| aitor | yes, clearlooks in one of the best themes | 00:00 |
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| aitor | the new version of simple-netaid is base on openwrt's software bus, and its design is much clearer now | 00:00 |
| aitor | i added the systray icon and a double paned terminal (based on gnome's libvte), and the panel below shows the routing table netlink events | 00:03 |
| aitor | i've just built new images of gnuinos using this new version, and i'm going to test them right now | 00:05 |
| fsmithred | cool | 00:05 |
| fsmithred | aitor, do you have a link to packages? | 00:05 |
| golinux | Why is this not available in Devuan repos? | 00:05 |
| aitor | they are in the repo, here you are the list: | 00:06 |
| golinux | Maybe that's what Daedalus needs? | 00:06 |
| aitor | libubox0, libubus0, ubus, libjson-c5, libnetaid0, snetaid, simple-netaid-cdk, simple-netaid-vte3 | 00:06 |
| aitor | golinux: shortly i'll build it for daedalus | 00:07 |
| golinux | *\o/* | 00:07 |
| aitor | simple-netaid-vte3 is the Gtk+ container for simple-netaid-cdk, a very simple terminal with the systray | 00:08 |
| aitor | fsmithred, youll need to add yourself to the netaid group to get things working | 00:11 |
| fsmithred | thanks | 00:12 |
| fsmithred | are any of those libraries in the devuan repos? | 00:12 |
| aitor | nope | 00:13 |
| aitor | only libjson | 00:13 |
| aitor | but they are very lightweight, ubus builds in a few seconds | 00:14 |
| aitor | oh! and also libvte-2.91, available in devuan | 00:17 |
| aitor | i called the container vte3 because libvte-2.91 uses Gtk3, but now i'm working on a Gtk2 version based on libvte-0.0 | 00:18 |
| aitor | 00:20 here, time to bed | 00:19 |
| aitor | take care, bye | 00:21 |
| systemdlete60 | I searched for simple-netaid, but not much about it out there. What is this? | 01:52 |
| golinux | It was a netwrok connector based on Ed Barx's simple-netaid https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/search/20380101.000000.00000000@ml:dng,simple-netaid.en.html | 01:54 |
| systemdlete60 | I am not familiar with it, sorry. What does it do? | 01:55 |
| golinux | systemdlete: ^^^ lots of history there | 01:55 |
| golinux | Connects you to the net. | 01:55 |
| systemdlete60 | In 20 words or so? | 01:55 |
| systemdlete60 | so, like, nm or wicd? | 01:55 |
| golinux | Yes. | 01:55 |
| systemdlete60 | but maybe actually.... works as one might expect such to do? | 01:55 |
| systemdlete60 | I might try it. | 01:56 |
| golinux | There is lots to read at the link I provided | 01:56 |
| golinux | Goes back to 2016 - https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20160208.103243.b332c0e8.en.html | 01:58 |
| golinux | Actually first iteration was netman. | 01:59 |
| golinux | It's gone through a lot since then | 01:59 |
| golinux | Original files were lost when we moved from gitlab | 02:00 |
| plasma41 | golinux: rrq may still have backups of the repos from the old gitlab server. I seem to recall having him getting me the backup of one of the old repos, blinkdog's pad formatter, IIRC. | 02:02 |
| systemdlete60 | I vaguely recall something with a name like netman-- was that ever included in other distros? | 02:02 |
| brocashelm | just switched from intel to amd. what's a good way to get accurate temp info for each cpu core with sensors? tried sudo sensors-detect and that unlocked some areas, but it's still not the same as with intel where you could easily see the temps of each core | 02:04 |
| brocashelm | and also ways i can unlock its potential with cpufreq/cpupower | 02:07 |
| fsmithred | I have netman-gui_0.1.1-1_amd64.deb and netman-backend same version | 02:11 |
| fsmithred | isn't there a kernel module for amd temps? | 02:12 |
| golinux | plasma41: Thanks for reminding me. aitor has taken what was netman in a different direction. We talked about it earlier today. | 02:14 |
| golinux | @16:45 our time. | 02:15 |
| systemdlete | golinux, fsmithred: What I really want is the ability to define multiple network configurations and select one of them either by a desktop tool or a command line tool. | 02:15 |
| fsmithred | in /etc/network/interfaces? | 02:15 |
| golinux | Well . . . aitor went off to sleep. It might be on the gnuinos site. | 02:16 |
| plasma41 | golinux: I'll check it out. | 02:16 |
| golinux | <aitor> a new release of simple-netaid is available in packages.gnuinos.org | 02:16 |
| systemdlete | When I say "configuration" I mean I might have 3 different internet devices, and for Config A I might want to use 2 of them, one connecting to the net and another to my LAN. Then Config B might use the same devices, but now one of the devices connects to a router, and another to wifi and another to LAN. etc. | 02:16 |
| * golinux is convinced that systemdlete is a masochist | 02:17 | |
| systemdlete | fsmithred: How can I do this with /etc/network/interfaces? | 02:17 |
| fsmithred | you might need multiple config files and a way to switch them that brings the networks down and up again | 02:17 |
| * golinux needs to take out the compost | 02:17 | |
| systemdlete | right | 02:17 |
| fsmithred | I'm not good enough with networking to do what you want | 02:18 |
| systemdlete | Well, I am sort of hoping that this netman/simple-netaid biz might be able to do this. | 02:18 |
| fsmithred | I know there's a way you can configure the same interface for different networks in one file by giving them unique names | 02:18 |
| systemdlete | golinux: I have a test box which I use for multiple networking configs. Sometimes, I connect the host directly to the LAN, but sometimes I have a different setup. Currently, it is not smooth to switch from one to the next. | 02:19 |
| systemdlete | fsmithred, aha! | 02:19 |
| fsmithred | easiest way to check out the latest version of simple-netaid is to download the latest gnuinos isos (if they're up yet) | 02:20 |
| fsmithred | systemdlete, it's explained in the debian handbook. You might need an older version. Not sure. | 02:20 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: i commented out blacklist microcode in /etc/modprobe.d and i'm still limited to wahtever is in k10temp-pci (tctl and tccd1) | 02:20 |
| brocashelm | i installed from this repo and nothing changed: https://github.com/leogx9r/ryzen_smu | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | oh, new hardware? | 02:21 |
| brocashelm | using amd ryzen 5 3600 | 02:21 |
| fsmithred | no clue here | 02:21 |
| brocashelm | switched out of intel i7-3770 | 02:21 |
| systemdlete | guinos... ok, thanks. | 02:21 |
| systemdlete | guinos doesn't have any... uh... y'know, "infection" that I need to worry about right? | 02:22 |
| fsmithred | systemdlete, I just scrolled up and aitor said he's testing the new isos now. | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | and hell no! gnuinos is completely libre | 02:23 |
| brocashelm | fsmithred: my first build, so i'm just figuring things out. had some sound problems until i replaced the cmos, did a flash bios, and then added options snd-hda-intel index=1,0 to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | and in libre kernel | 02:23 |
| fsmithred | "as in" | 02:23 |
| systemdlete | kool, thanks fsmithred | 02:24 |
| fsmithred | brb | 02:24 |
| systemdlete | I just skimmed (I mean really quickly) man interfaces. I don't see anything about unique names (you mean like, labels?) | 02:24 |
| golinux | gnuinos (sp) | 02:24 |
| systemdlete | how the heck would anyone even try to pronounce that? | 02:25 |
| brocashelm | gnu (is) in (your) os | 02:25 |
| systemdlete | GWIN-ose? Or GOO-in-nose? | 02:25 |
| golinux | He explained it to me at the conference gnu in os | 02:26 |
| systemdlete | GNU-in-ose? | 02:26 |
| golinux | gnueenos | 02:26 |
| systemdlete | ucccch | 02:26 |
| systemdlete | I am going to write an OS and call it "ENUF!" | 02:27 |
| * golinux won't hold her breath | 02:27 | |
| brocashelm | tell us all about it in ot | 02:27 |
| systemdlete | First release I propose to call "already" | 02:27 |
| systemdlete | sure | 02:28 |
| fsmithred | systemdlete, I can't find the old docs I remember, but this search should give you what you need: https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=debian%20multiple%20ip%20addresses%20on%20one%20interface | 02:40 |
| rrq | systemdlete: I think fsmithred referred to the point that the configuration label (that comes after "iface") need not be the same as the interface name | 03:02 |
| rrq | youd do "ifup eth0=foo" to use the "foo" configuration for eth0 | 03:02 |
| fsmithred | yeah, like eth0=home | 03:02 |
| rrq | in "man interfaces" it talks about "physical" name versus "logical" name | 03:03 |
| rrq | the wpa_supplicant system has a wpa_roam option to utilize that also for wifi | 03:04 |
| systemdlete | When I read that part, I got the impression that was simply to change the name of the interface. | 03:59 |
| systemdlete | Maybe I read it wrong. | 03:59 |
| systemdlete | (I *was* skimming, after all) | 03:59 |
| systemdlete | that link returns a lot of info about establishing multiple IP addresses | 04:05 |
| fsmithred | think of it as an alias that calls up a specific configuration | 04:05 |
| systemdlete | So I would need a script or something to update the rename to whichever "profile" I wanted to use, something like that? | 04:09 |
| systemdlete | I could source an include file near the top | 04:09 |
| systemdlete | which I could modify with a script I think | 04:10 |
| systemdlete | hmmm. | 04:10 |
| systemdlete | this could work ok | 04:10 |
| fsmithred | ifup eth0=name | 04:10 |
| fsmithred | you could make panel buttons, you could make a script that uses yad to make a window with buttons or items in a list to click on | 04:10 |
| systemdlete | I mean, I could edit the file, but that is a bit clumsy. Besides, this way, I can do some error checking | 04:10 |
| systemdlete | fsmithred, yes. thank you | 04:11 |
| fsmithred | if you know other gui programming you could make a better clicky interface | 04:11 |
| systemdlete | eh. | 04:11 |
| systemdlete | I think command line will suffice. | 04:11 |
| systemdlete | In some cases, I might not have a gui up and running anyway. | 04:11 |
| fsmithred | but yad with shell script is pretty powerful and easy | 04:11 |
| systemdlete | Is that what you used for refractainstall? | 04:12 |
| fsmithred | then just use ifupdown | 04:12 |
| fsmithred | yeah | 04:12 |
| systemdlete | :) | 04:12 |
| fsmithred | was zenity at first, but yad is better and has fewer dependencies | 04:12 |
| systemdlete | I think I have enough clues now. | 04:13 |
| aitor | hi, I forgot to mention other dependencies like libcdk5nc6 and libsigc++-2.0 | 15:11 |
| aitor | i've just uploaded the images of chimaera with the new version of simple-netaid: | 15:11 |
| aitor | https://www.gnuinos.org/mirror/chimaera/live | 15:11 |
| fsmithred | downloading it now | 15:14 |
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