| gast0n | hi, can we use wicd in chimaera? or what is the meaning of the package that appears in the repos? | 01:19 |
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| gnarface | hmm, something got removed it hink | 01:26 |
| gnarface | i think* | 01:26 |
| gnarface | could have been wicd | 01:26 |
| gnarface | hmm, seems like it is present still in chimaera though | 01:27 |
| gnarface | maybe it was removed from the next release | 01:27 |
| golinux | gaston: https://files.devuan.org/devuan_chimaera/Release_notes.txt | 01:36 |
| golinux | wicd is removed until someone ports it to the current python version. | 01:37 |
| gast0n | ok, i'm on the devs mailing list and today i saw a notice that the version of wicd had changed in chimaera and for a moment i got excited :D | 01:43 |
| golinux | gast0n: Perhaps someone has made some progress | 02:04 |
| fsmithred | no, it's a transitional package so that when you upgrade, you get something to replace wicd. | 02:06 |
| fsmithred | I got excited too, and I was about to install it until I noticed that none of the other parts are there. | 02:07 |
| trivalto | hi all | 04:52 |
| trivalto | any chance someone has installed bareos on devuan ... and dealt with the sysv init scripts ?? | 04:53 |
| Guest73 | hello. could someone running latest stable devuan with latest apt upgrades run 'ss -tu' and let me know if they also get these lines on the output please? https://paste.debian.net/plainh/d92b74db | 05:10 |
| unclouded | Guest73: Not me. I only have :ssh and :nfs ports | 05:26 |
| gnarface | Guest73: :ipp is probably cups (print server), i don't recognize the others | 05:30 |
| gnarface | Guest73: oh, sorry those are all cups probably | 05:30 |
| gnarface | Guest73: note it's only to and from localhost, try running "/etc/init.d/cups stop" as root, see if they go away | 05:31 |
| Guest73 | gnarface the [::1]:56728 [::1]:ipp type entries persist | 05:36 |
| gnarface | how about saned? do you have sane running? i forget but it might use ipp too | 05:40 |
| unclouded | `ss -tnlp` shows you which process opened those ports | 05:40 |
| unclouded | or `ss -tup` is closer to your original command | 05:41 |
| Guest73 | it appears it's cups but somehow it persists. I'll update-rc.d disable and remove it and reboot | 05:43 |
| Guest73 | thank you both. brb | 05:43 |
| Guest61 | gnarface & unclouded: update-rc.d remove nuking cups and rebooted worked! thanks! :) | 05:48 |
| Guest61 | rebooting* | 05:49 |
| Guest61 | the entries appeared some of these last few weeks after some upgrades and surprised me. glad it's just cups | 05:50 |
| * Guest61 waves | 05:53 | |
| Kingsy | whcih iso contains non free firmware? | 11:33 |
| Kingsy | hrm nevermind it just seemed to work, perhaps there was a fallback | 12:44 |
| Kingsy | however I am having issues getting it to use EFI mode. any special considerations on this? | 12:44 |
| hiyori | https://dpaste.com/APTC3WNVK | 13:17 |
| fsmithred | Kingsy, all the isos have non-free firmware. | 14:23 |
| fsmithred | Which iso are you using and what efi issues are you having? | 14:24 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: I think I fixed it.. I just reinstalled using the same netinstall iso, and it just "worked".. haha | 15:06 |
| fsmithred | sometimes that happens for no apparent reason | 15:09 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: ah right, so its a known thing? | 15:50 |
| Kingsy | good to know | 15:50 |
| fsmithred | I'm not sure exactly what problem you had with efi, but sometimes grub does unexpected things. | 15:51 |
| fsmithred | (keeping in mind that computers only do what we tell them to do, not what we want them to do.) | 15:51 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: one other thing, how do you install slack? If I download the .deb from slack.com dpkg says -> libappindicator3-1 is missing and is not installable | 15:54 |
| fsmithred | configuration management program for lazy admins? | 15:55 |
| fsmithred | it's in the repo | 15:55 |
| Kingsy | erm no. its a workplace chatting application for communication of teams -> slack.com | 15:56 |
| fsmithred | chimaera has libappindicator3-0.1-cil | 15:57 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: I see this -> https://bpa.st/JQ7A | 15:58 |
| fsmithred | are you running chimaera? | 16:00 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: yes | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | did you try 'apt -f install' ? | 16:01 |
| fsmithred | (--fix-broken) | 16:02 |
| Kingsy | yeah it just does -> Removing slack-desktop (4.24.0) ... | 16:02 |
| fsmithred | maybe let it remove that, then install the listed deps. The versions in chimaera are new enough. Then try installing slack again. | 16:03 |
| Kingsy | you mean just install libappindicator3-0.1-cil ? | 16:04 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 16:04 |
| fsmithred | and anything from that list that doesn't get pulled in with it. | 16:04 |
| Kingsy | no problem | 16:04 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: could I ask one more thing.. so the main reason I am using devuan is for apt, and a better experience with sound (puloseuadio or whatever) - are there any special steps I need to take to setup sound on devuan? | 16:05 |
| fsmithred | apt remove pulseaudio? | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | only partially kidding | 16:06 |
| Kingsy | lol | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | it should work without any setup | 16:06 |
| Kingsy | well this is why I am asking. I am just so sick of weird intermittent sound issues. | 16:06 |
| fsmithred | did you install the full desktop from the installer iso? | 16:07 |
| Kingsy | no, just "basic system utilities" I install X and awesomewm myself | 16:07 |
| fsmithred | if you don't need pulseaudio, get rid of it. I recently installed it on my laptop so that I can easily switch between onbaord sound and usb headset | 16:07 |
| fsmithred | ok, then don't install PA if you don't need it. | 16:08 |
| Kingsy | I do need it, Teams (which is need *pukes*) needs it | 16:08 |
| fsmithred | so you want pulseaudio and pavucontrol | 16:08 |
| Kingsy | so what packages do I need for a basic stable setup? alsa, pulseaudio, pavucontrol ? thats it? | 16:08 |
| fsmithred | yeah, alsa-utils I think | 16:09 |
| Kingsy | does it needa reboot? | 16:09 |
| fsmithred | yeah, there is no longer alsa-base package | 16:09 |
| fsmithred | not sure about reboot. Try it and let us know. | 16:09 |
| Kingsy | yeah it just worked without a reboot after unmuting in alsamixer | 16:10 |
| fsmithred | cool | 16:10 |
| Kingsy | slack desktop stills fails with the same error even after installing libappindicator3-0.1-cil | 16:11 |
| fsmithred | yeah, well it wants 3-1 not 3-0* | 16:11 |
| fsmithred | maybe some creative symlinking could fix/fool it into working | 16:11 |
| Kingsy | any way to just insetall ? I jhavent got a clue what to symlink | 16:12 |
| Kingsy | 3.1 *** | 16:12 |
| fsmithred | oh! I may have found the answer. "Now, open up the file “./unpack/DEBIAN/control” and remove libappindicator3-1 and replace it with libayatana-appindicator3-1." | 16:14 |
| fsmithred | i.e. open the package, change that one dependency to a package that exists, re-pack the .deb | 16:15 |
| fsmithred | it's actually pretty easy to do. | 16:15 |
| fsmithred | https://www.linuxcapable.com/how-to-install-slack-on-debian-11-bullseye/ | 16:16 |
| Kingsy | oooo interesting. | 16:18 |
| Kingsy | how do you remove a package with all deps? I just want to get rid of libappindicator3-0.1-cil | 16:18 |
| fsmithred | apt remove <package> | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | apt autoremove | 16:20 |
| Kingsy | ah ok | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | second one gets rid of the deps | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | or... | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | aptitude remove <package> | 16:20 |
| fsmithred | and it takes the deps with it | 16:20 |
| Kingsy | if I get this -> W: GPG error: https://packages.microsoft.com/repos/ms-teams stable InRelease: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY EB3E94ADBE1229CF <- can I add the key so I don't see the warning? | 16:21 |
| fsmithred | when are you getting that error? what command? | 16:21 |
| Kingsy | apt update | 16:21 |
| Kingsy | I installed a .deb from teams which has added it I assume | 16:22 |
| fsmithred | did you add a repo to your sources? | 16:22 |
| fsmithred | look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ | 16:22 |
| fsmithred | maybe the deb added a file there | 16:22 |
| Kingsy | yeah it did -> mteams.list | 16:22 |
| fsmithred | so yeah, if you want to install stuff from that repo, either add the key or just download the needed packages and install manually. (and get that file out of the way) | 16:23 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: yeah, how do I add the key? sorry I should have been more specific | 16:23 |
| fsmithred | I don't know what else they might provide, but I would pin that repo to a low priority so it didn't install anything without my explicit orders | 16:24 |
| fsmithred | apt-key add ... (I think) | 16:24 |
| fsmithred | or if they have a key package, download and install with dpkg -i | 16:24 |
| Kingsy | ok got it. thanks | 16:26 |
| Kingsy | so that guide you linked me, wants me to update the slack deps to libayatana-appindicator3-1 <- is this reasonable? | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I think so | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | well, in terms of how the package system works, it makes sense | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | I have no idea about the code in the app | 16:27 |
| fsmithred | and it's the first time I've seen the "linuxcapable" website, so I don't know how good they are. | 16:28 |
| Kingsy | seemed to work!! | 16:28 |
| Kingsy | awesome! | 16:29 |
| fsmithred | https://stackoverflow.com/questions/65978703/missing-libappindicator3-1-installing-slack | 16:29 |
| fsmithred | stackoverflow says same thing | 16:29 |
| fsmithred | they're usually right | 16:29 |
| Kingsy | this is great. thanks so much! | 16:29 |
| fsmithred | yw | 16:29 |
| Kingsy | hrm I need to find a good config for awesomewm now. Curious, what DE / WM you use? | 16:30 |
| fsmithred | usually xfce, sometime openbox with lxpanel | 16:30 |
| Kingsy | ah cool | 16:31 |
| fsmithred | you can probably find some info about using i3 at the forum. I think a couple of the derivatives use it. | 16:31 |
| fsmithred | oh, you said awesome. Where did I get i3? | 16:31 |
| Kingsy | hehe! no idea. | 16:31 |
| Kingsy | but yeah. awesome for me. I love dwm but I HATE configuration with NC | 16:32 |
| Kingsy | C ** | 16:32 |
| fsmithred | Luke! Listen to the force! | 16:32 |
| fsmithred | https://github.com/awesomeWM/awesome/blob/master/docs/07-my-first-awesome.md | 16:40 |
| fsmithred | Kingsy, ^^^ | 16:40 |
| lunario | hi, i have the following line in my fstab which i use to have an external media player mount via usb with a script, via uuid. but whenever the line is activated, i get an fsck error on boot (the device is not mounted at that point). when i comment it out, the error does not show up on boot. what could be the reason? | 16:43 |
| lunario | UUID=39B8-1D02 /home/no/media/walkman/ vfat noauto,defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 16:44 |
| djph | lunario: dont think fat plays nice with fsck | 16:47 |
| sadoon_albader[m | Yeah you probably need to trim it off before you boil the fsck | 16:48 |
| lunario | djph: that is not the issue though, i am quite sure. i had the same problem some years ago and had to change some of the options (noauto, defaults, errors=remount-ro or another one...) i just can't figure out which one and unfortunately the old installation where it worked is gone | 16:48 |
| djph | well, noauto stops automount, and i believe the auto fsck at mount | 16:48 |
| djph | or you could set the autofsck (last "1") to 0 | 16:49 |
| Kingsy | fsmithred: thanks again | 16:51 |
| lunario | i will try the latter, djph | 16:52 |
| Kasreyn | any idea why "cfv" tool was in ascii and jessie but can't be found in chimaera? https://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=cfv&x=submit | 16:56 |
| fsmithred | Kasreyn, maybe the last changelog entry is a hint: Thu, 10 May 2012 | 17:02 |
| Kingsy | perhaps I'll just start with awesome-copycats and go from there./j debian | 20:40 |
| Kingsy | oops | 20:40 |
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