systemdlete | still having fun here. I wonder if the bad memory caused some permanent disk issues. | 04:51 |
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systemdlete | at any rate, I am getting a ton of hash mismatches now. | 04:51 |
systemdlete | I created a brand new VM and running update/upgrade. But it is complaining about all these hash mismatches. | 04:51 |
systemdlete | Plus, comcast seems to be having a bad day or something. It's been up and down several times now. | 04:52 |
systemdlete | re-running apt upgrade seems to help, but I am not sure if this should go unchecked. I mean, isn't a hash mismatch a problem? Why am I getting those? How do I diagnose the problem? | 04:59 |
systemdlete | the two packages with the hash mismatch were linux-image and firefox-esr | 05:00 |
systemdlete | they downloaded cleanly this time | 05:00 |
gnarface | well, with or without bad ram there are several cases where you can plausibly get filesystem corruption | 05:06 |
gnarface | not to mention just having a bad harddrive too... | 05:06 |
systemdlete | I've checked the logs and see no indicators of bad drives | 05:07 |
systemdlete | I do have some spare drives on hand just in case | 05:07 |
gnarface | one way to test; tar the entire contents of the filesystem up to some other known-good (freshly formatted with the current kernel) backup drive, then freshly format the current suspect drive (with the current kernel; in some cases this part may be important) then untar the backup back to it... if the errors go away then your filesystem was corrupt and the drive is physically fine | 05:08 |
systemdlete | I am looking at memory (my original order did not go through) | 05:08 |
systemdlete | It seems that ECC memory is not generally available for consumer mainboards | 05:09 |
gnarface | seen ext4 corruption based on switching kernels/tools unluckily | 05:09 |
systemdlete | on switching kernels? | 05:09 |
systemdlete | really? | 05:09 |
gnarface | yea, ext4 known issue sometime around the wheezy/jessie or jessie/ascii changeover, i forget which | 05:09 |
systemdlete | oh | 05:09 |
systemdlete | not recently though? | 05:09 |
gnarface | i don't think so, but i kinda stopped using ext4 after that | 05:10 |
systemdlete | Everything seemed to be ok until I rebooted from the -14 to the -16 kernel | 05:10 |
gnarface | somewhat after it, it was corrupting regularly on a slow crappy SD card i had, and i was told since that bug had been fixed it MUST be a bad SD card, but then i switched the filesystem on the SD card to something else and the problem stopped happening, so i'm still blaming ext4 for that too | 05:11 |
systemdlete | sure | 05:11 |
gnarface | but that was also not recently | 05:11 |
systemdlete | I'd almost pay for a mainboard supporting ECC if I could find one | 05:11 |
systemdlete | I think that would obviate some of these problems, though not entirely of course | 05:11 |
systemdlete | but that's only if someone can convince me it is really worth it | 05:12 |
systemdlete | If this is too theoretical, we can skip this, but if there is a decent chance of heading off a good deal of problems, I might be interested. | 05:14 |
systemdlete | gnarface: What about the CPU? | 05:14 |
systemdlete | I've got a fx8350 (8 cores) and I've got some spares in case that part breaks. | 05:14 |
systemdlete | I know that some time soon, I will need to "ryzen up" but for now these have been satisfactory | 05:15 |
gnarface | you're wondering if a bad cpu could corrupt the filesystem? i suppose so, but if you just found bad ram i'd blame that first | 05:52 |
gnarface | if you're on a AMD board it should already support ECC, afaik all the AMD boards do stock, that's something only Intel charges extra fo | 05:53 |
gnarface | for* | 05:53 |
gnarface | i'm not sure what the price on ECC ram is these days though, has been a while since i bought it but i think then it was something like 250% of the price of regular ram? | 05:54 |
gnarface | i would just first start by pulling the bad ram stick from the machine and doing a drive re-format | 05:56 |
___used | Are we updated? X.org? https://www.theregister.com/2022/07/13/xorg_servers_updated/ | 19:54 |
___used | I see nothing in aptitude. | 19:55 |
lts | Not yet | 19:55 |
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