| xisop | is debootstrap a thing in devuan? | 00:33 |
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| divad27182 | yes. I've used it | 00:34 |
| xisop | nice | 00:35 |
| timkenhan | hi all, i was wondering if we can have more uniform domain name for mirror infrastructure like in debian & ubuntu | 08:25 |
| timkenhan | i'm currently working on getting devuan into mx linux and i find this to be a major blocker | 08:25 |
| onefang | timkenhan: What do you mean "more uniform domain name for mirror infrastructure"? | 10:48 |
| onefang | Please consider that Ubuntu is a corporation, and Debian have WAY more volunteers for their infrastracuture than we do. | 10:49 |
| rrq | timkenhan: off-hand I'm guessing you refer to installation media mirrors who have made their own decisions about the exact pathname they use.. like "/" or "/mirrors/pub/devuan-cd" or "/files.devuan.org/" | 10:55 |
| rrq | or maybe you refer to the domain names of the package mirroring hosts? although they are all called "deb.devuan.org"? | 11:07 |
| onefang | That's why I asked for clarification. | 11:07 |
| timkenhan | onefang: something like ftp.<mirror>.debian.org for debian. i'm only referring to ubuntu as yet another example with this uniform domain name for repo. | 11:14 |
| onefang | Package mirrors, ISO mirrors, or both? | 11:16 |
| timkenhan | for this requirement, package mirrors | 11:16 |
| onefang | So why is deb.devuan.org not suitable? And why is that a blocker? | 11:17 |
| timkenhan | because some of the users would desire a server closer to themselves. i am aware that you have a list of mirrors that are publicly available, but they're don't have uniform url format (e.g. ftp.$mirror.debian.org) | 11:23 |
| onefang | Ay you mean the country codes CC.deb.devuan.org that we are currently working on for package mirrors? | 11:24 |
| timkenhan | the reason this is a blocker is because the mx linux maintainers are adamant in having compatibility with antix which has the mirror country selector | 11:24 |
| timkenhan | you have that? | 11:25 |
| onefang | Yep, it even works. Still working on polishing it. | 11:26 |
| timkenhan | damn... i wish i knew this earlier XD | 11:26 |
| timkenhan | thanks y'all | 11:26 |
| onefang | You are welcome. | 11:26 |
| timkenhan | onefang: is there a documentation for this i can use as reference? | 12:00 |
| onefang | Not yet, like I said, we are still polishing it. Not even officially announced yet. | 12:18 |
| onefang | On the other hand, I'm the package mirror herder, so that's more or less official. B-) | 12:19 |
| timkenhan | onefang: i'm honored to have this sneak peek. i hope it'll be official soon :D | 15:17 |
| erick | hi my name is erick i have had an issue with the devuan 4 live iso since v4.0.0 | 21:03 |
| erick | amd64 | 21:04 |
| fsmithred | what issue? | 21:07 |
| fsmithred | erick, ^^^ | 21:07 |
| erick | i cannot install on a uefi machine | 21:07 |
| fsmithred | the desktop-live or minimal-live | 21:08 |
| fsmithred | ? | 21:08 |
| erick | desktop live | 21:08 |
| fsmithred | hm, that usually works. Where does it go wrong? | 21:08 |
| erick | i usually do a clean installation and with gparted | 21:08 |
| erick | a 512M fat32, 1024M swap, the rest as root | 21:09 |
| fsmithred | ok | 21:09 |
| fsmithred | flags boot and bios_grub on the fat32 | 21:09 |
| erick | yes | 21:09 |
| erick | boot esp | 21:10 |
| fsmithred | yeah, sorry. esp. bios_grub is for gtp without efi. | 21:10 |
| erick | ohh | 21:10 |
| fsmithred | but you are booting uefi, right? | 21:10 |
| erick | yes | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | ok so you did it right | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | look at error log | 21:11 |
| erick | its an hp destop | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | oh | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | oops | 21:11 |
| erick | when i rebbot it gives me a blank screen | 21:11 |
| erick | *reboot | 21:11 |
| fsmithred | yeah, the dir name might need to be changed from "devuan" to "windows". I'll find a link on the forum that mentions it. | 21:12 |
| erick | ok | 21:12 |
| erick | ill try the bios_grub | 21:12 |
| fsmithred | meanwhile, look at /var/log/refractainstaller.log (or /home/user/refractainstaller.log) | 21:12 |
| fsmithred | for error messages | 21:12 |
| fsmithred | no, don't use bios grub | 21:12 |
| erick | ok | 21:12 |
| fsmithred | that is for gpt without uefi. That would need to be at least 1MB in size (yes, a megabyte) and not formatted (no filesystem) | 21:13 |
| erick | in the mean time ive been using an mbr partition scheme | 21:13 |
| erick | which is weird because devuan 3 amd64 live desktop worked with boot esp | 21:14 |
| fsmithred | Take a look at this post: https://dev1galaxy.org/viewtopic.php?id=15 | 21:14 |
| erick | OMG | 21:15 |
| erick | had to be hp | 21:15 |
| fsmithred | same model? | 21:15 |
| fsmithred | they aren't all like that. | 21:15 |
| fsmithred | but I don't know what others are like that. | 21:16 |
| erick | hold on mine is | 21:16 |
| erick | hp compaq pro 6300 sff | 21:17 |
| erick | but like i said devuan 3 live amd64 worked but v4 live didn't | 21:18 |
| erick | oh and net install doesn't have that issue with the automatic partitioning | 21:18 |
| fsmithred | if possible, copy the error log to paste.debian.net and give me the link. | 21:18 |
| erick | ok right now i did a net install so when i get a chance ill give you the link for the live iso | 21:19 |
| fsmithred | well your chance might not coincide with my chance. I will be going dark in a day or two and will have only sometimes internet after that. | 21:20 |
| fsmithred | and I'm the guy you want to talk to because I made the live isos. | 21:20 |
| erick | ok ill reach out later | 21:21 |
| erick | i have to go to sleep | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | ok | 21:21 |
| erick | i work graveyard shift | 21:21 |
| fsmithred | ouch | 21:21 |
| erick | thank you for your hard work fsmithred really appreciate your work on devuan live | 21:22 |
| erick | bye | 21:22 |
| fsmithred | bye | 21:22 |
| bb|hcb | Heads up: dev1galaxy.org will be down for a short while | 22:17 |
| bb|hcb | maintenance done, now should be up | 22:37 |
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