libera/#devuan/ Thursday, 2022-08-25

gnarfacebeen a while since i tried it but i seem to recall something about live images making grub unable to find the right spots on the main drives to configure/install to00:01
gnarfacei wouldn't want to advise you to do anything that would make things worse00:02
leafwizyeah.. That sounds about right, I thought I read something like that online just now00:02
leafwizSo I will try with that rescue usb, and see if it will fix my windows00:03
leafwiz:)00:03
gnarfacegrub-install and update-grub seem a lot smarter when you're running them from inside a booted linux install on a main system drive00:03
leafwizmm.. yeah.00:03
leafwizA different question. A GPT drive , can you dd and enlarge the partitions in gparted?00:04
gnarfaceshould be able to, with some caveats00:05
leafwizI'm going to try move a old drive over to a new drive for a friend. But then I started to wonder about gpt drives00:05
leafwizI have a feeling tts not straightforward to move those.00:06
gnarfaceGPT itself isn't a problem for gparted, though i did run into one problem when switching a GPT partition table to MSDOS type when windows had formerly been on the drive, in which gparted failed to zero the entire partition table and there were false-positives on GPT detection with other tools. not sure that has been fixed or not but the solution i used was to just zero the first few megabytes of the drive and reinstall00:07
leafwizOkay, good. This is also windows, so my plan was first to try the drive manager, and see if that wanted to expand it00:08
gnarfacebut gparted doesn't carry its own filesystem support, so resizing filesystems means you need to have the tool sets for those filesystems also installed (but gparted has a menu that can tell you which ones you have installed easily)00:08
leafwizbut if that was nogo then I wanted to try gparted00:08
leafwizBut I now gpt stores a table in the end of the partition00:09
gnarfaceand note that not all filesystems can be resized while mounted00:09
gnarfaceif you're talking about moving a drive, the bigger issue may be if you're moving from BIOS to UEFI00:09
leafwizmm.. yeah. I'll have to see what he has. and yeah. if the drive is larger than 2TB00:10
leafwizI have been reading up on gdisk. It is able to convert mbr to gpt00:11
leafwizwithout dataloss00:11
gnarfaceyea the only problem i've had with that was going back in the other direction from gpt to mbr00:11
leafwizmm.. yeah, that is a bit different he said00:12
leafwizthe writer00:12
gnarfaceand it was specifically related to also having had windows7 on the drive at the same time00:12
leafwizbit harder00:12
gnarfacebasically windows did something "special" to some internal gpt config that gparted wasn't smart enough to remove00:12
gnarfacebut that was a couple years ago now so it may have been fixed like i said00:13
leafwizYeah, but I think gdisk will work well from mbr to gpt, but then I wonder if the windows bootloader will accept a gpt parition. So I prob need to use the rescue disk to have it make a new bootloader00:16
leafwizBut thanks for the info. Take care! :)00:19
rwpI am just going to note that the Debian wiki page has some useful information on UEFI rescue https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall00:27
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