| xrogaan | Is somebody aware of breaking changes coming in the next stable? | 01:14 |
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| xrogaan | broken english urgh | 01:44 |
| Guest87 | Can I use apt-mirror on Ubuntu to create a mirror of the repository for Devuan? | 02:01 |
| fsmithred | Guest87, maybe this will help: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan_mirror_walkthrough.txt | 02:35 |
| Guest87 | How do I do that without Step 2? Can I ftpsync deb.devuan.org/merged/dists/? | 02:44 |
| fsmithred | sorry, I have no idea how to do it. | 02:45 |
| fsmithred | Guest87, do you want to set up a public mirror or a private mirror? | 02:47 |
| Guest87 | I want to setup a Private Mirror. | 02:48 |
| fsmithred | onefang would be the person who would know the answer. | 02:50 |
| golinux | Guest87: Are you aware that most of the repo comes directly from Debian? | 02:50 |
| golinux | https://git.devuan.org/devuan/amprolla3 | 02:50 |
| golinux | Yeah . . . talk to onefang | 02:50 |
| fsmithred | you might need to run amprolla locally. I know that aitor does that. | 02:51 |
| rwp | I always used to maintain a full local mirror, until Debian got so very large. Now I am using apt-cacher-ng. Which only freaks out every other week or so. | 02:54 |
| Guest87 | Yes. I want to update the OS and the other software I use. 600GB is too large. | 03:04 |
| systemdlete | image.. | 05:45 |
| systemdlete | /usr/sbin/grub-probe: warning: Couldn't find physical volume `pv1'. Some modules may be missing from core | 05:45 |
| systemdlete | image.. | 05:45 |
| systemdlete | (sorry for mis-fire there...) | 05:45 |
| systemdlete | the only place I see references to pv1 are in /etc/lvm/backup and /etc/lvm/archive | 05:46 |
| systemdlete | It is no longer an active pv. In fact, I think I changed this when I installed, but I am not sure. | 05:46 |
| systemdlete | Please don't tell me not to worry about it. | 05:46 |
| systemdlete | I am NOT worried about it. | 05:46 |
| systemdlete | But it might be pointing to some code that needs clean-up somewhere deep in the system. | 05:47 |
| systemdlete | And, no, there are no modules missing from core. Because I am running lvm without incident currently. | 05:48 |
| systemdlete | I think pv1 might have gotten renamed shortly after installing devuan. | 05:48 |
| systemdlete | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=650724 talks about this a bit. | 05:49 |
| systemdlete | (the last message posted to this bug was in 2014.) | 05:50 |
| xrogaan | whenever I upgrade the linux kernel, apparmor sneaks in. Is there a way to forbid that package from being installed? | 06:43 |
| xrogaan | For some reason, it's installed as recommendation. So --no-install-recommends would work. It's just that I thought that I disabled that behavior. | 06:46 |
| gnarface | there is a way to disable recommends from the config file, it should mention it in the man page | 07:21 |
| gnarface | but there's also a way to prevent installation of specific packages through apt pinning | 07:21 |
| loosh[m] | https://www.intel.in/content/www/in/en/support/articles/000008927/software/chipset-software.html | 09:30 |
| loosh[m] | i cant turn this off because i cant go to the lower abstraction realm from the higher abstraction environment of linux | 09:31 |
| loosh[m] | right | 09:31 |
| aitor | Guest87: you don't need to host the whole repository | 15:56 |
| aitor | I'm developing a new alsamixer in Gtk, and the program is well advanced | 16:01 |
| aitor | I shall call it `gmixer`, maybe | 16:02 |
| aitor | bbl | 16:04 |
| gnarface | anyone know how to get vlc to stop launching maximized? | 20:55 |
| * gnarface sighs | 20:57 | |
| fsmithred | is that in ceres? | 20:57 |
| gnarface | nevermind... fucking creepy it just stopped doing it and the only thing i changed was asking here | 20:57 |
| fsmithred | here it opens to whatever size it was when I closed it | 20:57 |
| gnarface | yea it used to, then it wasn't, then it was again | 20:58 |
| gnarface | some fuckery is afoot | 20:58 |
| lts- | Did you try a search engine with something like "vlc launch maximized"? Though I don't think Devuan has any specialized vlc so you should probably ask from #vlc (if that is a real channel) | 20:58 |
| * fsmithred watched gnarface's paranoia level shoot through the roof | 20:58 | |
| fsmithred | whatches | 20:58 |
| fsmithred | damn fingers | 20:58 |
| gnarface | maybe the config file got corrupted and .... uncorrupted itself just now somehow | 20:59 |
| fsmithred | stray click? | 20:59 |
| fsmithred | I get a lot of those on a trackpad | 20:59 |
| gnarface | i mean, i was clicking through the menus but there's no clear evidence of why it suddenly worked, this was a problem for weeks | 21:00 |
| gnarface | the console output is noisy though, if there was evidence in there i would have missed it | 21:00 |
| gnarface | bzcat: I/O or other error, bailing out. Possible reason follows. | 21:01 |
| gnarface | bzcat: Broken pipe | 21:01 |
| gnarface | like this maybe? | 21:01 |
| gnarface | dunno | 21:01 |
| gnarface | brb | 21:01 |
| gnarface | eh, it's fine now but mplayer also broke | 21:08 |
| fsmithred | weird | 21:08 |
| gnarface | specifically, this no longer works: mplayer -vc ffmpeg12vdpau,ffwmv3vdpau,ffvc1vdpau,ffhevcvdpau,ffh264vdpau,ffodivxvdpau [file] | 21:09 |
| fsmithred | which version of vlc? I see that I'm one behind in daedalus. | 21:09 |
| gnarface | well, vlc 3.0.17.4-4+b1 now, but it was also happening on the previous one | 21:10 |
| gnarface | i had updated first to see if that'd fix anything and initially it did not | 21:10 |
| gnarface | so it was weirder when it suddenly did | 21:10 |
| gnarface | i'm wondering if it may actually be some weird misbehavior in enlightenment or efreetd or something like that... stale cache? | 21:11 |
| gnarface | not sure if that can happen | 21:11 |
| gnarface | hmm, i think there was a regression in thunderbird too, i think it's no longer properly recognizing local certificate authorities | 22:01 |
| gnarface | anyone confirm that? | 22:02 |
| gnarface | ugh, nevermind, just found a way to downgrade | 22:59 |
| gnarface | what a mess | 22:59 |
| gnarface | don't upgrade to thunderbird 102, apparently there's lots of problems with it | 23:00 |
| * brocashelm already upgraded to 102 | 23:04 | |
| brocashelm | haven't noticed any issues so far | 23:04 |
| brocashelm | there is 104 in experimental if fixes have been made | 23:05 |
| brocashelm | running just fine on ceres | 23:07 |
| rwp | I have replaced all use of mplayer here with mpv and find mpv to be a good replacement for mplayer. | 23:08 |
| rwp | Being a fork the historical options are all shared the same but some of the newer options have diverged between the two programs. | 23:09 |
| brocashelm | i switched to mpv long ago. it's quite flexible | 23:10 |
| rwp | I could never figure out vlc (or cvlc) to launch it effectively to do what I wanted without then having to chase menu items with the mouse, driving me to mpv. | 23:10 |
| rwp | As far as Thunderbird is concerned... Let me report that Mutt continues to work excellently! A short glitch with Bug#1009791 but fixed quickly. :-) | 23:11 |
| onefang | I had to revert to ASCII neomutt, which is called mutt back then, due to increasing bugs that ASCII didn't have. | 23:16 |
| rwp | I have a similar problem with kvm and virt-viewer for an old VM image. I had to go back to Stretch (aka ASCII) in order to restore a working version. | 23:20 |
| brocashelm | rwp: one of my favorite mpv tricks is to run it in tty mode | 23:23 |
| gnarface | suspecting the mplayer issue is something to do with vdpau breakage | 23:29 |
| gnarface | vlc complains about it too but doesn't seem to have the same framerate problem without it | 23:29 |
| gnarface | not sure what's up with that | 23:29 |
| gnarface | i picked a bad day to upgrade | 23:29 |
| gnarface | the thunderbird issue is specifically to do with my local certificate authority, but it shows up in the list so i'm not sure what's broken | 23:30 |
| gnarface | but then i went looking and apparently people on reddit are having all kinds of other issues with it too | 23:30 |
| gnarface | someone mentioned you can downgrade with "thunderbird --allow-downgrade commandline" | 23:31 |
| gnarface | seems to have worked though it jacked up all my sorting columns | 23:31 |
| gnarface | thunderbird keeps getting worse, i'm more tempted to switch to something else now than ever before | 23:32 |
| gnarface | this shit is a joke non stop | 23:32 |
| gnarface | launch time has also been skyrocketing with each release | 23:32 |
| gnarface | and then you go look on google for the problems and you see the same bugs reported and fixed again going back almost a decade | 23:33 |
| gnarface | it's like they're running in circles | 23:33 |
| gnarface | oh but the fucking directory icons are in color now... ooooh! | 23:33 |
| * gnarface facepalms | 23:33 | |
| rwp | brocashelm, Using aalib is a pretty fun feature! | 23:42 |
| * rwp also laments that I haven't had an "upgrade" in years. Every new release breaks two things for every one thing it fixes. | 23:43 | |
| rwp | If I want to run something newer than ASCII/Stretch for virt-viewer I guess I am going to need to build it myself and figure out what they broke with it. | 23:44 |
| golinux | rwp: I just said goodby to jessie about a month ago. Chimaera has been painful GTK3 and CSD and skinny bars for starts . . . | 23:49 |
| brocashelm | i was having issues running thunderbird profiles on a different gpu (same system) that would crash the program (same as firefox), so i've appended the --allow-downgrade to my launcher | 23:58 |
| brocashelm | the problem is there are no viable graphical e-mail clients aside from thunderbird (a fork would work wonders) | 23:59 |
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