libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-11-13

chomwittin a light desktop with only a window manager what would be the common way to automount an external sd card (and generally flash storage) ?15:11
chomwitti find conflicting info on the internet. I found a debian wiki describing autofs service but proposing usbmount ! which seems also not used anymore..15:15
chomwittmaybe udisks ?15:20
gnarfacechomwitt: it's udisks15:27
chomwittgnarface, thanks.15:28
gnarfacewell, udisks will give your window manager's gui mounting tools (if furnished) access, then it's up to you and their feature set to automount15:28
gnarfacepersonally though if i was going light i'd skip that all and manually mount stuff by terminal15:28
gnarfaceor just hardcode the automount into /etc/fstab15:29
gnarfacehow practical that might be kinda depends on the use case15:30
chomwittgnarface, i did that . and the closest i got to auto is mount -a and having uuid in /etc/fstab . but because i usually plug in external flash i wanted it to happen without any intervention by me.15:31
gnarfacewell udisks2 should do the trick but you might also need to add a optional window manager package or module or something15:33
gnarfacedepends on the WM15:33
chomwittso i think the closest to do this ligthly :-) would be udev rules based. i took a look at that but is used in unison with autofs15:33
chomwitti have awesome so my little experience with it so far makes me guess that will need a related addon.15:36
chomwitti mean awesome with udisks15:36
chomwittand its confusing to read many alternatives and new ways to do a use case and some tagged as depracated and some leading to dead ends . i mean why for example udev rules and autofs wouldnt be a good TUI level and ligthlevel good solution ?15:39
gnarfacehmm15:41
gnarfaceyou can probably do it with a custom udev rule though15:41
chomwittif the alternative is udisks + an awesome addon i'll give udey a try15:42
chomwittalthough i have to see how it fits with autofs15:43
chomwittso for the moment i'll try https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs15:47
fsmithredchomwitt, in my systems that use openbox, I do it with pmount and spacefm.16:02
fsmithredI plug in and then have to click in spacefm. There might be a way to get it to automount.16:02
fsmithredDevices, Settings, Automount (in spacefm)16:04
chomwittthanks. i'll look on spacefm also16:05
chomwittfsmithred, spacefm indeed mounted a sd by just clicking in the device menu! cool.16:36
chomwittstrange i didnt even know spacefm exists!16:41
ribcagehello, when I try to create a VPN connection, the list is empty. XFCE Chimaera 4.016:51
ribcage"you may not have the correct VPN plugin installed"... what is even that16:53
ribcage_Now sftp:// works in the Thunar file manager, after installing gvfs-backends and gvfs-fuse. Installing them from the USB stick that the OS was installed from was a major pain, I had to add it as a file: repository in sources.list, and add [ allow-insecure=yes ] or something like that... And I had to remount it to a path without spaces because otherwise apt-get would complain about two slashes are some crap like that.17:11
ribcage_for nfs:// to work, I had to install nfs-common. Strange how it's not installed by default...17:12
ribcage_There is system-wide screen tearing, where the line is partly diagonal then becomes horizontal, never seen anything like that before. Happens in Firefox and the Parole player17:13
gandhii_soo...  currently on chimera..  wondering which would be riskier... changing my sources.list to ceres or daedulus?22:47
phoggunstable is always either the same risk or more risk22:49
gandhii_so.. daedulus then?22:50
gandhii_how far along is the daedulus development?22:50
fsmithredgandhii_, debian has not yet frozen bookworm, so there are a lot of changes.23:00
fsmithredyou get fixes (and breakage) faster in ceres.23:00
fsmithredset sources for both daedalus and ceres and pin ceres to a lot priority so you can selectively install the fixes when you need them. (When you can't wait a week for them to move down to daedalus.)23:01
Unit193A fair number have autopkgtests, that's 2 days rather than 5. :323:02
Unit193Testing is nice to protect you via autopkgtests, installability tests, and protects from transitions.23:03

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