| Guest1554 | hi, I just came from Voidlinux and I want ask you if devuan can accept nonfree debian repo. because my laptop have intel wireless AC 9620 and I need packages firmware-iwlwifi, intel-microcode (non-free) and firmware-misc-nonfree. All of them found in buster nonfree. | 10:45 |
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| Guest1554 | is there any one in this room ? | 10:47 |
| gnarface | i wish they'd stay longer | 10:57 |
| global_elites | now he might never know | 11:46 |
| devuan-cn | MOTHERBOARD:MSI MAG B550M MORTAR WIFI | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | CPU:AMD 5700X | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | M.2 SSD:HS-SSD-C2000Pro 512G | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | OS:Devuan 4.0 | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | When the hard disk is installed in the first m.2, everything is normal. | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | When the hard disk is installed in the second m.2, | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | During GRUB 2 boot, press C, a lot of C will be printed on the screen, and then wait a few seconds, and the computer will crash. | 13:47 |
| devuan-cn | Disklabel type: dos | 13:49 |
| gnarface | seems like a bios bug but i don't know for sure | 13:55 |
| gnarface | go tthe latest bios for that? | 13:55 |
| gnarface | got the* | 13:57 |
| xrogaan | gnarface: you didn't acknowledge within the standardized 30 seconds of possible attention, so they left. | 14:44 |
| devuan-cn | gnarface,I try again | 14:47 |
| devuan-cn | Maybe so. I'll try upgrading the BIOS again。 | 14:49 |
| devuan-cn | bios:7C94v19 | 15:03 |
| devuan-cn | latest:7C94v1B | 15:03 |
| devuan-cn | BIOS:latest stable,hard disk is installed in the first m.2, | 15:46 |
| devuan-cn | grub 2,Wait 0 second, press C, OK | 15:46 |
| devuan-cn | Wait 1 second, press C, OK | 15:46 |
| devuan-cn | Wait 2 second, press C, OK | 15:46 |
| devuan-cn | Wait 3-5 seconds, press C, Sometimes OK，Sometimes a lot of C will be printed on the screen, and then wait a few seconds, the computer will crash. | 15:46 |
| devuan-cn | grub2 bug？or bios bug？or b550 bug？ | 15:47 |
| fsmithred | devuan-cn, is it uefi? Maybe some hints here: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=353755 | 15:57 |
| gnarface | devuan-cn: that's not a samsung drive is it? | 16:00 |
| devuan-cn | fsmithred，CMS | 17:00 |
| devuan-cn | Legacy+UEFI | 17:02 |
| devuan-cn | CSM | 17:03 |
| devuan-cn | SSD:HS-SSD-C2000Pro 512G | 17:04 |
| devuan-cn | Non-Volatile memory controller: Silicon Motion, Inc. SM2262/SM2262EN SSD Controller (rev 03) | 17:06 |
| devuan-cn | gnarface | 17:07 |
| devuan-cn | GPU:nvidia A4000 | 17:08 |
| gnarface | eh, nevermind then | 17:08 |
| gnarface | samsung drives have some issue with certain amd motherboards and you have to disable command queueing via kernel command-line | 17:09 |
| gnarface | i don't recall seeing that it affected any other drives | 17:09 |
| gnarface | i don't recall seeing that it affected any other brands | 17:10 |
| gnarface | in that case it'd be affecting any slot though | 17:11 |
| gnarface | just not 100% of the time | 17:11 |
| devuan-cn | I have no idea | 17:11 |
| devuan-cn | When booting, do not press the keyboard. Everything starts normally according to the default item | 17:13 |
| devuan-cn | Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type | 17:14 |
| devuan-cn | nvme0n1p1 2048 64002047 64000000 30.5G 83 Linux | 17:15 |
| devuan-cn | nvme0n1p2 64002048 128002047 64000000 30.5G 83 Linux | 17:15 |
| devuan-cn | nvme0n1p3 128002048 192002047 64000000 30.5G 83 Linux | 17:15 |
| devuan-cn | nvme0n1p4 192002048 1000214527 808212480 385.4G 83 Linux | 17:15 |
| devuan-cn | Continue the research tomorrow. Sleep sleep | 17:17 |
| Guest2731 | How to fix an error installing nnn? | 21:23 |
| Guest2731 | https://i.ibb.co/6HH1F9Z/28-2.jpg | 21:23 |
| gnarface | paste it at imgur and i'll look at it | 21:23 |
| Guest2731 | Registration requires a phone number. | 21:26 |
| Guest2731 | What's wrong with looking at the picture in the link? | 21:26 |
| * golinux thinks imgur is yucky | 21:34 | |
| fsmithred | Guest2731, I think you need to install devuan-keyring | 21:37 |
| fsmithred | Guest2731, are you trying to upgrade from ascii (or jessie) to chimaera? Where did you get 1.24 of init-system-helpers? beowulf has 1.56. | 21:40 |
| fsmithred | your sysv-rc is very old, too | 21:41 |
| fsmithred | 1.24 is from jessie. | 21:43 |
| fsmithred | if you're really trying to go from jessie to chimaera, it's probably faster to back up your data and do a fresh install. | 21:44 |
| Guest2731 | fsmithred, | 21:45 |
| Guest2731 | I am using jessie. | 21:45 |
| Guest2731 | problem installing devuan-keyring | 21:45 |
| Guest2731 | https://i.ibb.co/FbY2Gym/28-3.jpg | 21:45 |
| Guest2731 | "Where did you get 1.24 of init-system-helpers?" | 21:47 |
| Guest2731 | How can I find out which version is being used? | 21:47 |
| gnarface | dpkg -l |grep init | 21:48 |
| gnarface | btw you don't have to register to imgur to post | 21:48 |
| gnarface | they don't make it hard at all, you can just post right there from the front page | 21:48 |
| fsmithred | from the output of your command | 21:49 |
| fsmithred | Preparing to unpack... over... | 21:49 |
| fsmithred | second image is same as the first | 21:50 |
| Guest2731 | I just made a mistake, I have chimaera! | 21:51 |
| fsmithred | how long do you think you've been running chimaera? | 21:52 |
| fsmithred | what's the output of the command that gnarface suggested? | 21:53 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l |grep init | 21:53 |
| fsmithred | don't paste that output here | 21:54 |
| mohammed | hello | 21:54 |
| fsmithred | hi | 21:55 |
| mohammed | SysV commands not runs with me. do anybody know what happens? | 21:55 |
| fsmithred | Command not found? | 21:55 |
| Guest2731 | fsmithred, If the installation had ended, the terminal would not have said: | 21:56 |
| Guest2731 | nnn: command not found | 21:56 |
| mohammed | yes | 21:56 |
| fsmithred | mohammed, use 'su -' to become root, instead of just 'su' | 21:56 |
| mohammed | fsmithred, it is worked | 21:58 |
| fsmithred | :) | 21:58 |
| fsmithred | the behavior of su changed, so a lot of people run into this. | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | oops. | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | Guest2731, what version of sysvinit-core is installed? | 21:59 |
| fsmithred | that'll be in the output of that dpkg command | 22:00 |
| Guest2731 | fsmithred, https://imgur.com/a/EDnwKTo | 22:01 |
| fsmithred | can't you just paste the version here? | 22:01 |
| Guest2731 | 2.88dsf-59.2+devuan2 | 22:03 |
| fsmithred | yeah, that's jessie | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | how do you think you arrived at chimaera? | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | what did you do to get there? | 22:04 |
| fsmithred | there are really only three possible answers to that question: upgraded from an older system, did a fresh install, or migrated a debian system to devuan. | 22:06 |
| Guest2731 | i see: nano /etc/apt/sources.list and understood - original repos system - jessie, but now I'm even more confused | 22:08 |
| gnarface | did you use the word stable or the word jessie? | 22:11 |
| fsmithred | when did you change it to chimaera? | 22:11 |
| Guest2731 | fsmithred, | 22:15 |
| Guest2731 | I looked in the sources.list and realized that the old links to the repositories are turned off through the hash symbol (devuan-jessie), and the new ones are devuan-chimaera. Also I recently added debian-stretch. | 22:15 |
| Guest2731 | gnarface, jessie | 22:15 |
| fsmithred | adding debian repos is dangerous (like having unprotected sex) | 22:16 |
| fsmithred | and upgrading directly from jessie to chimaera is an unknown. | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | one of your problems is that the same file is in two different packages. | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | there was probably a version between your old one and the newest one that addressed this issue. | 22:17 |
| fsmithred | but you skipped over it. | 22:18 |
| Guest2731 | I assume that some of the problems arose from the fact that I configured the repositories incorrectly. How can I test this guess? | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | maybe looking though /var/log/apt/history* | 22:19 |
| fsmithred | the correct way to upgrade would have been from jessie to ascii, then to beowulf, then to chimaera. | 22:20 |
| fsmithred | and probably wouldn't be fun even if you did it right | 22:21 |
| fsmithred | and check the date on sources.list to see when it was last edited | 22:25 |
| Guest2731 | history.log dropmefiles.com/NAoWZ | 22:26 |
| fsmithred | look at versions of packages and compare to what pkginfo.devuan.org shows you. | 22:27 |
| fsmithred | you should be able to figure out when you started getting chimaera packages. I'm guessing it was recent. If it's not in that file, check the archived versions with zless. | 22:28 |
| Guest2731 | I shortened sources.list to jessie repositories. | 22:35 |
| Guest2731 | Can I now roll back the system to a point where I have no problem installing nnn and devuan-keyring? | 22:35 |
| fsmithred | maybe, but it's probably a mess and would require some creative pinning. If this is the first upgrade you attempted with chimaera sources, there's a better chance it'll work. | 22:42 |
| Guest2731 | What does it look like chimaera sources? | 22:45 |
| fsmithred | deb http://deb.devuan.org/merged chimaera main | 22:45 |
| fsmithred | same for chimaera-security and chimaera-updates | 22:46 |
| fsmithred | add contrib and non-free if you use those | 22:46 |
| fsmithred | https://www.devuan.org/os/packages | 22:46 |
| fsmithred | examples ^^^ | 22:47 |
| Guest2731 | Tried to install nnn but got errors: | 23:01 |
| Guest2731 | https://imgur.com/a/uXPk760 | 23:01 |
| Guest2731 | How to fix? | 23:01 |
| Guest2731 | fsmithred, question above | 23:22 |
| Guest2731 | I have other things to do and I'm leaving the chat. | 23:42 |
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