sfox | What is the reccomending way to setup high-availibility networking to a Devuan server/ | 03:45 |
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sfox | ? | 03:45 |
sfox | Devuan cluster node | 03:45 |
gnarface | sfox: i don't think it's different from debian | 04:00 |
gnarface | try haproxy maybe | 04:01 |
gnarface | there's probably other approaches too | 04:01 |
sfox | LACP bonding? | 04:20 |
AlexLikeRock | J/ #devuan-mx | 06:14 |
ribcage | jesus christ, is there no way to change your user password on xfce? | 17:51 |
ribcage | wow... just wow | 17:56 |
ribcage | i wonder if this is just a devuan thing or if debian is like this. This makes the OS pretty much unusable | 17:57 |
tux12 | ribcage: looks like you just need to install gnome-system-tools (found here https://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=6251 the post is old but the package is still available in debian 11). Didn't try it out. | 18:03 |
rwp | ribcage, XFCE is a Desktop Environment. A DE is not an operating system. A DE runs on an OS. This is not a Devuan or Debian thing. | 18:10 |
rwp | The standard way to change passwords works everywhere. "passwd". It will ask you for your old password. Then the new one. | 18:10 |
ribcage | yeah and what about someone who is not a hacker? | 18:11 |
ribcage | and just want to change their password because somebody learned about it | 18:11 |
rwp | Hacker? People who change their passwords are hackers? | 18:12 |
ribcage | people who use the command line are | 18:12 |
ribcage | to ordinary people, they certainly are | 18:12 |
FatPhil | "people believe that, therefore it's a fact" | 18:13 |
rwp | Here we are in IRC and probably most of us are using the keyboard. I guess all of us here on IRC are by that definition expert hackers. Because we can type. | 18:13 |
ribcage | yeah but i might like to install devuan for someone else who is not as good at computers as i am. Well, I'll try that gnome-system-tools thing | 18:14 |
rwp | In any case... Providing a graphical way to change a password would be a Desktop Environment thing. XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon, others, in that realm. | 18:15 |
Oldmoss | Well, I have been on IRC since around 1995. On a Mac. Installed Devuan around 2016 and is using both now. | 18:18 |
Oldmoss | But the terminal still frightens me .... | 18:19 |
FatPhil | anything apart from terminals frighten me | 18:24 |
ribcage | Ok, I had to install gnome-system-tools and now I have "Users and Groups" in System tools. It was on the .ISO but not installed by default. There's something seriously wrong either with Debian or Devuan | 18:28 |
fsmithred | ribcage, that would be a result of the xfce4 dependencies. | 18:41 |
fsmithred | or task-xfce-desktop | 18:42 |
rwp | I doubt an "xfce" meta-package wanted to depend upon a "gnome" package. Probably hoping for an xfce-system-tools equivalent. | 18:43 |
fsmithred | there isn't one that I know of | 18:44 |
fsmithred | gnome, kde, mate and lxqt all have their own tools for that | 18:44 |
nemo | huh. odd error I'm not sure if it is devuan's fault or something else | 18:50 |
nemo | I installed mate-desktop-environment and mate-desktop-environment-extras on a VM that had xfce installed | 18:50 |
nemo | I launched tigervnc server to access it in a desktop | 18:50 |
nemo | the mate desktop seems to function more or less normally, but if I fire up mate-terminal it exits with the error | 18:50 |
nemo | "Failed to connect to the session manager: None of the authentication protocols specified are supported" | 18:51 |
nemo | xfce terminal works fine | 18:51 |
fsmithred | nemo, which display manager are you using? | 18:52 |
fsmithred | check its config file - I think the session manager is set there. | 18:52 |
rwp | On my Chimaera with XFCE I have elogind and libelogind0 installed which perform those functions. Pretty sure those are used for Mate too. | 18:56 |
nemo | ok | 18:58 |
nemo | fsmithred: I didn't think that vnc sessions used that... | 19:00 |
nemo | slim is running on vt7, but that's only for someone connecting from the vm console, not from vnc | 19:01 |
ribcage | "Don't ask for password on login" in gnome-system-tools is not functional. But I made it work again by creating a group called nopasswdlogin and in "/etc/pam.d/slim", just above "@include common-auth", add this line: auth sufficient pam_succeed_if.so user ingroup nopasswdlogin | 19:49 |
ribcage | I don't know if this is the right way to do it, but I think it's alright | 19:50 |
fsmithred | ribcage, I think you can set autologin in slim.conf (/etc/slim.conf or /etc/slim/slim.conf?) | 20:15 |
ribcage | I see. It's /etc/slim.conf. What is meant by "default user"? | 20:18 |
rwp | Regarding XFCE password changing I find this proposal which has not seen an update since 2011. https://wiki.xfce.org/design/xfce4-settings/useraccounts | 20:44 |
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