| systemdlete | what is the hexchat irc "fu" to start a private convo channel? | 03:59 |
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| systemdlete | I know there are several ways, but what is the most common/easiest? | 04:00 |
| gnarface | /msg [user] | 04:04 |
| gnarface | from a channel they're also in | 04:04 |
| gnarface | you won't see it show up in your interface unless they reply | 04:05 |
| fluffywolf | most clients should support /query to start a dedicated conversation with another nick. | 04:05 |
| systemdlete | ok, query. Thanks!!! | 04:06 |
| systemdlete | (I'm using hexchat, btw) | 04:06 |
| systemdlete | (but I also use libera web chat sometimes also) | 04:06 |
| systemdlete | I'm running into a strange situation with one of my usb-eth adapters. Every so often, it will stop working, yet "ip addr" or "ip link" shows it is still "UP." I am using this adapter to connect my smart TV to the Internet. When it is working, it is fine, no delays or anything odd. But every so often, the connection kind of breaks, with no sign of it in the system logs, even the kern.log. | 04:30 |
| systemdlete | This adapter used to work fine a few months back, so I am not sure what is up. I've tried setting the interface down and back up; sometimes that restores the connection, but most times not. | 04:30 |
| systemdlete | I find the ONLY thing that is sure-fire is to pull the adapter out of the USB port and re-insert it into the same port. And I've tried several different ports on the same PC with the same problem. | 04:31 |
| systemdlete | It is very intermittent, and the frequency varies--today, I have had 3 incidents, a few minutes apart, whereas most days, I see this maybe once or twice a day. | 04:32 |
| systemdlete | (I've been watching a lot of youtube the last few days, fairly consistently) | 04:32 |
| systemdlete | I'm going to try cleaning the adapter with some alcohol to see if maybe it is just some metal particles interfering with the connection. | 04:33 |
| systemdlete | Oh, I also tried the usbreset tool, but it did not work for me. | 04:38 |
| gnarface | maybe try to see if you can trigger the hotplug event from the console without actually unplugging it | 05:02 |
| gnarface | i forget how but there should be some way to do that | 05:03 |
| rwp | systemdlete, That's really strange. I have used those USB ethernet adaptors on many systems for years and they have surprisingly always been solid. | 05:28 |
| rwp | systemdlete, (USB storage on the other hand, not so solid. Always have problems if using those. But USB ethernet has been shockingly good and trouble free.) | 05:28 |
| rwp | Which makes me think that perhaps something is actually failing within your USB adaptor. Do you have a second one you could try? Or at least use a different USB port? | 05:29 |
| gnarface | could be dirty power somewhere in the setup too | 05:34 |
| gnarface | or a failing power supply | 05:34 |
| gnarface | or a failing usb port | 05:34 |
| gnarface | rare fringe behavior, but possible | 05:35 |
| systemdlete2 | gnarface: I have two UPSs, so I doubt dirty power is the problem (Unless the PS is failing, idk) | 05:40 |
| systemdlete2 | as I mentioned, I tried several different ports, so I doubt it is the specific port(s) | 05:41 |
| systemdlete2 | rwp: No, I am down to my last usb-eth adapters. They've all been failing on me recently; some the link/act leds are no longer working (but the units themselvs are) | 05:41 |
| systemdlete2 | and they are all busy atm. | 05:42 |
| systemdlete2 | I have some new ones on order. | 05:42 |
| systemdlete2 | Actually, those did come, but they were not what I ordered! Idiots sent me cheap knockoffs that weren't even USB3 | 05:42 |
| systemdlete2 | No need to go further with these people; I will no longer order from them. | 05:42 |
| systemdlete2 | they did not even contact me to let me know they did not have what I ordered in stock. | 05:43 |
| systemdlete2 | anyway, long story short, I don't have a means atm to test these. I might be able to swap a couple, but that requires some work because I have mapped the specfic devices in some cases and those will need updates. | 05:43 |
| systemdlete2 | I am also concerned that by moving things around, it may create yet more problems. One thing I have observed about USB is they are a bit tricky in some instances. | 05:44 |
| rwp | Other ideas to try... Try a different ethernet cable? Try a different port on the network switch on the other end? | 05:54 |
| rwp | I have had consumer but name brand network switches flake out on me before. Then changed switches and things magically started working. (shrug) no other ideas. | 05:56 |
| gnarface | eh, yea it's probably just failure of the actual network device though if it's so old the leds are wearing out | 07:19 |
| gnarface | that's happened to some switches on me, though i can't be sure it wasn't their power supplies failing | 07:20 |
| gnarface | symptoms were similar... 10+ years after the leds on the highest-traffic ports started going dim they'd randomly just freeze up and stop passing traffic for no apparent reason | 07:20 |
| gnarface | hotplugging the power would bring them back up for a few months at a time | 07:21 |
| gnarface | eventually i got fed up of wondering about it and replaced them | 07:21 |
| rwp | Honestly I have never seen an LED in an electronics device burn out. But I have seen LEDs in light bulbs fail. A lot. And have seen exterior LED lights corroded to death and fail. | 08:18 |
| gnarface | i actually have seen them dim from age | 09:12 |
| gnarface | age and wear, specifically; the ones that weren't blinking as much didn't dim as much | 09:13 |
| adhoc | relatively new LEDs that are in poorly designed circuits fail open from too much current. | 09:27 |
| adhoc | they choose the cheapest LEDs and over drive them to get more lumens. | 09:27 |
| onefang | You have been LED #devuan-offtopic. | 09:29 |
| adhoc | oops | 09:30 |
| systemdlete2 | I swapped out the ethernet switch at the TV end instead. Let's see if that solves anything. It's a brand new switch replacing another which has been there for (I think) about a year. | 09:54 |
| systemdlete2 | (btw, I HAD tried moving ethernet cables around on the previous switch, but it did not stop the problem from occurring. | 10:06 |
| gnarface | one more guess: could it be heat related? | 10:25 |
| gnarface | i've got one cheap usb ethernet dongle that gets really hot under load, i'd imagine it could overheat if it was not in a well ventilated space | 10:25 |
| gnarface | though i would expect some error to be thrown in that case maybe not | 10:26 |
| gnarface | but with a record-temperature summer approaching fast i'd expect the inside of a TV cabinet to be one of those types of places if there's no vent fan on it | 10:27 |
| micdud | trying to figure out why a login shell in schroor does not source schroot local /etc/groups but su - user does | 12:03 |
| micdud | /etc/group rather | 12:03 |
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