| golinux | Are there any gui tools for user and group management? Gnome used to have a "Users and Groups" which was part of another package but it went "away" afaik | 02:45 |
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| plasma41 | golinux: hardinfo lets you view user and groups, but doesn't support editting. That's the only thing that comes immediately to mind. | 02:56 |
| GoatAvenger | golinux, in MATE under system>administration there is a users and groups GUI tool, it seems, dunno how flexible it is though | 02:56 |
| GoatAvenger | you probably aren't using mate, but it seems to have a rudimentary gui tool | 02:56 |
| GoatAvenger | golinux, quick search says 'Eiciel' is the way to go... *shrugs* | 02:57 |
| u-amarsh04 | has anyone experienced update-grub no longer being triggered when adding or removing kernels? | 03:18 |
| golinux | GoatAvenger: The Mate package is the one that I used to use. I thought it "went away" | 03:36 |
| golinux | I wonder what the name of the pkg is. | 03:37 |
| GoatAvenger | u-amarsh04, not to my knowledge | 03:37 |
| * golinux goes to pkg-info | 03:37 | |
| GoatAvenger | golinux, good luck, i'm off to dreamland shortly, hopefully... | 03:38 |
| plasma41 | golinux: mate-user-admin ? | 03:38 |
| u-amarsh04 | having a look GoatAvenger - I can run update-grub manually fine, but installing stock kernels doesn't trigger update-grub | 03:38 |
| golinux | The master treasure hunter may just have found it! | 03:39 |
| plasma41 | :-D | 03:39 |
| golinux | u-amarsh04: That sounds vaguely familiar. Search the forum. | 03:39 |
| u-amarsh04 | there was one discussion on the dev1galaxy.org forum that I found by googling but that was more to do with update-grub not being found | 03:40 |
| golinux | plasma41: Not in chimaera. | 03:41 |
| plasma41 | golinux: hmm... | 03:41 |
| golinux | In Daedalus and Ceres . . . | 03:42 |
| golinux | I wonder which one would be best to try? | 03:43 |
| plasma41 | appears to be only in testing and unstable | 03:43 |
| golinux | Probably none atm. LOL! | 03:43 |
| plasma41 | Looks like both testing and unstable have the same version right now | 03:44 |
| golinux | Thanks for finding that. | 03:44 |
| * golinux sends a hug | 03:44 | |
| golinux | I am now officially on chimaera but it was a breech birth | 03:45 |
| * plasma41 hugs | 03:45 | |
| golinux | I am off to tea! | 03:45 |
| u-amarsh04 | restarting | 03:58 |
| spine-o-saurus | is there way to install this from the stable repos? https://dpaste.org/DrvGw | 20:55 |
| fsmithred | spine-o-saurus, is libsystemd0 installed, or does that package want to pull it in? | 20:58 |
| spine-o-saurus | libelogind-compat is installed already. the package seems to be wanting systemd though | 20:59 |
| fsmithred | and you have libelogind0 installed? | 21:00 |
| spine-o-saurus | ya | 21:00 |
| fsmithred | that should satisfy the need for lsd0 | 21:00 |
| spine-o-saurus | huh? i was just trying to install libsdl2-mixer-dev | 21:01 |
| fsmithred | yeah, I'm checking deps on packages to see where the hangup is | 21:02 |
| fsmithred | are you running daedalus or ceres? I don't see libelogind-compat | 21:07 |
| spine-o-saurus | ok, it works only if i switch back to ceres | 21:09 |
| spine-o-saurus | i was on daedalus | 21:09 |
| fsmithred | same version is in daedalus and ceres | 21:09 |
| spine-o-saurus | weird, something is bugged then | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | maybe some other dep hasn't moved down to daedalus yet. | 21:14 |
| spine-o-saurus | ya when it installed it said The following additional packages will be installed: | 21:15 |
| spine-o-saurus | libopusfile0 libsdl2-mixer-2.0-0 | 21:15 |
| fsmithred | those are same version in daedalus and ceres, too. | 21:22 |
| spine-o-saurus | then the installer needs to be fixed | 21:23 |
| spine-o-saurus | apt | 21:23 |
| plasma41 | spine-o-saurus: Output of `aptitude why-not libsdl2-mixer-dev` ? | 21:35 |
| spine-o-saurus | aptitude isnt even a command on the system | 21:37 |
| plasma41 | plasma41: `apt-get install aptitude` will fix that if you want to try it | 21:39 |
| * plasma41 is clearing in need of some caffeine | 21:40 | |
| plasma41 | s/clearing/clearly/ | 21:40 |
| * plasma41 is just proving his own point harder | 21:40 | |
| spine-o-saurus | E: Package 'aptitude' has no installation candidate | 21:40 |
| spine-o-saurus | you are on daedalus devuan right? | 21:41 |
| plasma41 | spine-o-saurus: Pastebin of your sources.list? | 21:41 |
| spine-o-saurus | https://dpaste.org/icvHJ | 21:42 |
| plasma41 | spine-o-saurus: I'm currently on a totally unsupported hybrid, multi-release system, but aptitude should be available everywhere. | 21:42 |
| spine-o-saurus | maybe that is related to the same issue of the sdl2-mixer issue then | 21:43 |
| plasma41 | spine-o-saurus: Does `apt-get update` work? | 21:44 |
| spine-o-saurus | ya | 21:45 |
| plasma41 | Output of `apt-get check`? | 21:46 |
| spine-o-saurus | just says Done | 21:47 |
| plasma41 | Anything in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? | 21:48 |
| spine-o-saurus | naw | 21:49 |
| plasma41 | Well I'm stumped :-/ | 21:51 |
| plasma41 | How was this system installed? Was it upgraded from an earlier install? | 21:52 |
| spine-o-saurus | installed from ceres but updated to daedalus | 21:53 |
| plasma41 | Installed from ceres when? | 21:54 |
| spine-o-saurus | 2022-07-25 | 21:55 |
| plasma41 | and /updated/ to daedalus, you say? | 21:55 |
| spine-o-saurus | ya | 21:56 |
| plasma41 | hmm.., your best bet may just be a fresh install of daedalus | 21:58 |
| plasma41 | What's the desired usecase for this system? | 21:59 |
| plasma41 | What's your motivation for use Devuan Testing? /gen | 21:59 |
| plasma41 | s/use/using/ | 21:59 |
| spine-o-saurus | it only runs daedalus because firmware is proper support | 22:00 |
| plasma41 | Firmware for which hardware? | 22:01 |
| spine-o-saurus | the gpu display | 22:03 |
| plasma41 | Output of `lspci` ? | 22:09 |
| golinux | Installed from ceres HOW? There are no ceres install media | 22:23 |
| golinux | ceres = sid | 22:23 |
| furrymcgee | there are netboot mini images with installer https://www.devuan.org/get-devuan | 22:56 |
| furrymcgee | netboot in my opinion the one true method of installation | 23:02 |
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