| mtnman | hello! | 00:25 |
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| brocashelm | anyone else on ceres still having libllvm14 held back? | 04:34 |
| gnarface | i don't think so... held back at which version? | 04:38 |
| brocashelm | 1:14.0.6-1 | 04:40 |
| gnarface | oh, that's newer than my last update, but i was able to get a libllvm14 | 04:41 |
| brocashelm | if i "install" it, i'll have libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libglx-mesa0:i386 libllvm14:i386 mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 removed; libffi7 libffi7:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386 will be marked for autoremove | 04:41 |
| brocashelm | i also use oibaf's repo, so that might be why | 04:41 |
| gnarface | sounds like the i386 counterpart isn't built yet | 04:41 |
| gnarface | ... or something to do with the 3rd party repo's versioning | 04:41 |
| brocashelm | probably just going to wait | 04:42 |
| brocashelm | yeah, i get them straight from upstream whenever changes occur | 04:42 |
| sgage | libllvm14 was being held back for me until I did 'apt autoremove'. | 12:52 |
| sgage | A few packages were removed, and then libllvm14 upgraded fine. | 12:53 |
| sgage | Alas I don't remember what packages were removed to enable this, but they | 12:53 |
| sgage | were removed by autoremove so they were unecessary. | 12:54 |
| ___used | I had a browser caused crash yesterday, old hw etc. When rebooted, the desktop xfce4 was restored to a state which was at least 4 months old! I save session daily. And I wiped old saved sessions almost weekly. Where the d*****s does xfce4 store old sessions that it pulls them out from upon restore after crash? | 16:57 |
| ___used | updatedb + locate found nothing outside ~/.config -- xtoolplaces may use some backup file? Has anyone looked into these things? xfce4 mystery behavior related to saved sessions? | 16:58 |
| fsmithred | ___used, I've only found saved desktop configs in ~/.config | 17:33 |
| fsmithred | possibly something in ~/.local | 17:34 |
| ___used | Nothing I could find in ~/.local | 17:41 |
| ___used | is relevant | 17:41 |
| ___used | xtoolplaces is not installed | 17:42 |
| ___used | Beowulf here. | 17:42 |
| ___used | Has anyone traced xfce4 call trees and such? | 17:42 |
| jjakob | fsmithred: ___used: maybe in .cache or .share | 19:31 |
| fsmithred | oh, ~/.cache/sessions looks good. | 19:34 |
| jjakob | I don't use xfce so I don't know how it would store session state | 19:35 |
| jjakob | there may be xfce channels here | 19:35 |
| rwp | That xfce session from 4 months ago seems very odd to me. There wasn't a file system snapshot restoration used was there? | 20:53 |
| ___used | du -sk .cache -> 1.4 GB | 20:58 |
| ___used | rwp: no | 20:58 |
| rwp | Here on a machine: du -sh .cache; -> 2.4G .cache | 20:59 |
| ___used | .cache is now a strong candidate for movement to a tmp mount | 20:59 |
| rwp | Sure. In my case here it is mostly Firefox and Chromium. find .cache -type f -ls | less | 20:59 |
| ___used | Half of that 1.4GB is in .cache/Google due to using Android Studio | 20:59 |
| rwp | Sure. But the complaint was about xfce returning to a saved state from 4 months prior. | 21:00 |
| ___used | Yes, no idea what did that. On reboot, perhaps fsck restored a stale session file somehow. Been about that long since rebooting. | 21:01 |
| rwp | That's unlikely something fsck would do. More likely there was an explicit session save and then no new ones made since. | 21:01 |
| ___used | That is impossible, I save session manually from xfce4 Settings Session and Startup at least once every few days. | 21:02 |
| fsmithred | I have ~/.cache/sessions/xfce4-session-<hostname>:0 and xfce4-session-<hostname>:0.bak. The former had a date of Jun22 until I just logged out of desktop and in again. Now it has today's date, two minutes ago. | 21:12 |
| fsmithred | the .bak file is from May. | 21:13 |
| fsmithred | There's also one called xfce4-session-refracta:0 with a date in Dec. 2019. That was the hostname and date that I installed this system. | 21:14 |
| fsmithred | oh, the .bak file is now the Jun22 version. | 21:17 |
| ___used | I had only one session file in there, no .bak | 21:18 |
| ___used | But this is after executing delete saved sessions in Settings Session | 21:19 |
| ___used | Cant' know what was there before. | 21:19 |
| unclouded | Hi, should kernel bugs be reported to Devuan or to kernel.org? The kernel is 5.10.120-1 from chimaera but kernel.org says they only support 5.10.129. The trace is at https://pastebin.com/qnLV73jp | 23:00 |
| fsmithred | the kernels are packaged by debian, so that's probably where the bug reports should go | 23:03 |
| ring-2 | hello unclouded: i'm not sure because systemd will become a new sight next time | 23:03 |
| ring-2 | always go for debian root, no whater if u understanding what u're doing -.- | 23:04 |
| ring-2 | at least we have a base... | 23:05 |
| unclouded | thanks, will do | 23:07 |
| notjustforfun | lulz | 23:09 |
| notjustforfun | sup???? | 23:09 |
| notjustforfun | bye | 23:10 |
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