| systemdlete | In xfce, I have settings so that mouse wheel should not switch desktops. But it does. | 01:12 |
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| brocashelm | ^ that is also a bug for me | 01:13 |
| systemdlete | yet, it is strange. This only is happening on my host, not in a VM running chimaera xfce also. | 01:15 |
| systemdlete | Couldn't we at least have bugs that are a bit consistent? LOL | 01:15 |
| brocashelm | i'm running 4.16 on ceres. possibly a bug in xfwm4-tweaks-settings that ignores the unchecked exception of "use the mouse wheel on the desktop to switch workspaces" | 01:18 |
| brocashelm | i'm kinda used to it at this point and just avoid scrolling there | 01:18 |
| brocashelm | scroll_workspaces in xfce4-settings-editor/xfwm4 is the culprit being ignored | 01:22 |
| systemdlete | Interesting. When I uncheck it in those tweaks, the problem goes away. It looks like xfce and its tweaks need to get together sometime and talk | 01:23 |
| systemdlete | maybe sit down and have coffee and talk about how they can work together | 01:23 |
| systemdlete | I just know I will forget about this when daedalus is released. | 01:24 |
| systemdlete | And I'll have to navigate this all over again. (Unless they fix it before then) | 01:24 |
| systemdlete | Overall though, chimaera as host system has been working well. | 01:26 |
| systemdlete | I haven't tried backports kernel yet--I want to see if my usb3.0 ports work as designed. They should, since they work fine on my other PC I already upgraded to chimaera with the backport kernel. | 01:27 |
| systemdlete | Then maybe I can start enjoying the 400mbps download speeds comcast claims I am supposed to get. Currently they can't even give me consistent 300 down with usb 2.0 | 01:29 |
| Soltis | gnarface: The Mac has an Intel Haswell-ULT rev 09 | 01:44 |
| Soltis | gnarface: The other one is also Intel - I think the new Iris video controller. | 01:44 |
| Soltis | gnarface: The video issue is VERY secondary compared to the keyboard thing, though. | 01:49 |
| gnarface | Soltis: well what's significant about that is that they'll be using the exact same driver in linux. the keyboard thing i can't diagnose though... can you explain more about how you can't be sure it's happening on the system console or not? how are you testing exactly? | 02:55 |
| gnarface | Soltis: are you sure you're not testing unicode characters? | 02:56 |
| gnarface | Soltis: also, you mentioned a couple programs it doesn't work in... does it work right in any of them? | 02:56 |
| Soltis | gnarface: No, I _thought_ it was working in a few places, but now I'm pretty certain it's failing everywhere. | 03:47 |
| Soltis | gnarface: I did switch over to one of the other terminals and the keymap was still wrong - setxkbmap -query shows evdev/macbook78/us/dvorak in an X terminal emulator, btw. | 03:50 |
| debdog | just a thought. can you downgrade the kernel to determine a regression there? | 03:54 |
| debdog | Soltis: ^ | 03:54 |
| gnarface | is that something that would even be a kernel issue? | 03:55 |
| gnarface | hmmm | 03:55 |
| gnarface | i guess it would have to be if it's also happening at the system console | 03:55 |
| debdog | IDK | 03:55 |
| debdog | kernel, userspace | 03:55 |
| debdog | somewhere | 03:55 |
| gnarface | my only idea was maybe the desktop was overriding it (i've had that problem with enlightenment before though i haven't tested dvorak) | 03:55 |
| debdog | right wich DE or WM is involved | 03:56 |
| debdog | ? | 03:56 |
| debdog | oops, kbd-failure :P | 03:56 |
| gnarface | debdog: XFCE, i think | 04:59 |
| brocashelm | gnarface: do you know if there is a fix for the xfce bug systemdlete and i mentioned a while ago? even if you unchecked scroll_workspaces in xfce4-settings-editor/xfwm4, you could switch workspaces with the mouse wheel | 05:38 |
| gnarface | brocashelm: sorry no, i don't really use it, it just gets talked about alot around here because it's the popular choice | 05:42 |
| brocashelm | np. it doesn't really bother me, but i could never figure out a workaround | 05:45 |
| gnarface | i assume restarting X after unchecking it doesn't change anything? | 05:46 |
| Soltis | debdog: Not easily; I'm also having trouble getting the wireless to work and it has no ethernet port. | 05:51 |
| gnarface | wifi support isn't great in general, but lots of the current hardware that is supported needs firmware packages from non-free to work | 05:53 |
| gnarface | (some of them will work in unencrypted mode without the firmware, but this usually just adds to the confusion) | 05:54 |
| Soltis | gnarface: Yeah, I'm still working that one out on my own so far. It's a BCM4360 - the 43a0 chipset. Just not familiar with linux wireless so it's slow going. | 06:24 |
| Soltis | gnarface: I should note I already grabbed the firmware from the firmware-b43-installer package - had to do the install manually. | 06:36 |
| Soltis | ... along with a couple other Broadcom packages that supposedly add support for that chipset | 06:37 |
| systemdlete | So ntp does not get installed by default? | 17:42 |
| systemdlete | Does chimaera have some other way of syncing time to ntp? | 17:43 |
| rwp | None of those get installed by default. Different people have different preferences. So you have to choose one yourself. | 17:56 |
| rwp | I use and recommend ntp. | 17:56 |
| rwp | In the last week or so Debian has decided to migrate from ntp to ntpsec, a fork of ntp. | 17:57 |
| rwp | I followed that migration on Ceres. It was a little rough because of the way things were forked. Not a clean migration. | 17:58 |
| rwp | Summary: In Chimaera I recommend ntp and in Daedalus and Ceres ntpsec. | 17:59 |
| * Xenguy just installed chrony, not knowing any better, and it seems to do the job without any post install configuration ... | 19:01 | |
| Soltis | gnarface: Okay, this is interesting. I rebooted the laptop last night and left it sitting overnight - now the key map is correct. | 19:27 |
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