| NeverAlone | modprobe iwlwifi? | 00:03 |
|---|---|---|
| NeverAlone | Oh yesh | 00:04 |
| NeverAlone | * Oh yeah | 00:05 |
| rwp | I think the difference between "insmod filename" and "modprobe modulename" is what is actually the problem FilipZ1 was experiencing. | 02:04 |
| * u-amarsh04 wonders how messed up things need to be before even the magic sysreq reboot key sequence fails | 03:26 | |
| xrogaan | Unpacking dbus (1.12.24-0+deb11u1) over (1.12.20-2+devuan2) ... | 08:51 |
| xrogaan | is this a problem? | 08:51 |
| Joril | xrogaan: Not an expert, but that doesn't look good | 09:04 |
| xrogaan | dbus was forked by devuan, forgot why. | 09:05 |
| brocashelm | are you using a debian repository containing that version of dbus? | 09:05 |
| xrogaan | yeah, security. | 09:06 |
| brocashelm | otherwise, i always get the forked versions of packages | 09:06 |
| brocashelm | for testing? | 09:06 |
| brocashelm | if so, then i would try apt pinning to prefer the devuan versions | 09:07 |
| Joril | Just asked on #devuan-dev, let's see | 09:07 |
| xrogaan | brocashelm: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2022/msg00219.html | 09:07 |
| xrogaan | Joril: they're usually right here too :) | 09:07 |
| brocashelm | i just updated and i have the 1.14.4-1devuan1 version | 09:09 |
| brocashelm | on ceres/unstable | 09:09 |
| Unit193 | What's the top two entries in /usr/share/doc/dbus/changelog.gz (or changelog.Debian.gz) say? | 09:09 |
| xrogaan | I'm running stable. | 09:09 |
| brocashelm | then that's a problem | 09:09 |
| brocashelm | i thought this was on testing | 09:10 |
| xrogaan | Unit193: IDK why you ask -> dbus (1.12.24-0+deb11u1) bullseye-security; urgency=medium | 09:10 |
| u-amarsh04 | I had some problems with dbus packages at 1.14.4-1devuan1 and running a Linus git head kernel so I've gone back to 1.14.2-1 (non-Devuan as I don't know the Devuan snapshot repository address) | 09:18 |
| u-amarsh04 | doing a restart into a newer kernel so if replying wait until I get back in | 09:18 |
| u-amarsh04 | back with bleeding edge kernel and non-Devuan 1.14.2-1 dbus | 09:27 |
| xrogaan | I believe the fork is just about machine-id: https://bugs.devuan.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=304 | 09:37 |
| u-amarsh04 | thanks xrogaan | 09:39 |
| xrogaan | I'm not sure though. | 09:39 |
| xrogaan | Could also be to make extra sure that systemd is gone. | 09:39 |
| u-amarsh04 | although I normally run unstable, I'll avoid dbus 1.14.4-1devuan1 | 09:43 |
| xrogaan | I have to sleep. If possible, could somebody post the dbus business on the ML? My brain is really starting to fail. | 09:43 |
| FilipZ1 | So this issue happened again, and trying to fix it at least temporarily, I unloaded the iwlwifi and one somehow related driver. First, I tried modprobe -r iwlwifi, and got an error saying that it is in use, so I tried with rmmod iwlwifi, and then I got an answer that it is in use by iwlmvm, so I did rmmod iwlmvm succesfully, and then rmmod iwlwifi. | 10:31 |
| FilipZ1 | Then I tried to load it again with modprobe. First with iwlmvm, and then iwlwifi. Then I tried ifup wlan0, but then the same error as before got returned. Therefore I have 2 questions: 1. What more could I do to functionally reset it, without restarting the entire system, so the effect could be the same, and I could at least temporarily resolve | 10:31 |
| FilipZ1 | this issue with commands? 2. What exactly is for, the iwlmvm driver, described as "The new Intel(R) wireless AGN driver for Linux"? I tried to search info about this, but failed. | 10:31 |
| ___used | A 5.x kernel appeared in backports for Beowulf this week, then disappeared. What's the story behind that, besides it lit up a lot of packages red in aptitude when selected for upgrade. I deselected it. | 17:47 |
| ___used | ? | 18:39 |
| ___used | It was not the Intel GPU/display killer 5.19.12 right? | 18:40 |
| ___used | https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/06/intel_linux_gpu_laptop_displays/ ref: | 18:40 |
| onefang | Also reported by other tech news sites. | 18:41 |
| ___used | I was asking about the vanishing kernel in Beowulf backports, was it this one or another? It was 5.19.x for sure. | 18:41 |
| onefang | Dunno, I didn't see it. | 18:41 |
| onefang | It would have come and gone on the Debian infrastructure side of things, which I don't have visibility into. | 18:42 |
| lts | Nothing here https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/linux/news/ | 18:50 |
| onefang | Though I'm on chimaera, using chimaera-backport kernel, which is currently 5.18.16-1~bpo11+1 so I doubt beowulf-backport would be getting 5.19.12. | 18:53 |
| ___used | It might have been 5.19.12 | 19:01 |
| Rosie60 | Hi, wit debian going non-free will devuan remain free as in freedom? | 20:01 |
| Rosie60 | *by deafult | 20:01 |
| Xenguy | Rosie60, Devuan already went over to the dark side = ) | 20:02 |
| Rosie60 | :( | 20:02 |
| Rosie60 | do you mean by live distro | 20:02 |
| Xenguy | If you want to avoid non-free during install, use 'expert' install and you will be given that option | 20:02 |
| fsmithred | nonfree firmware is in the isos. | 20:03 |
| Xenguy | I don't know about Live | 20:03 |
| fsmithred | what Xenguy said | 20:03 |
| fsmithred | the live isos have wireless firmware installed already. There is a script to remove it, and non-free is not in sources.list. | 20:03 |
| Rosie60 | yeah so the option to remove blobs will remain | 20:03 |
| fsmithred | yes | 20:03 |
| Rosie60 | oh that's probably the best option | 20:03 |
| Rosie60 | thx, y'all as community are so useful <3 | 20:04 |
| fsmithred | if it's not included, we get lots of support requests for getting wireless working | 20:04 |
| gnarface | anyone happen to know how to successfully pass a usb device through to a qemu guest? i've got it showing up when i type "info usbhost" at the qemu "monitor" shell but it does not show up in the output of lsusb inside the guest | 21:12 |
| rwp | gnarface, Using libvirt's virt-manager? (It's a menu pick item.) Or doing it completely manually? (No idea.) | 21:44 |
| hagbard | What's the deal with changelog from the devuan repositories? I get "This change is not coming from a source that supports changelogs. Failed to fetch the changelog for libdbus-1-dev URI was empty" when trying to download those with synaptic." | 22:16 |
| ___used | History has been erased ;) | 23:21 |
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