| unixbsd | how to install skype? | 21:11 |
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| unixbsd | Preparing to unpack skypeforlinux-64.deb ... | 21:11 |
| unixbsd | Unpacking skypeforlinux (8.83.0.408) ... | 21:11 |
| unixbsd | dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of skypeforlinux: | 21:11 |
| unixbsd | skypeforlinux depends on libgbm1 (>= 17.1.0~rc2); however: | 21:11 |
| unixbsd | Version of libgbm1:amd64 on system is 13.0.6-1+b2. | 21:11 |
| djph | unixbsd: sounds like you need a newer devuan release | 21:12 |
| unixbsd | can you fix it on ascii? | 21:13 |
| djph | no | 21:13 |
| unixbsd | it was working before | 21:13 |
| djph | ascii (old-oldstable) is 13.0.6 | 21:14 |
| djph | er oldstable / corresponding to debian old-oldstable | 21:14 |
| djph | ... | 21:14 |
| djph | you'd need minimally beowulf (Buster) -- has 18.3 | 21:14 |
| djph | *18.3.6 | 21:15 |
| djph | oh, maybe backports would work, seems that's got 18.2.2 | 21:15 |
| unixbsd | it was really working | 21:16 |
| djph | until Microsoft changed their dependencies... | 21:16 |
| unixbsd | it seems that you broke the source list. I made a list of package to have it and i can tell you which package you need into your pckage list. | 21:16 |
| djph | what are you talking about? | 21:16 |
| djph | "I" broke nothing | 21:16 |
| djph | "you" are trying to install a package that's no longer supportable on basic ascii | 21:17 |
| unixbsd | ok, let's check... i install the tarball. | 21:17 |
| djph | Which has a dependency on libgbm1 version 17.1.0 or better | 21:18 |
| djph | which is not available in base ascii (Debian Stretch) | 21:19 |
| rwp | If it was working and upgrading the skype.deb broke it then clearly it is MS that broke it. | 21:21 |
| djph | so either (a) get backports (which is apparently 18.2.x) or move to beowulf (which is 18.3.6) | 21:21 |
| djph | rwp: obviously :) | 21:21 |
| rwp | You could return to the previous skype.deb which was the working version. | 21:21 |
| djph | assuming they haven't done the "we're breaking skype in general for old versions" | 21:21 |
| rwp | Right. But the problem of dependencies means that if one starts upgrading one part, everything is connected, and so everything needs to be upgraded. | 21:22 |
| djph | yep | 21:23 |
| djph | good thing there's -backports (or, oldstable) | 21:23 |
| djph | I mean, it's kind of pointless to complain that old-oldstable doesn't work anymore... | 21:24 |
| rwp | I have personally made a lot of use of chroots over the years as a lightweight container to run old or new versions of things otherwise incompatible with the hosting system. | 21:27 |
| unixbsd | djph: ok, tarball ready, I will give you a list of packages very soon. | 21:35 |
| djph | tarball of what now? | 21:36 |
| unixbsd | the skype + devuan (working) dpkg list is at : www.termbin.com/jtmn4 | 21:38 |
| unixbsd | thge tarball with skype + devuan fully woorking is at: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/linux-devuan-voip/-/raw/master/v1/linuxvoip.squashfs (so call devuan voip). | 21:38 |
| rwp | unixbsd, What would anyone here be expected to do with that list? | 21:39 |
| unixbsd | it is called documentation. this process allows dissimetation of knowledgeable materials. | 21:39 |
| rwp | Sure. Sounds good. | 21:40 |
| djph | ... so you have a "working" skype version 8.65 | 21:40 |
| djph | the *deb package from Microsoft (downloaded just now) is 8.83 | 21:42 |
| unixbsd | I guess it is likely mirrored on some sites for linux. | 21:42 |
| djph | ... it's almost like a newer version of skype would have different requirements... *SHOCKING* | 21:43 |
| unixbsd | still it works, looks like. the voip skype devuan seems ok and working. (hell of using microsoft) | 21:43 |
| djph | unixbsd: ... so what's your point? | 21:45 |
| unixbsd | i will mirror that deb skype version 8.65, so it is. | 21:45 |
| djph | ... why would you mirror an outdated version? | 21:45 |
| unixbsd | so that people can use devuan ascii. | 21:47 |
| djph | but people _can_ use old-oldstable | 21:47 |
| djph | they just need to add backports to get the right version ... | 21:47 |
| djph | that being said, old-oldstable is probably going away soon as deadalus moves to stable ... | 21:48 |
| unixbsd | skype is into backports? | 21:49 |
| djph | no | 21:49 |
| djph | but an appropriately new version of the dependency is. | 21:50 |
| djph | .. it's like you don't even read ... | 21:50 |
| unixbsd | man, the only single mirror on web: http://mirror.cs.uchicago.edu/skype/pool/main/s/skypeforlinux/ | 21:51 |
| djph | *sigh* | 21:52 |
| djph | ... hm ... do I risk derping up my laptop with deadalus? ... | 21:52 |
| unixbsd | this is way the image squashfs is cool. it can work 10 year later. | 21:52 |
| djph | "can" | 21:52 |
| djph | ... but for a very limited notion of "work" -- a 10 year old /etc/certs isn't gonna get you very far today | 21:53 |
| djph | */etc/ca-certificates rather | 21:54 |
| golinux | Sad isn't it that the machine tells us what to do and we jump . . . Planned obsolesce is big business and keeps us running in place. Sorry for the OT | 21:55 |
| unixbsd | ah yeah, certs sucks in linux. bsd is better for certs. | 21:56 |
| djph | golinux: yeah, we should go back to the days of SSL1.0 and object to cert expiration dates ... | 21:57 |
| unixbsd | on BSD, the certs arent any kind of issue. see freebsd. | 21:57 |
| golinux | Let's take it to OT. | 21:57 |
| unixbsd | if I recall "links-2" has a got its own ssl/cert/... | 22:03 |
| unixbsd | btw, will devuan move to wayland (soon or later) ? (no xorg) | 22:17 |
| unixbsd | it works. skype installed. | 22:21 |
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