libera/#devuan/ Tuesday, 2022-05-10

unixbsdon ascii, amd64, packages list if broken.14:35
unixbsdi mentioned that xfce4 was broken, can you fix package list it?14:35
unixbsdxfce setttings vs something is broekn.14:35
djphunixbsd: Devuan Ascii is "archived"14:43
djphoops, no, that's Jessie.  Ascii is old-oldstable though ...14:44
JorilWhat do you mean by "broken"?14:44
unixbsdi mentioned last time that xfce4 cannot be installed .14:45
unixbsdit is still unfixed so far.14:45
unixbsd xfce4-settings conflicts with something ...14:46
djphwell, that's not vague at all14:47
JorilLet's see...14:50
JorilThe following packages have unmet dependencies:14:50
Joril xfce4-settings : Depends: libupower-glib3 (>= 0.99.0) but it is not installable14:50
JorilMaybe this is relevant: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=18314:50
JorilAnd according to https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/bannedpackages.txt libupower-glib3 is a banned package in Ascii14:52
unixbsdthen, how to install xfce4 withow to h apinstall xfce4 with apt-get install xfce4 ????t-get ?15:15
djphstab in the dark -- use Beowulf or Chimaera15:16
djphassuming, of course, that the xfce4-* dependencies were unbanned15:17
unixbsdi need ascii15:20
djphthen you don't get xfce4-whatever, because one or more dependencies are banned15:22
unixbsdwith apt-get how to install it then ?15:33
gnarfaceyou can't, without either also installing systemd or patching it to remove the systemd dependency15:37
rrqunixbsd: one option might be to create an "equivs" package for libupower-glib3 just to satisfy the dependency.. not functionality15:45
fsmithredI don't currently have an ascii install to check, but I'm sure I had xfce-settings15:48
fsmithredmaybe check the ascii desktop-live iso to see what's installed15:48
JorilWhat about installing libupower-glib3 from Debian Stretch? https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libupower-glib3 doesn't show any "suspicious" dep15:49
unixbsdfsmithred: if you have amd64 you can test it with debootstrap16:44
unixbsdfsmithred:   mkdir /ASCII ; cd ASCII ;  wget -c --no-check-certificate   "https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/devuan-live/-/raw/main/v1/ascii/amd64/DEVUAN.tar.gz" ; tar xvpfz ... and chroot .. apt-get instlal xfce416:45
unixbsdii  xfce4-session                          4.12.1-3+devuan1     (INSTALLED)17:10
unixbsdii  xfce4-settings                         4.12.1-1   (INSTALLED)17:11
unixbsdwhat is the problem then ? how to install it XFCE4?17:11
unixbsd   but in your package you have:  xfce4 : Depends: xfce4-settings (>= 4.12.0) but it is not going to be installed17:13
unixbsd     Depends: xfce4-session (>= 4.12.0) but it is not going to be installed17:13
unixbsd  E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.17:13
unixbsd You are doomed ::) Install debian ;)17:13
unixbsd  OK17:21
unixbsdplease find the fix: https://gitlab.com/openbsd98324/xfce4-devuan17:21
furrymcgeedebootstrap?17:29
unixbsdthe package list if broken17:29
unixbsdhow to copy the pkg list t(worikingI)) to a debiootstrap ?17:29
unixbsd in /var/cahce ?17:30
furrymcgeethere are some tools for apt from cache17:31
unixbsdi would copy the pkg list from a working one, put into debootstrapped rootfs and avoid aptg-et update17:31
unixbsdwhere is stored the pkg list (cahce) ?17:33
unixbsd  /var/lib/dpkg   <-- which file has the pkg list (working one)?17:35
furrymcgeestatus?17:37
unixbsd704k bites17:39
unixbsdit is too small for that17:39
furrymcgeestrace tells you what files are used in the process17:42
unixbsdthis is my working pkg list.t:  WORKING#   https://termbin.com/0vucj17:46
unixbsd  is it possible to rebuidl a pkg package.list with the https://termbin.com/0vucj content ?17:46
furrymcgeeyes, they are trying to have something reproducible17:57
lunariois there a way to install firefox instead of firefox-esr via devuan's package manager?17:58
furrymcgeein debian sid https://wiki.debian.org/Firefox18:04
furrymcgeefor devuan the unstable release is ceres18:06
lunarioalright, thanks18:09

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