| brocashelm | just one repository for testing or unstable is needed. security fixes and such will all be pooled there first (unstable then testing) | 01:12 |
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| rwp | brocashelm, When running Unstable it is actually useful and typical to also include Testing in sources.list because then when there is Unstable breakage one can simply install the previous version that is still available immediately from Testing. | 01:51 |
| brocashelm | i keep other repositories commented out unless i need a specific package or build outside of unstable. anytime apt-listbugs reports bugs, i can just dodge that upgrade and wait for a fixed build | 01:57 |
| rwp | I update Unstable every day. And sometimes I get caught betwixt and between having installed the broken package and then finding the breakage. Which requires manual attention to back out. | 01:59 |
| systemdlete | I was just making sure I had not made a serious faux-pas, that's all. The sources.list file comes with the security spec, out of the box, so to speak. So I modified it to make it work, it did, you have confirmed I did the right thing. Thank you. | 03:01 |
| systemdlete | gnarface, rwp: Do our lsusb -v outputs on the various platforms and users correspond? | 03:33 |
| systemdlete | (I think they do, but not sure) | 03:33 |
| gnarface | systemdlete: no, not completely i don't think... i had one specific test on a beowulf with a 4.19.0-20 kernel with no errors on root or as a regular user, but rwp reported errors with that combination, so i still suspected a hardware component to the problem | 03:37 |
| systemdlete | I also report errors on that combo | 03:37 |
| systemdlete | (same kernel) | 03:37 |
| gnarface | i didn't test in VMs but rwp reported some errors in VMs too, which might be a clue | 03:38 |
| systemdlete | Yes, I saw there were errors in the VMs as well. | 03:38 |
| systemdlete | I haven't tried daedalus in a VM yet though. | 03:38 |
| systemdlete | And I've only tried daedalus on my testbox, which has a different board than my other PC | 03:39 |
| gnarface | hmm, running ceres and just noticed "dpkg-reconfigure dash" no longer gives me an option to switch back to bash as the default shell... in fact it no longer gives me any options. can anyone verify? | 08:15 |
| gnarface | maybe already fixed though, not sure | 08:23 |
| gnarface | dpkg-reconfigure used to work though, wondering if anyone can tell me if it still does | 08:25 |
| golinux | gnarface: Perhaps it is a new "feature" | 08:32 |
| gnarface | yea that's what i'm worried about | 08:33 |
| brocashelm | gnarface: i ran that command and got no output | 09:02 |
| gnarface | yea, that's the same for me | 10:26 |
| gnarface | no output | 10:27 |
| fyrfaras | Hello :) I installed Devuan today and I was wondering: Is there a list of software which will be installed with the "Console Productivity" option enabled? | 15:09 |
| furrymcgee | its package task-console-productivity | 15:25 |
| fyrfaras | furrymcgee: thank you very much :3 | 15:46 |
| Jjp137 | gnarface, seems that the change to dash was intended: https://salsa.debian.org/debian/dash/-/commit/c322a1c9fc6be11d7eb4439407c0a398aba8bbb7 | 20:38 |
| gnarface | Jjp137: thanks for the info | 23:06 |
| gnarface | i wonder if it's just gonna keep replacing my symlink now | 23:07 |
| gnarface | or if they're gonna remove bash from the distro | 23:07 |
| golinux | gnarface: Every new release is like opening a box of chocolates . . . you never know what you're going to get. | 23:10 |
| brocashelm | i found that thread "is wayland the new systemd?" at the dev1 galaxy forums interesting and highly plausible that it will be of a major problem for a lot of downstream distros, should debian and the like fully adopt it and drop support for xorg altogether | 23:27 |
| brocashelm | https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=4986 | 23:28 |
| used____ | golinux: box of chocolate?! North Korean chocs probably... made 40 years ago, every piece a stone. | 23:29 |
| golinux | brocashelm: Take it to OT please | 23:44 |
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