| Necrodiver | So i have a question regarding the fact SoystainD has entered Sudo. I noticed that i needed a new systemd-tmp-file or some package when i updated sudo last week, and I'm wondering if because of this, the devs have maybe considered taking doas from openbsd as a possible replacement? | 11:22 |
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| gnarface | doas is already in the repos | 11:29 |
| Necrodiver | oh i know it is, i was just putting it out there for a possible default | 11:49 |
| NeonLicht | Hello! I'm having trouble with apt (I believe) caused by IPv6. How can I disable IPv6 on Devuan to fix that, please? | 12:30 |
| lts- | NeonLicht: "sysctl net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1" | 12:32 |
| NeonLicht | Oh, I thought sysctl was part of SystemD and wasn't available on Devuan. | 12:33 |
| NeonLicht | Thank you so much, lts-, that fixed it. Will it be permanent (after a reboot)? | 12:34 |
| gnarface | it will not, you have to add it to /etc/sysctl.conf or /etc/sysctl.d to make it survive reboots | 12:35 |
| lts- | It is "systemctl" which is a systemd tool, not "sysctl" | 12:37 |
| NeonLicht | Cool, gnarface, thanks!! | 12:37 |
| NeonLicht | I see, lts-, I had no idea about sysctl. Every time I've seen anything about it anywhere I've always ignored it believing it didn't apply to my boxes. :-( | 12:39 |
| NeonLicht | I'm afraid I've made things much more complicated than they should've been sometimes looking for ways to do things ignoring sysctl. LOL | 12:41 |
| lts- | No worries, most modern sysctl defaults are fortunately very good | 12:43 |
| NeonLicht | I see. That might be the reason why I've got by without paying attention to it till now. :-) | 12:45 |
| Necrodiver | how is sysctl different from "service?" I usually use service (I use sysvinit) | 12:57 |
| djph | Necrodiver: sysctl is kernel stuff | 12:58 |
| lts- | Necrodiver: sounds like you are also thinking about "systemctl" which is used for enabling/starting/etc services in systemd systems. "sysctl" is a completely different tool, and has nothing to do with service daemons | 12:59 |
| Necrodiver | ah okay, i never used sysctl so thats why im unfamiliar with it | 12:59 |
| lts- | I remember when systemd became a thing and one of the earliest criticisms was the name selection for "systemctl" and how it's going to get confused with "sysctl". Looks like we are still there | 13:01 |
| NeonLicht | Same here, Necrodiver, never used sysctl before now wither. | 13:02 |
| NeonLicht | Yes, lts-, we are definitely still there. At least Necrodiver and I seem to be! | 13:02 |
| Necrodiver | Well my only reason is that i never used sysctl ;) | 13:02 |
| Necrodiver | so i sorta have an excuse ;) | 13:03 |
| NeonLicht | Same excuse for me, then. :-) | 13:03 |
| Necrodiver | i honestly didnt use systemctl much either since i moved from mint to refracta, but i kept forgetting service when i needed it lol | 13:03 |
| NeonLicht | I moved from Debian pre-SystemD to Devuan after 23 years using Debian. | 13:04 |
| Necrodiver | im newer to linux, i moved over around 3 years ago iirc | 13:05 |
| djph | only been using linux for 15-20 years ... but ... yeah, Debian was a long-time distro | 13:06 |
| Necrodiver | but ive been using computers nearly daily since windows 3.1 and ms-dos 5.X. The whole reason i moved to linux was because of cli. I missed the cli stuff | 13:06 |
| NeonLicht | I considered moving all boxes to OpenBSD and/or FreeBSD, but I like btrfs too much to let it go. Haha | 13:07 |
| Necrodiver | a friend of mine has been saying the same thing lol | 13:07 |
| Necrodiver | for me its more like ditching gnome when they decide to go full wayland | 13:08 |
| Necrodiver | so im switching between xfce and TDE | 13:08 |
| Necrodiver | since im not fully used to the kde way of things yet | 13:08 |
| NeonLicht | I ditched Gnome when it started running poorly on 256MB RAM. LOL | 13:08 |
| Necrodiver | lol | 13:08 |
| Necrodiver | TDE is cool btw | 13:09 |
| NeonLicht | I use Notion as my window manager. | 13:09 |
| Necrodiver | never heard of that, but i havent gone full minimalist yet lol | 13:09 |
| Necrodiver | the one thing using TDE though is that for someone who is "newer" to linux, it does require a bit of work to learn and figure out how to do stuff because its SOOOOOOO bare bones if you install TDE-base | 13:10 |
| NeonLicht | Well, if you like the CLI and you like non overlaping windows (frames in Notion terminology) you'll fall in love with Notion. | 13:10 |
| Necrodiver | i try to run as much as i can through cli, i could easily use the gooey for a lot of things, but i force myself to be in terminal as much as I can | 13:11 |
| Necrodiver | and to improve my browsing, i recently installed vimium as well | 13:12 |
| NeonLicht | I rather use Uzbl and Surf for browsing. | 13:13 |
| Necrodiver | ive heard of surf, isnt it some text based browser? | 13:15 |
| NeonLicht | No, it isn't. It's WebKit based, as is Uzbl. | 13:16 |
| Necrodiver | oh | 13:16 |
| Necrodiver | iirc thats what pale moon uses | 13:16 |
| Necrodiver | i forgot though | 13:16 |
| NeonLicht | That's what Chromium, Chorme, Safari, etc, etc, etc, use. | 13:17 |
| Necrodiver | oh | 13:17 |
| Necrodiver | then its not what pale moon uses, as its based on furfox | 13:18 |
| NeonLicht | Basically everything except for Micro$soft and Mozilla use WebKit, I think. | 13:18 |
| Necrodiver | i main with librewolf, with firefox esr for the spyware sites like youtube or yahoo or whatnot | 13:19 |
| Necrodiver | then for testing sites i use icecat | 13:20 |
| Necrodiver | and for other stuff i use pale moon | 13:20 |
| Necrodiver | the downside to pale moon is no vimium | 13:20 |
| Necrodiver | and some weird sites wont work right because google | 13:22 |
| ___used | also add net.ipv6.conf.all.autoconf = 0 to syctl.conf ... | 13:57 |
| ___used | I see even with ipv6 off and rebooted one has in lsmod: nf_defrag_ipv6 | 13:58 |
| ___used | I hope that is not a hole. | 13:58 |
| NeonLicht | Thank you, ___used | 14:01 |
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