libera/#devuan/ Friday, 2022-09-09

GoatAvenger'o' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi_nFz1CJSI&t=1114s <--Iowa Swine Day 2022: Agriculture at the End of the World11:49
GoatAvengerpretty interesting..11:49
onefangAnd off topic.11:57
GoatAvengeroops, wrong channel12:02
GoatAvengermy bad12:02
hexagonwinHello. I'm currently using Devuan 4.0 Chimaera on my AMD64 laptop. I did not do apt update or apt upgrade for some time, but today when I tried doing apt update, I get errors of saying "An error occurred during the signature verification. .... EXPKEYSIG BB23C00C61FC752C Devuan Repository (Amprolla3 on Nemesis)"12:06
hexagonwinCould someone please help me on solving this problem?12:06
debdogapt-get update keyring errors? See https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=521312:07
hexagonwindebdog Thanks a lot, that solved the problem.12:09
debdogyw12:09
Weeezysi there a way to fix this? trying to install playonlinux: playonlinux : Depends: python-wxgtk2.8 but it is not installable or15:37
Weeezy                        python-wxgtk3.0 but it is not installable15:37
WeeezyE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.15:37
JorilWeeezy: on which distro?15:39
gnarfacelooks like 2.8 and 3.0 were last seen in beowulf15:40
gnarfacepackage name may have changed after that15:41
gnarfacei'd guess you need a newer version of playonlinux for current stable15:41
rrqhexagonwin: please try updating again; you might have caught the "mirror updating window"15:42
WeeezyI'm on v415:43
gnarfacehttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=%5Epython.*wxgtk.*&x=submit15:44
Weeezythere's only one search result for playonlinux, perhaps I'm not pointing towards the right repository? but that seems unlikely, updates occur normally15:50
eyalrozQuestion about bluetooth, and the UI for managing bluetooth devices (blueman-applet, blueman-tray)...15:54
eyalrozWhen I try to start it, I'm presented with a prompt (about enabling bluetooth first); and once that's take care of - the UI disappears. Restarting it does nothing. Or rather,15:55
eyalrozI see my panel kind of twitch, with something appearing and immediately disappearing15:55
WeeezyI had added a repository for playonlinux that pointed to a stretch version, not available for devuan apparently.17:00
Weeezyany input on details about why playonlinux is not in the repositories for devuan?17:15
Weeezyor at least it doesn't currently show17:21
joergre /topic it should turn into a non-issue soon.17:32
nemoWeeezy: hmmm I put that on the living room devuan machine a long time ago (turned out to not work quite as nicely as I hoped with games I was using, so I ended up customising it all myself anyway)18:24
nemonow how did I do that...18:24
* nemo connects to that machine18:24
Weeezyone time setups are hard to remember18:33
Weeezyi found where I had made a contrib repo from debian stretch and just changed it to debian buster and playonlinux installed18:34
Weeezythe program I installed threw a handful of warnings but it did run so hopefully will perform well enough for my needs18:35
nemoWeeezy: good to know.  does playonlinux have proton as an option these days?18:42
* joerg idly mentions https://www.devuan.org/os/packages >>Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.<<18:43
joergthat's not ideology, it's just because the way devuan amprolla works. Other similar repos may cause conflicts aiui18:47
joerghttps://pkginfo.devuan.org/cgi-bin/policy-query.html?c=package&q=playonlinux&x=submit18:50
Weeezywhat to do with this link?18:51
Weeezywhat is it telling me18:51
joergit tells me that >playonlinux is not in the repositories for devuan<< is probably not true18:52
joergor I lost context18:56
ham5urgWhen I do something like "debootstrap chimaera /tmp/os https://mirror.koddos.net/devuan/devuan" I got a "E: Couldn't find these debs: ca-certificates". I invoked debootstrap from the current stable iso. What am I missing?19:01
ham5urgIt's "ca-certificates/stable,now 20210119 all [installed]" with the current iso.19:02
ham5urgThis worked http://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/19:08
joergham5urg: many thanks for the report. probably the mirrors are not all up to date yet19:16
rwpI see "playonlinux" as available in the "merged" suite okay on ceres, daedalus, chimaera, beowulf.19:20
rwpI tried an apt-get install -s (simulate only) playonlinux and didn't see any likely problems.19:20
nemoguess that's how I installed it last time then ☺19:25
Weeezywhat would stop me from seeing playonlinux19:27
WeeezyI've looked at my sources19:27
Weeezythey appear to be correct19:27
Weeezyis there a master copy I can compare?19:27
rwpDoes "apt-get update" give any errors?  If there are errors then those will filter sources out of the result.19:30
bb|hcbWeeezy: do you have contrib enabled in /etc/apt/sources.list?19:32
rwpWhat does "apt-cache policy playonlinux" say?  Here is a paste of it from chimaera: https://paste.debian.net/plain/125333419:32
rwpAnd here is one from ceres unstable: https://paste.debian.net/plain/125333319:33
WeeezyI'm pointing at debian.org bullseye at the moment in sources.list.d19:37
Weeezylet me check the pastebin19:37
bb|hcbWeeezy: mixing devuan and debian sources is recipe for a disaster or just a reinstall19:39
WeeezyI don't have an entry in my sources.list with contrib flag, is that what I'm missing?19:41
WeeezyI do not get any errors on update19:43
rwpYes.  You need contrib for it.  Since the package is in contrib.  Must be due to license reasons.19:50
rwpFlipping back and forth between devuan and debian when on debian will likely pull in systemd at some point.19:51
Weeezyok, it looks like I can just add contrib non-free to each of the thre main entries in my sources.list19:54
* joerg again mentions https://www.devuan.org/os/packages >>Devuan package repositories are exclusive. Other repositories, including Debian, Ubuntu, Mint etc, should NOT be used directly.<<19:56
WeeezyI've deleted the debian reference19:57
Weeezywith the changes to sources.list playonlinux shows up now19:58
fluffywolfI've had good luck using small single-thing repositories intended for debian, that only have packages for some specific programs.19:58
Weeezythis did work from the debian contrib source. but I've removed it and added the contrib to my sources list and done an update, there were no changes or errors so I guess things are good20:14
Weeezy.20:15
Weeezysystemd barriers back in place20:16

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