| crhylove | How do I solve pulseaudio being held back in apt? | 12:04 |
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| crhylove | (daedalus) | 12:05 |
| fsmithred | crhylove, 1. don't install it, or 2. add ceres repo and pin it to low priority, then you can selectively install stuff from ceres. | 12:11 |
| crhylove | Got it. I hate pulse, but something I rely on obviously installed it, and now it's being held back. Maybe I'll just leave it be... :/ | 12:12 |
| crhylove | OK, new question: What's the easiest way to install San Andreas from steam? Like what's the best way to install proton? | 12:24 |
| FilipZ1 | Hi! I cannot log in to the system. I think that this may be caused by the badly saved system state, that the system tries to load as soon as I input the login and password. Can I add some option before loading the system, to reset this saved system state, or turn off that functionality? | 12:26 |
| FilipZ1 | I also tried to login as a root user, but with that white and grey display manager(that somehow got changed to this, after I changed Connman to NM) I don't see how I can select the root user, to log in as root. | 12:44 |
| fsmithred | FilipZ1 boot to recovery mode and you will have root in a console | 12:45 |
| fsmithred | not sure what you should do then, but you can do stuff. Make sure you still have free disk space. I've had similar problems when my /home parititon got full. | 12:46 |
| FilipZ1 | What should I do next, with the console? | 12:46 |
| fsmithred | run commands | 12:46 |
| fsmithred | like I said, I'm not sure exactly what you should do | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | you could mess with your user's desktop settings or even move them out of the way to start with defaults. | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | did your display manager get changed? | 12:47 |
| fsmithred | maybe 'dpkg-reconfigure lightdm' | 12:48 |
| FilipZ1 | This doesn't tell much. I would like to clear whatever is used to reload the previous system session, like the opened programs, and the window positions. I think that it may cause the issue. | 12:49 |
| FilipZ1 | As I wrote before. My display manager was changed after I switched from the Connman to the NetworkManager. | 12:50 |
| fsmithred | changed from what to what? And what desktop are you using? | 12:51 |
| fsmithred | as root... | 12:51 |
| fsmithred | adduser testuser | 12:51 |
| fsmithred | then try logging in as testuser | 12:51 |
| fsmithred | if that works, then it's something in user's settings. | 12:52 |
| FilipZ1 | It was in a blue, default motive I think, and got changed to the half white and half gray, with the password field on the middle. It looks more primitive, and somehow bugged now. | 12:54 |
| fsmithred | look in /etc/init.d/ for services that end in dm | 12:55 |
| fsmithred | like lightdm, xdm, gdm, lxdm, sddm, or maybe slim. | 12:55 |
| Sompi | I reinstalled Devuan to my server and it somehow installed also the graphical desktop environment (XFCE4) even though I clearly unselected it from the install program | 12:56 |
| Sompi | No wonder the install took so much time | 12:56 |
| fsmithred | Sompi, there are two boxes to un-check: xfce and desktop... | 12:56 |
| fsmithred | purge task-destkop and task-whatever-desktop | 12:57 |
| FilipZ1 | I can see sddm here | 13:02 |
| fsmithred | what desktop? | 13:03 |
| FilipZ1 | What do you mean by desktop? | 13:03 |
| fsmithred | xfce, kde, gnome, lxdm, lxqt, mate | 13:04 |
| FilipZ1 | I have used xfce, but there was alsi an option to mark plasma. | 13:05 |
| fsmithred | are both installed? If so, which one do you normally use? | 13:05 |
| FilipZ1 | XFCE. Basically only XFCE | 13:06 |
| fsmithred | so did you check the box for plasma? | 13:08 |
| FilipZ1 | No. | 13:09 |
| FilipZ1 | Should I do dpkg-reconfigure sddm? | 13:09 |
| fsmithred | I don't think that does anything | 13:10 |
| fsmithred | maybe install lightdm and remove sddm. | 13:10 |
| FilipZ1 | Apt-get lightdm ? | 13:11 |
| fsmithred | apt-get install lightdm | 13:11 |
| fsmithred | or apt install lightm sddm- | 13:11 |
| fsmithred | dpkg -l | grep task | 13:12 |
| Sompi | fsmithred: I just started reinstalling the whole thing again. I want to see if it really happens again ( a bug) or if I just did something wrong without noticing it | 13:12 |
| fsmithred | Sompi, if it's a bug, you're the first one to hit it. | 13:13 |
| Sompi | Yes | 13:13 |
| Sompi | The install should not take long if it doesn't install the graphical environment | 13:13 |
| fsmithred | FilipZ1, which task-* packages are installed? | 13:15 |
| FilipZ1 | Nothing changed yet. I have to connect to the internet | 13:17 |
| FilipZ1 | How can I connect to the wireless network here? | 13:18 |
| fsmithred | wpasupplicant | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | and I don't know it to guide you through it | 13:20 |
| fsmithred | boot live usb and chroot the system | 13:21 |
| fsmithred | or... | 13:21 |
| fsmithred | disble sddm, boot to console, log in as user, run startx | 13:22 |
| fsmithred | update-rc.d -f sddm remove | 13:22 |
| fsmithred | then reboot | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | log in as user, run startx | 13:23 |
| FilipZ1 | Will the second option allow me to load the desktop, omitting the display manager? | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | that's what startx is for | 13:23 |
| fsmithred | actually you don't have to reboot - just run 'init 1' | 13:24 |
| fsmithred | and then ctrl-d | 13:24 |
| FilipZ1 | Alright. I will try that. :) | 13:24 |
| FilipZ1 | Should I do this here, in the maintenance mode? | 13:25 |
| fsmithred | update-rc.d yes | 13:25 |
| fsmithred | then reboot to normal | 13:25 |
| fsmithred | you should get a console login screen (black with white text) | 13:26 |
| fsmithred | oh, instead of reboot you could do 'init 2' | 13:26 |
| FilipZ1 | So first "disable sddm"? | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | yeah, remove it with the command | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | update-rc.d -f sddm remove | 13:27 |
| fsmithred | init 2 | 13:27 |
| FilipZ1 | What init 2? | 13:29 |
| fsmithred | a command that brings you back to normal runlevel | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | you should then be able to log in as user and run startx | 13:30 |
| fsmithred | if you prefer, you can reboot | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | just takes longer | 13:31 |
| FilipZ1 | but you mentioned init 1 before. Which one, then? | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | not sure if init 1 works from recovery mode | 13:31 |
| fsmithred | run the command 'runlevel' and it will tell you which runlevel you are at | 13:32 |
| fsmithred | I expect it'll say S or 1 | 13:32 |
| FilipZ1 | "N S" | 13:33 |
| fsmithred | so... try init 1 | 13:33 |
| FilipZ1 | It killed some processes | 13:34 |
| fsmithred | and it should have instructions at the end. | 13:35 |
| fsmithred | ctrl-d | 13:35 |
| FilipZ1 | Alright. I am logged as the root now | 13:37 |
| fsmithred | after ctrl-d? | 13:37 |
| FilipZ1 | yes | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | cool | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | exit | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | then log in as user | 13:38 |
| fsmithred | then run startx | 13:38 |
| FilipZ1 | "unable to write authority file ..." | 13:40 |
| FilipZ1 | Sudo, then? | 13:40 |
| fsmithred | no | 13:40 |
| fsmithred | what are you trying to do? | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | you should have gotten to a console login screen | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | then log in as user | 13:41 |
| FilipZ1 | I did so | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | whoami | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | will tell you who you are logged in as | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | anyway, run... | 13:41 |
| fsmithred | df -h | 13:42 |
| FilipZ1 | Yes. My default user account | 13:42 |
| fsmithred | cool. Tell me if your disk is full. | 13:42 |
| FilipZ1 | It was about a 1gb left when I checked yesterday. I don't remember uploading anything m, but there is no space left, now | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | so then you need to start deleting some big files | 13:44 |
| fsmithred | or moving them to another partition | 13:45 |
| FilipZ1 | Will "560M" be enough? | 14:00 |
| fsmithred | ignore MB or GB | 14:00 |
| fsmithred | get it below 95% full | 14:00 |
| fsmithred | the filesystem needs 5% for its own use | 14:02 |
| FilipZ1 | Its hard to do without seeing what exactly I could remove | 14:02 |
| fsmithred | du -Sh | 14:03 |
| FilipZ1 | It worked with just 1Gb a while before though. That would be less than 1% of that partition. | 14:03 |
| fsmithred | you might get away with less than 5% | 14:04 |
| fsmithred | enough to get into desktop and do a proper fix | 14:04 |
| FilipZ1 | The wireless driver daemon started to spam the error messages, what makes it not possible to write commands now | 14:09 |
| fsmithred | close your eyes while typing the command | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | I am not kidding. | 14:14 |
| fsmithred | maybe alt-F2 to a different console will help | 14:15 |
| EmanuelLoos[m] | Has anyone in here succeeded in installing CODE (Collabora Online Developer Edition) on Devuan? The package distributed for Debian depends on systemd. | 15:40 |
| tonie | Hey guys. I need support about netinstaller ISO of Chimaera 4. Is it safety to use it for clear installation or I have to use Live version? As I see Netinstaller is uploaded last year and Live installer just few weeks ago. | 17:17 |
| fsmithred | tonie, netinstaller will get you the latest versions of software in the repo | 17:19 |
| fsmithred | in chimaera, that is | 17:19 |
| fsmithred | the live isos got replaced because of a bug in the live installer | 17:19 |
| FilipZ1 | fsmithred: Sorry that I write again only now. I had to quit before. You mentioned a "startx" before, yet you wrote me to clean some disk space after I logged. Do I need this free space to use the startx correctly? | 19:18 |
| fsmithred | FilipZ1, you need free space to do anything, including log in. | 19:20 |
| fsmithred | if you have some free space, then your display manager might work. In that case, you won't need startx. | 19:21 |
| FilipZ1 | It turned on with that little space I made before, using startx. | 19:24 |
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