targz | Hi all, does anyone know the possibility of donating with cryptos to Devuan? I know it can be done to Dyne, but I don't know if it finally reaches Devuan in particular | 01:00 |
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plasma41 | targz: https://www.devuan.org/os/donate.html makes no mention of cryptocurrency donations. I'd ask jaromil, but he not online right now. | 01:07 |
golinux | targz: Just notate that it is for Devuan. We stopped doing crypto years ago. | 01:08 |
golinux | You can find donation details here: https://www.devuan.org/os/donate | 01:08 |
targz | OK, thanks. A shame, from Argentina and without a credit card it was the only option I used to donate | 01:11 |
brocashelm | would be nice to accept cash donations | 02:24 |
golinux | brocashelm: Come to the next conference! | 02:45 |
NeverAlone | <gnarface> "try "apt-get --no-install-..." <- I don't have any updates | 13:11 |
Wonka | *sigh* | 19:23 |
Wonka | gnuplot-data (= 5.4.4+dfsg1-1) (UNAVAILABLE) | 19:23 |
plasma41 | Wonka: That appears to be an issue with upstream Debian. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnuplot/ shows 5.4.4+dfsg1-1 versions of all the arch-any binary packages for the gnuplot source package, but all the arch-all 5.4.4+dfsg1-1 packages are missing. | 20:14 |
plasma41 | Wonka: Try filing an Debian bug report | 20:14 |
plasma41 | Wonka: 5.4.4+dfsg1-1 was added to unstable 10 days, so this doesn't look like a simple mirror synchronization issue. | 20:16 |
rwp | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnuplot | 20:29 |
rwp | If I read that right (confidence low) then it was a source upload to unstable that failed to build. | 20:33 |
rwp | https://ci.debian.net/packages/g/gnuplot/unstable/amd64/ | 20:33 |
Wonka | mmh... | 20:35 |
plasma41 | Possibly (again, confidence low) related to https://bugs.debian.org/1016323 | 20:38 |
devuanconsumer | How do I go about keeping a couple of specific kernals without having to deal with them being uninstalled when I type sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade? Thank you! | 21:16 |
devuanconsumer | Also how do I understall a specific kernal | 21:16 |
devuanconsumer | it seems 5.10.0.17 isn't work | 21:17 |
devuanconsumer | ing well | 21:17 |
rwp | devuanconsumer, Easiest is to mark the kernel package as "held" with "apt-mark hold linux-image-5.18.0-4-amd64" or other specific version. | 21:19 |
rwp | Perhaps also holding the linux-image-amd64 (or other arch) package as the upgrade of that one is what pulls in the specific versioned one. | 21:20 |
rwp | Also if you have very new hardware and the Stable kernel is not sufficient the consider installing a Backports kernel. | 21:21 |
rwp | Backports and other suites are referenced here: https://beta.devuan.org/os/packages | 21:22 |
treeofknowledge | can u repeat that | 21:23 |
treeofknowledge | i had to log in with different account lol | 21:23 |
rwp | Easiest is to mark the kernel package as "held" with "apt-mark hold linux-image-5.18.0-4-amd64" or other specific version. | 21:23 |
rwp | Packages marked hold will not be automatically offered for upgrade or removal. | 21:23 |
treeofknowledge | thank you! | 21:26 |
treeofknowledge | whats the command t oremove a specific package | 21:27 |
rwp | apt-get remove specificpackage | 21:27 |
rwp | Though if there are config files in /etc those are defined as a "conffile" and not removed with a "remove". | 21:28 |
rwp | Those are removed with a "purge". As in "aptget purge specificpackage". That removes the /etc conffiles. | 21:28 |
rwp | To list packages that have been removed but not purged: dpkg -l | grep ^rc | 21:30 |
treeofknowledge | ty | 21:30 |
rwp | I pretty much want to recommend always using "purge" as that keeps things clean. | 21:31 |
rwp | But there is a reason for the removed/conffile state. | 21:32 |
rwp | People install something. Then they spend time and effort configuring it in some file in /etc/something.conf and a purge would destroy that work. | 21:32 |
rwp | So by default it is preserved with a remove unless explicitly requested with a purge. | 21:32 |
rwp | So... It becomes more complicated. | 21:32 |
rwp | I recommend installing git and etckeeper to automatically track the contents of /etc for all files there. | 21:33 |
rwp | And then always purge. Because if something is needed from /etc in the future then it can be retrieved from git version control. | 21:33 |
trklntry | Hello does devuan have an RSS feed to follow what's going on? | 21:33 |
rwp | "What's going on" is a very large area! Personally I suggest subscribing to the mailing lists. https://www.devuan.org/os/community | 21:36 |
rwp | Specifically the announcement mailing list. https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/devuan-announce | 21:36 |
treeofknowledge | ok thank you rwp | 21:37 |
brocashelm | devuan also has a twitter account you can use with rss | 21:37 |
brocashelm | https://nitter.net/DevuanOrg/rss | 21:37 |
brocashelm | and for the forums (dev1galaxy): https://dev1galaxy.org/extern.php?action=feed&type=atom | 21:38 |
brocashelm | but rwp's suggestion is the best one | 21:38 |
treeofknowledge | Thank you again. | 21:46 |
treeofknowledge | How do I fix this error :/ | 21:46 |
treeofknowledge | when updating and upgrading | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | Setting up mullvad-vpn (2022.4) ... | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | dpkg: error processing package mullvad-vpn (--configure): | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | installed mullvad-vpn package post-installation script subprocess returned erro | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | r exit status 127 | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | Errors were encountered while processing: | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | mullvad-vpn | 21:47 |
treeofknowledge | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 21:47 |
brocashelm | is this an external package? | 21:49 |
trklntry | But yes thank you rwp and brocashelm. I primarily just want to try and stay updated with updates, or anything else significant | 21:49 |
fsmithred | treeofknowledge, are you running beowulf or chimaera? | 21:51 |
fsmithred | dowload page says it works on Debian 10 (Buster=Beowulf) | 21:52 |
fsmithred | apt show mullvad-vpn will show Depends and Recommends. Check versions. | 21:54 |
brocashelm | turns out it "needs" systemd | 21:54 |
brocashelm | it calls for systemctl | 21:54 |
brocashelm | i tested installing this on ceres | 21:55 |
brocashelm | >/var/lib/dpkg/info/mullvad-vpn.postinst: line 6: systemctl: command not found | 21:55 |
fsmithred | aha! | 21:55 |
brocashelm | if you are not concerned about using a gui, openvpn would be ideal and you can do it from cli | 21:57 |
brocashelm | there's also riseup-vpn which has worked for me | 21:57 |
fsmithred | also wireguard in the repo | 21:57 |
brocashelm | treeofknowledge: https://riseup.net/en/vpn | 21:58 |
brocashelm | i figured an easy "hack" on the systemctl errors by copying the binary to /usr/sbin (i think), and deb packages "needing" systemd would work | 21:59 |
brocashelm | radeon-profile for example was that way | 21:59 |
brocashelm | i needed a good gpu fan control program, so i used it until i got shown corectrl (much better and no systemd "dependencies") | 21:59 |
fsmithred | So it turns out that I already have riseup-vpn installed, and I forget how to use it. | 22:08 |
treeofknowledge | the think is it never did this before | 22:27 |
treeofknowledge | im running chimera | 22:27 |
treeofknowledge | it started doing this after the update | 22:27 |
treeofknowledge | i run a separate command to run the systemd component | 22:27 |
brocashelm | did you remove mullvad-vpn? | 22:28 |
treeofknowledge | i did. | 22:28 |
treeofknowledge | purged it | 22:28 |
treeofknowledge | then installed the update | 22:28 |
brocashelm | can you paste the error and give the link? | 22:32 |
brocashelm | use paste.debian.net | 22:32 |
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