libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-06-19

treeofknowledgewhat's the command to install the nvidia gui?00:20
brocashelmnvidia-settings?00:22
treeofknowledgeyes that's it00:24
treeofknowledgethank you!00:24
treeofknowledgein order to install nvidia driver without problems i needed to use this command00:26
treeofknowledgeapt install nvidia-driver --no-install-recommends && apt install nvidia-cuda-dev nvidia-cuda-toolkit --no-install-recommends00:26
treeofknowledgethank you all!00:26
treeofknowledgehas anyone successfully installed ryzen 3600 cpu with devuan and not suffered random system freezes?03:29
treeofknowledgei experienced this on linux mint03:29
gnarfacewhat kernel version was mint using?04:08
treeofknowledge15.4.---04:09
gnarfacewell, the chimaera kernel should be newer than that, and if it isn't stable try the even newer one in chimaera-backports04:11
gnarfaceno hardware to test here so that's the only suggestion i've got04:11
gnarfacenot sure if 5.4 is even actually newer than that ryzen cpu or not04:11
brocashelmi'm also using ryzen 5 3600 and having no issues; on ceres, though04:27
brocashelmi know i would have random system freezes with cinnamon, regardless of cpu04:27
brocashelmthat cpu came out in mid-2019, IIRC04:28
brocashelmmaybe you're missing amd64-microcode?04:28
treeofknowledge1brocqhelm what kernal u using05:57
treeofknowledge15.10.12?05:57
treeofknowledge1what is the differences between ceres and chimera05:58
treeofknowledge1pros and cons?05:59
brocashelm5.18.0-206:00
brocashelmceres = unstable06:00
brocashelmchimaera = stable06:00
brocashelmwith unstable, it just means packages change often daily06:00
brocashelmunstable has newer packages (hence bug fixes from upstream) and is only recommended for people who know exactly what they're doing; the wrong moves could break your entire system06:01
brocashelmalthough you could get some newer packages if you enabled chimaera-backports repo06:01
brocashelmfor the best of both worlds without switching entirely06:01
dbbshey quick question, is there any better personal webcam "photo booth" than cheese on the devuan repos?07:30
dbbscheese is okay just wondering if there's something I'm missing out on07:30
dbbs:307:30
brocashelmdbbs: have you tried kamoso?07:33
dbbsno I haven't07:37
dbbsinstalling now07:38
dbbsoh that's seemingly much better07:39
treeofknowledgehi07:40
dbbshello07:40
dbbsthanks brocashelm I think that's just what I wanted lol07:40
treeofknowledgewhat are the commands ro check for kernal updates and install/uninstall them on devuan07:42
dbbsDo you mean in the manjaro style?07:42
dbbsprobably arch style too...07:43
dbbsI don't actually know if there is one in devuan but I just started using devuan 2 days ago07:43
dbbsI'm just curious if that's what you meant07:43
brocashelmtreeofknowledge1: it's all dependent on apt. if you have linux-image-amd64 installed, you will always have the latest kernel installed07:53
brocashelmquickest way to check all your existing kernels is to run find /boot/vmli*07:54
brocashelmapt by default will automatically prompt you to remove all but the second most recent kernel you have, so run sudo apt autoremove to remove the old kernels07:55
brocashelmdpkg --list | grep linux-image also works for listing kernels installed07:56
blastwaveis there a way to get devuan daedalus to stop doing DHCP? I just wanted a static ip but it always does dhcp at every boot. very annoying and crazy.09:19
blastwaveis devuan doing connman stuff ?09:21
braddI just set my static ip's in /etc/network/interfaces.09:30
blastwavenever mind .. connman is infected .. the answer is to dpkg --purge connman isc-dhcp-client isc-dhcp-common  and then reboot. then you get the static ip asked for at install. dumb stuff09:35
treeofknowledge1Ithanks brocashelm!14:00
treeofknowledge1Lasts question, what's some useful, interesting software for a lay user you may share?! Thanks!14:00
XenguyIf you like chess, have a look at Jerry14:04
treeofknowledge1thanks will check it out14:13
treeofknowledge1how stable is backparts?14:13
treeofknowledge1backports*14:13
fsmithredtreeofknowledge1, packages in backports have been tested, but they have not all been tested together. You should be selective and only take what you need.14:47
treeofknowledge1ok thanks!14:53
treeofknowledge1anybody here using mullvad vpn? I'm getting the following error when trying tot connect and it doesn't connect15:04
treeofknowledge1Log: ~/.config/Mullvad VPN/logs/frontend-renderer.log15:05
treeofknowledge1====================15:05
treeofknowledge1[2022-06-19 06:04:17.317][verbose] Tunnel state: disconnected15:05
treeofknowledge1[2022-06-19 06:04:17.406][error] Failed to update the location: No connection established to daemon15:05
treeofknowledge1[2022-06-19 06:04:17.406][error] Failed to update the location: No connection established to daemon15:05
treeofknowledge1I may have to setup openvpn15:05
treeofknowledge1because daemon is systemd right?15:05
treeofknowledge1that or wireguard15:05
treeofknowledge1what works best on devuan15:06
ManisBoth should work just fine.16:51
treeofknowledge1ok thanks manis16:58
brocashelmopenvpn for devuan has systemd parts removed, so you should be ok18:10
treeofknowledge1thanks thanks brocashelm18:41
treeofknowledge1btw i noticed an increase in mining solutions for cryptocurrency on devuan compared to linux mint18:42
golinuxHow can I find a list of 64 bit packages in Chimaera that do not have a 32 bit version also? I'm debating whether to move to 64 bit but this gives me pause . . . r11_memory_32vs64.txt19:19
golinuxI can live without Virtual Box but there may be others things that I do want to keep using . . .19:20
* golinux goes off for a cuppa tea19:26
used____golinux: regexp use on full package list.19:33
used____You need more ram with 64 bit for the same package mix, also more disk.19:34
used____Not twice as much.19:34
PonHow do I manage services in openrc? I don't seem to have rc-update in devuan daedalus. Also can I pass flags like -d to a service?19:45
used____golinux: this came up in #linux in related context: comm -23 <(sort A) <(sort B) ; where A and B are lists of i386 and non i386 packages19:55
fsmithredNo 32-bit skype (as if you care about that)20:34
golinuxHahaha . . .no!20:34
golinuxBack to plan A, I think . . .20:35
fsmithredhttps://hackaday.com/2019/07/09/the-saga-of-32-bit-linux-why-going-64-bit-raises-concerns-over-multilib/20:40
* golinux goes to read . . .20:41
fsmithredno clear answer there, but some good background20:41
golinuxI am still confused what to do . . .20:49
fsmithredwell, you can run 32-bit virtual machines on a 64-bit system, but not the other way around.20:49
golinuxqemu can but can virtual box?20:50
fsmithredyeah, I used to make my isos with vbox.20:51
fsmithredboth 32 and 64 on a 64 system20:51
fsmithredand I know I recently made a 32-bit iso in a qemu VM. (you have that iso)20:51
golinuxI'd still like to see the list of pkgs without a 32 bit option . . .20:51
fsmithredI couldn't find one20:52
golinuxYuppers20:52
golinuxWill I have to fiddle with the BIOS to enable 64 bit?20:54
golinuxI seem to remember that it is in the list last time I checked . . .20:56
golinuxIt's a little fuzzy though20:56
fsmithredyou don't have to mess with the bios for 64-bit. Just boot a 64-bit iso for the install.21:15
fsmithredhere's a list of packages in amd64 that aren't in i386. I made it by comparing apt-cache search amd64 with search for i386.21:16
golinuxWhere is the list?21:24
fsmithredhttps://termbin.com/a1mp21:24
golinuxThanks.21:24
fsmithredI removed grub, linux-image and linux-headers from the list.21:25
golinuxReally nothing that important in there.21:29
golinuxMaybe lshw21:30
golinuxThe microcode is creepy . . .21:30

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