudo, it still did not work. Groups username , shows sudo listed12:25
rrqsudo needs /etc/sudoers to know who's allowed what12:27
apersonSo sudo works using my user password, I was just able to chmod, but not with root password12:28
djphrrq: oh, yeah that too12:29
djphaperson: yes, you also need to configure /etc/sudoers, as rrq mentioned.  As I recall (as root) 'visudo'12:29
apersonIn /etc/ I only see sudoers.d and in that only a readme12:30
apersonNvm12:32
apersonI'm in the sudoers12:32
apersonIn nano12:32
apersonNow imnin visudo12:33
apersonGot it, thanks for the help folks.12:43
gourhello, tried opensuse (tumbleweed) for some time since it was my first distro back in 1999, but will go back to debian-based distro. for me there are actually only two options: debian or devuan and since I have to run few containerized apps (viber, zoom,..) i wonder what can i expect with flatpak/appimage under devuan?14:11
gourotherwise, i use xfce, few cli apps, ff...nothing fancy...14:11
gouri'd also like to try runit and wonder if there is work in improving its support on devuan?14:12
fsmithredgour, I know appimage works in devuan, and I'm pretty sure flatpak works. If you search the forum, you can find discussions about both.14:28
fsmithredthere is ongoing work on runit. Again, search forum for discussions. The runit maintainer sometimes posts there because we have several people using it and reporting their experiences.14:29
fsmithredIf you want to play with runit without installing anything, here's a live-iso I made. https://get.refracta.org/files/experimental/refracta_11_runit_test_amd64-20211121_0007.iso14:30
gourlast time i tried, i had problem with viber - always restarting its setup procedure and could not configure default sound device...i believe the latter should be solvable and maybe containerized can provide better experience14:30
fsmithredI have no experience with that stuff beyond once installing the Musescore appimage to check it out.14:31
gourfsmithred: i'll install devuan on my spare machine - old netbook and try to resolve those issues and not inastalling on main machine and then re-installing another distro odue to frustration 😄14:32
fsmithredsounds like a plan.14:32
* gour is preparing stick with the image15:12

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