libera/#devuan/ Monday, 2022-03-28

aesthetikxdoes anyone here have experience running elasticsearch on devuan? They have their own apt mirror and distribute a .deb, but presumably because it is expecting systemd (?) I end up with noting in /etc/init.d/, and am therefore unsure how to start it (as the elasticsearch user)00:18
rrqwhere's the .deb ?01:02
* rrq thought to take a look01:03
aesthetikxhttps://www.elastic.co/guide/en/elasticsearch/reference/current/deb.html01:08
aesthetikxhttps://artifacts.elastic.co/downloads/elasticsearch/elasticsearch-8.1.1-amd64.deb01:08
rrqthanks.. looking01:20
* rrq wow ... 1 GB of good stuff :)01:22
aesthetikxthe magical world of choosing to write a database in java01:24
golinuxDies it require systemd?01:25
golinuxDoes actually.01:25
rrqmmm appears to be just a database client.. in javascript .. no, doesn't require systemd but all instructions expects it01:28
golinuxSo a double whammy . . .01:28
rrqin fact they document a few extra hoops for "running with systemd"01:28
golinuxAnd this is just an advert so OT for this channel anyway . . .01:29
golinuxDoes anybody in this camp do anything with javascript?  I though it was a pariah . . .01:30
rrqah it's jar files = java rather01:31
aesthetikxyeah java not javascript01:31
golinuxGuilt by word association.  :D01:32
rrqstart script is /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/elasticsearch ... no man page or docs other than for the included jdk01:36
gnarfacei used to do all kinds of stuff with javascript for work01:37
gnarfacenot really by choice though, just because it was needed01:37
gnarface"needed"01:37
gnarfacei seem to recall having some other complaint about elasticsearch separate from the use of javascript and before systemd though01:40
rrqok, so /usr/share/elasticsearch/bin/ela* are the admin script and perhaps ..-cli is a fun one01:42
rrqscripts01:42
rrqaesthetikx: I'll leave it there.. you can browse those on your own :)01:44
jason1236hello10:29
jason1236mutt configuration doees not work. I need reconnect.10:29
jason1236this configuration works to connect -  https://termbin.com/kkvu (working) - while the one on devuan does not work. it seems that devuan does not reconnect.10:30
jason1236sorry cool10:37
jason1236it works with SID !10:37
jason1236I did: debootstrap  --no-check-gpg    --include=debootstrap,wpasupplicant  ceres .   http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged   ; mkdir usr/src10:37
lunarioso i am trying to install gtk4 on devuan, but it is impossible due to dependencies, right?22:52
xisopwhat would be a good tool to send notifications to my desktop? just like the notifications that i get from firefox that appear outside the window. i currently have i3 installed22:52
lunarioxisop: dmenu22:54
fsmithredlunario, libgtk-4-1 is in ceres and daedalus.22:55
lunariofsmithred: ah good to know, maybe i should switch to testing then :)22:56
lunariothanks22:56
xisopi just used notify-send instead22:57
fsmithredpeople running daedalus or ceres say it's working well. I have a daedalus install and it's still getting 50-100 updates every couple of days.22:58
fsmithred"every few days"22:58
onefangxisop: dunst is also worth checking out.23:08
xisopnoted23:10
brocashelmi'm on ceres and the only "problem" is when packages get held back (because of dependency faults). even then, that's not so common anymore23:35
brocashelmyes, notify-send is useful23:35
brocashelmyou can incorporate it into your scripts23:35
brocashelmmy ceres systems are frankendevuaned with dmo, oibaf's graphics-drivers, winehq, and obs repos; and all stable and dependencies met23:38

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