| dan9er[m] | I'm having some weird network issues on my Surface Laptop 1 with Chimaera installed on it.... (full message at https://libera.ems.host/_matrix/media/r0/download/libera.chat/e745eebc81b15e0483e1b1914bdb127a441bc586) | 06:44 |
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| rwp | dan9er[m], From the paste information I am confident the problem is DNS on your laptop is messed up. | 07:39 |
| rwp | Start with "cat /etc/resolv.conf" to see the start of how DNS is configured there. | 07:39 |
| rwp | There should be one "search" statement to set the domain name and DNS search path. | 07:40 |
| rwp | There should be between 1 and 3 nameserver lines configuring nameservers. | 07:40 |
| Guest13 | Does devuan have an extended LTS option to where a release can be supported up till 5 years or later? | 17:20 |
| fsmithred | Guest13, we rely on debian LTS. Mostly it's the kernel that gets the long support. | 17:23 |
| fsmithred | and we don't fork that. | 17:24 |
| monkeybusiness | It's a shame so many of debian packages are dependent on soystemd. I happen to be on Artix and I have come across a number of packages missing over its Arch upstream | 20:31 |
| buZz | monkeybusiness: yeah, on devuan we patch the systemd stuff away | 21:37 |
| buZz | mostly | 21:37 |
| golinux | That is our raison d'etre | 21:42 |
| monkeybusiness | For me the situation around packages has gotten bad enough for me to try FreeBSD. I think FreeBSD is a very decent OS. | 22:01 |
| brocashelm | i think arch sneaks in more systemd stuff than debian, so their devs have to manually rebuild all packages on their repo (hence why it's smaller unless you enable arch repos and aur) | 22:01 |
| brocashelm | devuan uses amprolla, which while 200-300 packages get forked, you can still conveniently install packages from upstream without systemd leaking through | 22:01 |
| brocashelm | monkeybusiness: i could tell you more about that in #devuan-offtopic | 22:02 |
| monkeybusiness | which init system is generally recommended? I understand "anything but soystemd". I happen to use openrc, because it feels somewhat familiar. I also heard good things about runit about it offering better performance at startup | 22:06 |
| rwp | I would say there is no recommendation that you should follow. However sysvinit being the default has the most legacy support while runit and openrc are also very popular. | 22:09 |
| rwp | Note that runit and openrc operate by making use of the existing sysvinit scripts. But the hope is that over time the mix will change. | 22:09 |
| monkeybusiness | (y) | 22:16 |
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