systemdlete | rwp: That is essentially what I am doing now. I created a script with the same name in my ~/bin and set the variables etc to launch the program. This way, I can run the program the same from the menu, command line, desktop link, etc | 04:43 |
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systemdlete | thank you for your help | 04:43 |
systemdlete | (as always) | 04:43 |
systemdlete | I had been trying to avoid such clumsy means, as I usually try to stick with "standard" stuff (of course, who knows what that means now, or ever) | 04:43 |
systemdlete | But I have yet another question! (I don't seem to run out of them). I would like to use a network config tool that supports multiple "profiles"--let me explain. | 04:44 |
systemdlete | I have a testbox which I use for many different things, including some script development, experimenting with packages, new distro release, new hardware, and so forth. | 04:45 |
systemdlete | But each one of these may require a slightly different networking configuration. Now, connman seems to be able to do some of what I need, but it is designed to distinguish by network hardware available, rather than the demands of the networking that I need. | 04:46 |
systemdlete | I seem to recall, years ago, that there was a tool that did this on linux, but I might be mistaken. | 04:47 |
systemdlete | It was popular with laptops, where one might connect on a hard line at work, wifi at the coffee shop, a different hard line at home (or maybe wifi who knows), etc. | 04:47 |
systemdlete | By simply selecting the profile desired (pulldown menu or maybe a param passed to a cli program) you could get the network configured the way you want. | 04:48 |
gnarface | wifi-radar? | 04:48 |
systemdlete | I've tried mucking around with the service config files for connman, but it only seems to go so far. I think in the future they might be able to do what I want, but atm, it is rather lacking in functionality. | 04:49 |
systemdlete | gnarface; Does it support hard lines also? | 04:49 |
gnarface | i forget | 04:49 |
gnarface | last seen in beowulf anyway, no idea why it got pulled | 04:49 |
systemdlete | ok I'll look at it, thanks | 04:49 |
systemdlete | oh | 04:49 |
systemdlete | this will be for chimaera | 04:49 |
gnarface | iirc it was primarily for wifi | 04:49 |
systemdlete | sure, just like wicd | 04:50 |
gnarface | but, what it had was a self-contained database of configurations that didn't clobber existing system configuration files, and was keyed by the wifi SSIDs detected | 04:50 |
gnarface | rather than local network device | 04:51 |
gnarface | so it sounds like what you're thinking of | 04:51 |
gnarface | whether you could misuse the interface to work for wired connections too, i don't know | 04:51 |
systemdlete | heheheh. Yeah, I just searched for it, and it sounds precisely like what I need. And it *is* in beowulf repos, but not in chimaera repos. | 04:51 |
systemdlete | I swear there was a tool years ago that supported multiple network configs | 04:52 |
systemdlete | it wasn't called wicd or wifi-radar, something else | 04:53 |
systemdlete | maybe early RH releases | 04:53 |
systemdlete | or | 04:54 |
systemdlete | maybe it was in very old version of mandrake or mageia | 04:54 |
systemdlete | last time I used those for any serious work was 15 years ago | 04:54 |
systemdlete | I gave up on them as they slowly, steadily destroyed those otherwise fine distros... but this is OT now. | 04:54 |
systemdlete | hmmmm. nmcli might work for me | 05:02 |
systemdlete | going back to networkmanager may be a bit... anachronistic? But it looks like it would do what I am looking for. | 05:17 |
systemdlete | Well, I will look into that later. Meanwhile, SUCCESS! I've got refracta/devuan chimaera working on my testbox. And I am thrilled--really, really thrilled--to report that my USB 3 ethernet dongle is hitting speeds as high as 460mbps on my comcast 400 connection. | 05:20 |
systemdlete | I had to upgrade to 5.16 backport, and it appears to work well enough. | 05:22 |
u-amarsh04 | thanks for reporting back on your USB 3 success, systemdlete | 05:27 |
systemdlete | yw. I really appreciate all the hard work and the friendly, constructive assistance I get here! | 05:56 |
systemdlete | u-amarsh: So the solution you gave me worked extremely well. thank you so much for clueing me in on that | 05:57 |
systemdlete | Now a new headache. It seems that the apt-keys mechanism has changed... it hollers at me that keys have to be gpg now | 06:00 |
systemdlete | There are some pages on the web indicating what one MIGHT do, but nothing that seems to be authoritative (unless I managed to miss that) | 06:01 |
u-amarsh04 | systemdlete The way I searched was helped by the fact that I build kernels from Linus Torvalds' git source. From the source directory I could type "git log" then from in there use "/" to search and looked for the model of USB 3 controller | 06:01 |
systemdlete | good work, u-amarsh04 | 06:01 |
u-amarsh04 | one could google the name of the USB 3 controller but that might not find the latest kernel source update dealing with it | 06:02 |
systemdlete | I was able to install this package (bareos) on a different chimaera installation months ago. That was pure devuan. But here, I used refracta; hopefully things are not too different | 06:02 |
systemdlete | I was just getting good at use apt-key too... | 06:03 |
systemdlete | :( | 06:03 |
systemdlete | s/use/using/ | 06:04 |
u-amarsh04 | I've been using aptitude for a long time, running Debian and then Devuan unstable | 06:04 |
systemdlete | I don't know. For some reason, bareos doesn't seem to be in the repos, at least not the latest version | 06:04 |
u-amarsh04 | I like to identify bugs in new releases early and report them so that they get fixed for everyone | 06:04 |
systemdlete | Yeah, I was kind of late getting my systems upgraded. I'm just catching up now for chimaera (most of mine are beowulf). Of course, before long, I'll have to upgrade yet again to daedelus | 06:06 |
u-amarsh04 | I like the rolling nature of unstable and manually keep packages at older versions if needed | 06:07 |
systemdlete | otoh, I do sort of like waiting until the worst things are sorted out. otooh, I tend to install a test system with the upgrade to start playing with it a bit before I finally upgrade my other systems. Saves me trouble in the long run. | 06:07 |
systemdlete | My preference is for stable, always has been. | 06:07 |
u-amarsh04 | only have the 2 pc's here, enough for rescues (sysrescuecd and gparted cd also help) | 06:08 |
systemdlete | In the years I've been dealing with Linux, I have found that stable releases tend to eliminate a lot of unknowns. | 06:08 |
systemdlete | I've been through rescue a few times... not much fun really. | 06:08 |
systemdlete | but this is getting a bit OT | 06:08 |
systemdlete | I really need some help with those gpg keys | 06:09 |
systemdlete | ok, got it. Just had to use a different key server | 06:15 |
Kitty | what's the devuan way to rename network devices? My machine has 12 ethernet devices, which seem to be named in a very random order... | 12:12 |
Kitty | it's persistent across boots... | 12:12 |
Kitty | but I would like them to be consistent | 12:12 |
furrymcgee | udev? | 12:20 |
systemdlete | you can set rules for naming them in /etc/udev/rules.d | 12:25 |
systemdlete | it's a little bit tricky, but not too hard | 12:25 |
ShorTie | add 'net.ifnames=0' to boot command line maybe ?? | 12:25 |
systemdlete | http://paste.debian.net/1237819/ is an example of how I created a rules file to distinguish between two UPS's | 12:27 |
fsmithred | Kitty, you can add net.ifnames=1 to use the "predictable" interface names. | 12:48 |
fsmithred | add to the boot command | 12:48 |
Kitty | I did that | 12:48 |
Kitty | so now I have eth0 to eth11. | 12:48 |
fsmithred | oh | 12:48 |
fsmithred | no | 12:48 |
fsmithred | that's wrong | 12:48 |
Kitty | except they go in a weird order. eth2, eth4, eth10, eth7, eth8 | 12:49 |
fsmithred | you should have enpblah... | 12:49 |
fsmithred | net.ifnames=1 with eudev should give you the new style names | 12:49 |
Kitty | I had eth0-11 before I set it | 12:49 |
fsmithred | ah, ok | 12:49 |
Kitty | do I need to install eudev ? | 12:49 |
fsmithred | if you're using devuan, you already did that | 12:49 |
fsmithred | I don't think it's possible to run without that (unless you use vdev or mdev) | 12:50 |
Kitty | aah ok | 12:50 |
furrymcgee | does eudev still require adduser package? | 14:29 |
Guest9720 | hello. I am trying to install the nvidia drivers from the backports on devuan 4 and encountering this error: https://paste.debian.net/plainh/18ce934b | 16:12 |
Guest9720 | any ideas how to deal with it? thank you | 16:12 |
fsmithred | Guest9720, that issue comes up a lot. I don't know the standard fix for it, but adding --no-install-recommends will let you install without the -persistenced package. | 16:23 |
Guest9720 | fsmithred thank you, that worked | 16:30 |
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