| used____ | Hmm lwn.net shows updates for ghostscript ffmpeg and others for Debian on 02 May, but I think I did not see them roll in here on Beowulf. | 20:14 |
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| used____ | ref: https://lwn.net/Articles/893440/ | 20:14 |
| used____ | Maybe not relevant to this release. | 20:15 |
| used____ | gs here is 9.27 | 20:15 |
| Xenguy_ | used____, Runnig Beowulf here, and haven't seen those updates either | 20:16 |
| Xenguy_ | *Running | 20:16 |
| used____ | ffmpeg version 4.1.9-0+deb10u1 | 20:16 |
| used____ | right, the ffmpeg is the fixed version | 20:17 |
| used____ | gs 9.26a is the fixed one, not clear if it also affected 9.27 | 20:18 |
| used____ | libarchive (3.3.3-4+deb10u1) is on the system, 3.2.2-2+deb9u3 is fixed. | 20:20 |
| used____ | Hmm so nothing broken here. | 20:20 |
| used____ | openscad is quite old on Beowulf, but is also a "non standard" RC release not mentioned on https://openscad.org/news.html -- specifically it is 2019.01-RC2 ... | 20:25 |
| used____ | Locating a current version number on that site is a tail chasing exercise the dog would love, but I do not. | 20:27 |
| systemdlete | OK. I admit I am baffled by git. I have had a (very) working clone of my repository (on my "githost") and made some changes (ie, commit and push) just a few days ago without incident. | 20:27 |
| systemdlete | Today, I tried to push a change and got errors. | 20:27 |
| systemdlete | I have NOT touched the thing in several days, so I am not sure what went wrong. | 20:28 |
| systemdlete | If I get on my "githost" (where the repo lives) and look at the zlib files, they are intact. | 20:28 |
| systemdlete | The error I am getting depends on what I am trying. On the githost, trying to clone the repo, I get "warning: remote HEAD refers to nonexistent ref, unable to checkout." | 20:29 |
| systemdlete | git branches -a shows nothing. | 20:29 |
| systemdlete | The HEAD file inside the .git directory (the repo) says "ref: refs/heads/master" | 20:31 |
| systemdlete | I have not deleted any branches. In fact, so far, I really haven't created any new branches (I know there is a default, but I have not tooled with it) | 20:32 |
| used____ | systemdlete: sorry, can't help, all I know about git is the shell commands mentioned in https://xkcd.com/1296/ https://xkcd.com/1597/ | 20:32 |
| used____ | systemdlete: BUT you could /join #github and be taught another 10 shell commands to memorize, I guess... | 20:33 |
| systemdlete | used____, precisely! I have used several version control systems and never ran into bizarre error messages | 20:33 |
| systemdlete | but yet, used____ , the world seems to be in love with this thing | 20:34 |
| used____ | Well ci and co were enough for me. I stick to diff-rcN-.tgz | 20:34 |
| used____ | systemdlete: the same kind of world which loves systemd. Careful. | 20:34 |
| systemdlete | ask people, what was wrong with CVS and they laugh at you | 20:34 |
| systemdlete | (good point) | 20:34 |
| used____ | Yes. | 20:34 |
| systemdlete | The biggest problem with CVS was not with CVS, but with programmers who ignored those <<<< ==== and >>>> lines and deleted them because their code did not compile. | 20:35 |
| systemdlete | and clobbered each others work. It was hilarious. But it wasn't a bug or a true issue with CVS. | 20:35 |
| systemdlete | I mean, do we really have to remind people that if it is possible on a project to have 2 or more people tearing up the same source file that there is this possibility of a conflict upon checkin? | 20:36 |
| used____ | patch -p1 seems to handle diff-rcN just great. ALL my patches are diff-rcN's to be applied with patch -p1, since at least 2008 | 20:36 |
| used____ | systemdlete: yes, we do need to remind, with a complex software which no-one understands, and, therefore, everyone loves and recommends. | 20:37 |
| systemdlete | and if the issue is that sometimes the main repo is not available, so comes this need to push and pull, then there is this version of cvs called DCVS which has that capability | 20:37 |
| used____ | Game psychology 101: offer the player the satisfaction of apparently solving a complex situation to keep him interested and satisfied. | 20:38 |
| systemdlete | used____, I don't think CVS was a "complex software" | 20:38 |
| used____ | This is about git, not cvs | 20:38 |
| systemdlete | my reference was to CVS, but I get your point | 20:38 |
| used____ | cvs and rcs worked for 3 decades before someone (who was not Poettering, for a change), came up with the 15th standard to rule them all. | 20:39 |
| used____ | 4 decades even I think. | 20:39 |
| systemdlete | Yes. RCS has been around since about the 80s I think | 20:39 |
| used____ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concurrent_Versions_System 1986 | 20:39 |
| systemdlete | there you go | 20:39 |
| systemdlete | but... but... | 20:40 |
| systemdlete | it's not the newest thing | 20:40 |
| used____ | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revision_Control_System 1982 | 20:40 |
| systemdlete | I need the new smart phone 2023 already | 20:40 |
| systemdlete | please don't make me wait | 20:40 |
| used____ | We need to start applying "need to know". Any features not needed must not be known and therefore not implemented. | 20:40 |
| systemdlete | Let me write software based on a PhD dissertation to replace what everyone has been using for ages. | 20:40 |
| used____ | Let's take this to -offtopic | 20:40 |
| systemdlete | I need my repo back... | 20:41 |
| systemdlete | I am thinking about using the xkcd approach with mine | 20:41 |
| used____ | systemdlete: Sadly, git is Linus's love child. I interpret this as, he spent 3-4 years working on git instead of the kernel. Grr. | 20:41 |
| systemdlete | Not entirely true. He was making changes to the kernel at the behest of one certain person. | 20:42 |
| used____ | systemdlete: I linked those cartoons as a joke but I literally have a text file with tested git commands I use, and that's it. Does not work? Wipe and recreate. | 20:42 |
| systemdlete | I totally get it. | 20:42 |
| systemdlete | Computer Science needs to be renamed Rocket Science. | 20:43 |
| used____ | Also, projects I "fork" from github, I get the .zip snapshot... | 20:43 |
| systemdlete | probably safe thing to do | 20:43 |
| systemdlete | trouble is, I can't even clone my repo anymore. | 20:43 |
| used____ | I am not the only one, apparently. f-droid.org does this too, with hundreds of Android apps. | 20:44 |
| systemdlete | It only copies the .git sub dirs, not the actual files. | 20:44 |
| used____ | systemdlete: do join #github and ask, I'm on there now. | 20:44 |
| used____ | >> #offtopic please, golinux will hate us | 20:44 |
| used____ | bummer vmlinux *-20 on beowulf lost / removed v4l2loopback.ko | 21:02 |
| EmanuelLoos[m] | Devuan Daedalus is stuck loading initramfs for me. I migrated from PureOS byzantinium (rolling release, essentially Debian Bookworm. I tried to fix it using `arch-chroot`, but it seems like `apt` creates a corrupt setup no matter which version of the Linux kernel I install from any related repo. Anyone got any ideas? | 21:17 |
| EmanuelLoos[m] | I'm using OpenRC as my init system. | 21:19 |
| joerg | systemdlete: used____ : https://rawgit.com/pastjean/git-cheat-sheet/master/git-cheat-sheet.svg https://github.com/pastjean/git-cheat-sheet | 21:23 |
| joerg | https://www.startpage.com/do/metasearch.pl?query=git-cheat-sheet https://education.github.com/git-cheat-sheet-education.pdf | 21:26 |
| used____ | joerg: cheatsheet in very small font is not fair ;) | 21:32 |
| joerg | the pdf is better | 21:35 |
| used____ | The pdf is 2 pages. Thus not literally a /sheet/ ;) | 21:35 |
| used____ | Thanks for the links. | 21:36 |
| joerg | it's still not the skill in a pill, but it helps me sometimes, I also don't really understand git | 21:36 |
| used____ | ;) welcome to the club | 21:36 |
| fluffywolf | I totally do not understand git. I'm glad I'm not the only one. :) | 21:36 |
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