| onefang | Great, ntfs-3g screwed up, filling my syslog with thousands of lines per second, now its 12 GB of the same error message. lol | 03:45 |
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| onefang | Multitail also soaked up 12 GB of RAM, and also tmux sincu multitail was running in tmux, and then the editor I loaded the 12 GB file into to find where the last proper line was- so I could remove the excess errors. | 04:02 |
| onefang | There's a reason I have 256 GB of RAM, this ain't it. lol | 04:02 |
| onefang | So warning, if you are using ntfs-3g to copy the contents of a large Windows partition elsewhere, keep an eye on things. It was looping on that one file it couldn't copy, instead of just one error and move on. | 04:06 |
| onefang | Are there any alternatives to ntfs-3g? | 04:08 |
| onefang | Coz there's still 100GB of this partition to copy, and I'd rather not spend the next couple of hours holding it's hand in case it screws up again. | 04:09 |
| gnarface | well, you should be able to tell rsyslog to ignore duplicate errors | 04:10 |
| onefang | Will that work on 2 line errors? | 04:10 |
| gnarface | i am not sure | 04:10 |
| gnarface | fwiw emacs can open 12GB files without using 12GB of ram | 04:10 |
| onefang | BUt I still have to notice it's looping and tell it to skip that filre and move on. Or rather not have it error out in the first place. | 04:11 |
| gnarface | there's also ntfs 2g and 4g but it seems like something may be wrong at the host end | 04:11 |
| onefang | Meh most of my 256 GB of RAM wasn't being used. B-) | 04:11 |
| onefang | "host end" in this case being a dd of the Windows partition from my other computer. | 04:12 |
| gnarface | wait i misread ntfs as nfs sorry | 04:13 |
| onefang | Which is currently ntfs-3g mounted on my super desktop, to copy files out of it. | 04:13 |
| gnarface | there's no question fat32 has better support for write operations | 04:14 |
| gnarface | it lacks some features some versions of windows may want though | 04:14 |
| onefang | Alas this is NTFS as installed by Windows 8.1 long ago. | 04:15 |
| gnarface | i honestly don't know if ntfs write support ever moved out of "experimental" | 04:15 |
| gnarface | i'm sure there's some way to suppress the logging entirely but that's not really gonna fix the problem | 04:16 |
| gnarface | and you might be causing permanent filesystem corruption | 04:16 |
| onefang | Well I'm using it for reading to copy the files out, not writing. The destination is ext4. | 04:16 |
| gnarface | oh, well that should be safe | 04:16 |
| onefang | Well safe except I'm missing at least two files. lol | 04:17 |
| gnarface | tried samba? | 04:17 |
| onefang | That would mean actually running Windows, and giving it network access. Ewww | 04:17 |
| gnarface | this is a local image file right? in theory you could spin it up in qemu and restrict its network access to localhost | 04:18 |
| onefang | I have used samba in the past, when working as a sysadmin. | 04:18 |
| onefang | That's the goal, but there's something wrong with the image I want to spin up in qemu, but the older image is fine. SO this is part of backup / trouble shooting. | 04:19 |
| onefang | I have the older image that works copied out to ext4, now working on the new one that doesn't work. Then I can point proper linux tool sat the problem. | 04:20 |
| onefang | Somehow I doubt the two png files ntfs-3g had issues with is what is stopping it from booting. | 04:21 |
| gnarface | maybe the filesystem is corrupt | 04:23 |
| gnarface | i don't think there's a fsck.ntfs but i'm not sure | 04:23 |
| u-amarsh04 | I used the kernel mode ntfs in recent kernels for a while | 04:43 |
| onefang | I'm using the chimaera-backports kernel, which got updated on this box to kernel 6.0 this morning. | 04:44 |
| onefang | So is that recent enough? | 04:44 |
| u-amarsh04 | but the lack of a free kernel mode fsck.ntfs put me off, and so I use EXFAT where there needs to portability between my pc's running devuan and devices like the media players built in to televisions and blu-ray disk players | 04:45 |
| u-amarsh04 | I think so | 04:45 |
| onefang | ntfs-33 is a FUSE thing, so kernel module might work better. | 04:45 |
| onefang | This Windows partition started life 15 years ago as Windows 8.1 standard install image for a company I was the sysadmin for. So it was the standard company install that I ran on a qemu VM. Then I stopped working for them, but another company wanted me to do development on Windows 8, so the previous compyany let me keep the license. | 04:48 |
| u-amarsh04 | from what I can see there was only one small patch to kernel mode ntfs after 6.0 kernel came out and it had not had any changes for quite a while before that | 04:48 |
| onefang | The new dev stuff was for VR, so I needed to move the VM to real hardware, which worked surprisingly well. NOw I'm moving it back to aVM, but I want to keep all the new stuff. | 04:49 |
| onefang | Coz there's new dev job coming up where a Windows 10 VM might be needed. So I want to VM the newest Windows partition from my other computer, then upgrade it before 8.1 EOls in January. | 04:50 |
| u-amarsh04 | I corrupted an old external Seagate drive that was manufacturer formatted to NTFS and fortunately Seagate did a free data recovery which recovered almost all of the data (just needed to run some scripts to reset file dates) | 04:51 |
| onefang | Buuuut, old VM worked fine, copied from other computer image refuses to boot in qemu. | 04:51 |
| onefang | Lucky I still have the old VM. | 04:51 |
| u-amarsh04 | hmm... just had a mystery where kcompactd0 was at close to 100 percent of one CPU core's time and mysteriously stopped again | 04:52 |
| onefang | OK I'll give the kernel 6.0 NTFS module a try. | 04:53 |
| onefang | What is kcompactd0? | 04:53 |
| u-amarsh04 | I believe that it defragments memory allocation | 04:56 |
| onefang | It had lots to defrag then I guess. | 04:57 |
| u-amarsh04 | ...or was in some kind of interaction with some user space program resulting in memory thrashing | 05:00 |
| onefang | It heard about my problem soaking up 3 x 12 GB of RAM just dealing with the error message, and thrashed your memory in sympathy? | 05:01 |
| u-amarsh04 | hehehe, no, just me doing things like using firefox with over a thousand tabs to stress test things | 05:05 |
| onefang | Well you certainly stressed kcompactd0. B-) | 05:06 |
| onefang | So much for that idea. No NTFS module compiled into chimaera-backports kernel. | 08:48 |
| onefang | # CONFIG_NTFS3_FS is not set | 08:48 |
| onefang | Some for yesterdays 5.19 kernel. | 08:49 |
| onefang | Er s/Some/Same/ | 09:24 |
| * onefang tries something scary. dd the partition image into the old qcow2 mounted by qemu-nbd. | 09:29 | |
| gnarface | i was gonna suggest maybe you could try hexedit and just search for png headers | 09:37 |
| gnarface | maybe with some luck you could then just copy the file out manually | 09:38 |
| onefang | I don't think the png file is important anyway. | 09:41 |
| gnarface | oh, i thought this was all about just recovering two png files | 09:41 |
| onefang | A resolution dependant down arrow for a resolution I'm not gonna be using. | 09:41 |
| onefang | No the point of all of this is to move back to a qemu VM the old Windows 8.1 VM I had moved to real hardware, and keep all the changes I had made after the original move. | 09:43 |
| gnarface | ah, i see | 09:45 |
| onefang | Scroll up for the details I was sharing with u-amarsh04. | 09:46 |
| onefang | Though the "started life 15 years ago" is wrong, it started in 2015. lol | 09:47 |
| TorC | As part of my recent upgrade to Beowulf, Brave browser now seems to default to uploading from recent files, instead of from last directory. | 10:21 |
| TorC | This is extremely aggravating when trying to sequentially upload often old files from a given deep location. | 10:22 |
| TorC | Anyonk know if this is a coincident Brave issue, or something in the new KDE, or more usefully, how to fix it so it again defaults to uploading from the last uploaded from directory? | 10:22 |
| caronte | hello everybody | 11:32 |
| caronte | do we have any news from the dev team? Last tweet was from one year ago and the official website doesn´t seems updated | 11:33 |
| onefang | Like the stuff about the weekly meetings that is published in the mailing list for instance? | 11:36 |
| onefang | Didn't know we had a twitter account, but neither do I. | 11:38 |
| onefang | And last change to the web site was a couple of weeks ago I think. | 11:39 |
| caronte | onefang: thank you! I'm gonna subscribe! Forgot about that | 11:53 |
| onefang | Oh wait, the dev meeting minutes is published on the devuan-dev mailing list. | 11:54 |
| onefang | But us devs hang out here and on the mailing lists, answering questions when we can, etc. | 11:54 |
| onefang | I'm the one in change of package mirrors. | 11:55 |
| caronte | onefang: wow! Sorry if I sounded rude. Not my intention | 12:14 |
| caronte | On the ML there's also way to help? | 12:15 |
| caronte | I mean: requests for helping the team? | 12:15 |
| onefang | You can offer to help, and which ever dev team members deal with whatever it is you want to help with should respond soonish. | 12:18 |
| onefang | Though we are all over the world, so you might have to wait for someone to wake up and get around to reading the latest stuff. | 12:21 |
| markizano | awww, drat.. missed `em... | 12:39 |
| markizano | LoL, was gonna say "for ex... I just lurk and answer questions b/c I'm a Debian fan who appreciates what team does here to maintain a version of systemd-less Debian around." | 12:41 |
| caronte | onefang: thank you! And sorry for late, was lunchtime :) Have a great weekend! | 12:58 |
| onefang | It's Friday night here, I should start my weekend now. B-) | 13:09 |
| markizano | LoL, indeed. and it's holiday :) | 13:17 |
| treeofknowledge1 | Hi guys. I ran this command below and i think it messed up the dkms and now Iam experiencing a login loop. someone help please!sudo su | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | lsusb | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | apt -y install git | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | apt -y install dkms | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | mkdir /apps | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | cd /apps/ | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | --copy all the down lines to the command---- | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | git clone "https://github.com/RinCat/RTL88x2BU-Linux-Driver.git" /usr/src/rtl88x2bu-git | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | sed -i 's/PACKAGE_VERSION="@PKGVER@"/PACKAGE_VERSION="git"/g' /usr/src/rtl88x2bu-git/dkms.conf | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | dkms add -m rtl88x2bu -v git | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | dkms autoinstall | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | basically i was trying to install the drive for a wifi dongle | 15:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it seems i might have to rebuild dkms as shown here but I dont know how to open a terminal to do it on devuan | 15:55 |
| treeofknowledge1 | https://askubuntu.com/questions/53364/command-to-rebuild-all-dkms-modules-for-all-installed-kernels | 15:55 |
| treeofknowledge1 | before i restarted it was saying my disk was full as well and this isn't true | 16:06 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i wonder if this is why i can't login to my account. the screen turns black as if it's going to login but then it doesn't | 16:07 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and puts me back to the login screen | 16:07 |
| tux12 | treeofknowledge1: may be the disk is out of inodes? check with df -i | 16:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i can't login to my user account though | 16:10 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how do i open a terminal from the login screen on devuan | 16:10 |
| treeofknowledge1 | ctrl + alt + f1 through f12 doesn't work | 16:10 |
| tux12 | hmm don't know | 16:11 |
| tux12 | may be you can start on a liveCD | 16:12 |
| treeofknowledge1 | please let me know as i work on tuesday and need to get this fixed by then :O | 16:26 |
| fluffywolf | ctrl-alt-f1 should work. you can try booting with init=/bin/sh, but you'll have a very minimal system when you do that. | 16:36 |
| treeofknowledge1 | on the login screen ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work :/ | 17:10 |
| gnarface | ctrl+alt+f2 maybe? | 17:12 |
| gnarface | not sure in which version but in some version they moved the X11 instance to f1 | 17:13 |
| FatPhil | I like having 11 virtual terminals so I put vt12 in my /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers, not sure how other display managers are configured. | 17:16 |
| fsmithred | There should be a boot menu entry for single-user mode, called recovery or rescue, I think. | 17:16 |
| FatPhil | top tip - always have a bootable USB stick for emergency situations. typically the installation media will suffice. | 17:18 |
| treeofknowledge1 | Ok so I have a bootable usb and i used to to use the command line from root | 17:24 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i typed dkms and it says the previous packages were added but i still have the boot loop | 17:24 |
| treeofknowledge1 | thanks for alll your suggestions so far | 17:25 |
| treeofknowledge1 | im going to try to make a new usb with the live one and see if i can delete some files from the ssd to see if that works because it says the space is full even though this isn't true | 17:25 |
| treeofknowledge1 | does anyone know the right commands to rebuild the dkms packages | 17:26 |
| FatPhil | Regarding space - make sure you're checking the right filesystem. ``df'' with no parameters will tell you about all of them, of course. | 17:28 |
| gnarface | i thought the command was just "dkms" | 17:29 |
| gnarface | maybe dkms -a or something like that | 17:29 |
| gnarface | oh, you probably have to run update-initramfs too | 17:29 |
| treeofknowledge1 | when i type dkms status it says the nvidia driver is installed and the package I don't want (rtl88x2bu 5.6.1) is added | 17:50 |
| treeofknowledge1 | when i type dkms uninstall -m rtl88x2bu -v 5.6.1 it says "this module is not currently active for kernal 5.10.0.9-amd.64 | 17:51 |
| treeofknowledge1 | when i run sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade it says i don't have enough disk space | 17:51 |
| treeofknowledge1 | so some how the installation went wrong with the wifi dongle for rtl88x2bu yesterday and caused my system to have some type of disk space error | 17:51 |
| treeofknowledge1 | so im making a new usb with desktop live, will boot in, and try to delete some files | 17:52 |
| treeofknowledge1 | reboot and see if it lets me login without the login loop | 17:52 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i think the lack of disk space is causing my computer to be unable to login | 17:53 |
| fsmithred | that would do it for sure. Been there, done that. | 17:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | thanks for confirming | 17:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | hopefully this works | 17:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and thanks for the quick response on this thanksgiving holiday | 17:55 |
| fsmithred | boot into recovery mode and you can fix stuff | 17:55 |
| treeofknowledge1 | all you guys are awesome! | 17:55 |
| rwp | Regarding disks space, as others have said check for being out of inodes with "df -i". | 17:55 |
| treeofknowledge1 | ok i will try that now | 17:55 |
| rwp | Every file uses at least one inode. Sometimes there will be a godzillian files created by error each one zero bytes. Created until the file system runs out of inodes. Creating this problem. | 17:56 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes that's exactly what happened | 17:56 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how can i delete those gazzllion files | 17:56 |
| fsmithred | do you know their names and location? | 17:57 |
| treeofknowledge1 | running df -i under "IUse%" gives me 1% for /dev/nvme0n1p2 and 1% for /dev/nvme0n1p1 | 17:58 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i don't lol but it seemed to create files for all the apps i had installed | 17:58 |
| rwp | That's the device node name on the left side of df. What's the file system name on the right side of df output? | 17:58 |
| fsmithred | which filesystem has 100% or nearly that in use? | 17:58 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i will try the live disk once its done downloading in a couple of minutes | 17:58 |
| treeofknowledge1 | no file system lol, maybe because i logged in using root | 17:59 |
| treeofknowledge1 | let me try the actual disk | 17:59 |
| rwp | df will work for both root and non-root okay. But logging in as root will allow a login when non-root fails due to resource constraints. | 18:00 |
| rwp | If you are able to log in with root then that should be more than sufficient and you won't *need* the live boot. Fix things with the root login. | 18:00 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i don't know how to delete files to create disk space in the root login | 18:02 |
| rwp | Oh, when you saw 100% on that /dev entry you must have been looking at /dev which is an pseudo file system in kernel memory. It's not real disk space. It's always 100%. | 18:03 |
| rwp | treeofknowledge1, First thing you need to do is to locate where the disk space is used. | 18:04 |
| rwp | If you are logged in as root the first thing I would try that is very safe is "apt-get clean" which will remove locally copied .deb files from /var/cache/apt which can sometimes be a lot of cached but temporary disk space. | 18:05 |
| rwp | And then see how much space was free'd up. That might be sufficient to get things working again. | 18:05 |
| treeofknowledge1 | ok thanks. I will try that! | 18:08 |
| rwp | Humorously I look around my collection for examples and find that my laptop is 100% full too and I need to free up disk space there. I hadn't noticed either. | 18:08 |
| rwp | The tool I like the best for finding disk space being used is "ncdu" the du with ncurses interface. | 18:10 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it didn't clear anything. any other commands I can try? | 18:10 |
| rwp | I run it in my home directory just as "ncdu" and then can browse to see what I did. | 18:11 |
| rwp | From root I look at the entire system "ncdu -x /" and look at the entire system. | 18:11 |
| rwp | But of course you won't be able to install it if the disk is full. But for next time. | 18:11 |
| treeofknowledge1 | ok thanks! | 18:11 |
| rwp | In your non-root home directory try "du -sh" and see what total disk space it says you are using. | 18:12 |
| rwp | That's the disk-usage command, -s give a summary, -h in human readable units. | 18:12 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i typed cd /home | 18:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | then du -sh | 18:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and it says 317 GB | 18:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | my nvme is 500 gb | 18:13 |
| rwp | And how large is the file system of /home itself? "df /home" | 18:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | there's a disk error for space | 18:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | lol | 18:14 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it says 100% use | 18:14 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i need to use the live disk | 18:14 |
| treeofknowledge1 | to delete some movies and see if it lets me login | 18:14 |
| rwp | Right. But in the other column it will say how much is available. Example: "/dev/mapper/v4-root 150G 143G 293M 100% /" Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on | 18:14 |
| rwp | That's my full file system with Size:150G Used:143G Avail:293M | 18:15 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it doesn't say anything else more specific just all the blocks | 18:15 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it doesn't show it like yours | 18:15 |
| rwp | Hmm... That's unexpected. | 18:16 |
| treeofknowledge1 | im gonna delete some stuff using the live cd | 18:17 |
| treeofknowledge1 | see if it works | 18:17 |
| treeofknowledge1 | brb | 18:17 |
| rwp | I might use "find . -size +100M -ls | sort -k7,7n | tail" to list files larger than 100MB in size and just show me the largest of them. | 18:18 |
| rwp | That uses find to find files by criteria, larger than 100MB, give an ls-like listing, sort numerically that by the size column -k7,7n, and just show me the largest end. | 18:20 |
| FatPhil | Maybe also use du|sort -n to find the directories where there might be a whole load of medium-sized files. clear your caches. | 18:21 |
| rwp | In my case what filled it up was slow increase in the total size of me downloading audio files. But easiest space to free up was a few install dvd iso files. | 18:24 |
| treeofknowledge1 | when i log in to live cd and right click the home folder of the nvme it says its 100% full even after deleting files | 18:25 |
| gnarface | do you need to fstrim it or something? | 18:25 |
| rwp | It makes me nervous that you refer to it as the folder of the nvme because that is the device which holds the file system and not the contents of the file system. | 18:25 |
| rwp | fstrim is not a disk space thing. Will never have any effect on disk space. | 18:26 |
| rwp | fstrim can improve the efficiency of flash storage by allowing the device to know more about what it is storing, and that some of it isn't being used. | 18:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i opened the encrypted nvme and deleted some files from the downloads folder of my user account | 18:26 |
| rwp | That sounds good. And you mentioned they were movies? I would guess that deleting even one movie would be enough to move from 100% to at least 99%. | 18:27 |
| rwp | Which again makes me nervous that we aren't looking at the right things. | 18:28 |
| rwp | A DVD type of movie would typically consume 5-7GB of space. A compressed movie downloaded for portable viewing might be around 1GB in size. | 18:29 |
| treeofknowledge1 | fuck | 18:31 |
| treeofknowledge1 | its still not working | 18:31 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i tried logging in and it doesn't work | 18:31 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it starts logging in but then shoots me back into the login scree | 18:31 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how can i delete files from the dkms folder? | 18:32 |
| treeofknowledge1 | apt -y install dkms - this is what installed all my files and messed this up i guess | 18:33 |
| rwp | You said you can login as root on the text console? Try logging in as you on the text console instead. It might display the errors and the errors would be informative. | 18:33 |
| treeofknowledge1 | the directory is mkdir /apps and /apps | 18:33 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i'll try going into there and see if there's files i can delete | 18:33 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i'm not sure | 18:33 |
| rwp | Simply installing dkms is not going to be a problem preventing you from logging in. But if you created /apps and then git cloned very large things there then yes that could be the source of the problem. | 18:34 |
| rwp | I don't use dkms myself and don't know how to drive it. | 18:35 |
| treeofknowledge1 | hmm how can i navigate to /apps folder using the live cd | 18:41 |
| treeofknowledge1 | the xfce doesn't let me search for files in an easy way | 18:41 |
| rwp | Where did you mount the file system using the live-cd? Maybe /mnt? If so then "cd /mnt" will go there. | 18:46 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i just booted it in from the install | 18:49 |
| treeofknowledge1 | this is frustrating | 18:49 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i just feel like doing a fresh install -.-4 | 18:49 |
| treeofknowledge1 | already wasted 5 hours | 18:49 |
| rwp | If you just booted a live-cd then your system's disk will not be mounted. Since you have not yet mounted it. | 18:49 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how can i access the files i git cloned if the cd /apps | 18:50 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i dont even know where that's at | 18:50 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and xfce doesn't have an easy way to search files | 18:50 |
| rwp | This is where the debian-install image is good, because it has a "rescue mode" that will guide you through it. | 18:50 |
| rwp | What live-cd did you download and boot? | 18:50 |
| treeofknowledge1 | desktop-live | 18:54 |
| treeofknowledge1 | do u know how to enable copying to a encrypted file drive after opneing it on this desktoplive cd | 18:57 |
| treeofknowledge1 | when i right click i can't open as root | 18:57 |
| treeofknowledge1 | open location as root to enable copying | 18:57 |
| rwp | I haven't ever booted that image so I will have to guess. Perhaps others will have more specific help. | 18:57 |
| rwp | Also I don't use the graphical file managers so it's difficult for me to describe what one would do there. | 18:57 |
| rwp | But you are able to click and open the files there and it asks you for the encryption key and all of that works? | 18:58 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes | 18:59 |
| rwp | If so then great! You should be able to see how much disk space is in use in /apps and then work with it. Work with it in some graphical way for which I have no clue. | 18:59 |
| treeofknowledge1 | but i can't copy files to it because i don't know how to open location as root | 18:59 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes but i cant find the /apps folder because the thunar file manager doesn't have a serach function | 19:00 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i already deleted some dvds and it didn't work on boot | 19:00 |
| rwp | No clue. I am completely useless in the graphical interface. But let me know if you open a text terminal. | 19:01 |
| treeofknowledge1 | so it seems i need to delete the /apps folder taht was git cloned | 19:01 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes i opened a text terminal lol | 19:01 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how can i find the /apps folder lol using the terminal xD | 19:01 |
| rwp | In the text terminal are you root or non-root? | 19:01 |
| rwp | The prompt on the left side is usually a clue. Run "id" and see what it says for direct information. | 19:02 |
| rwp | If it is non-root then run "su -" to become the root user. | 19:02 |
| rwp | Run "df -h" to see what is currently mounted. Since you have already viewed the encrypted file system then it must already be mounted. | 19:02 |
| rwp | It might be mounted at /mnt already. If so then good. Change directory there with "cd /mnt". Look with "ls -l" ("ll" is typically available shortcut) | 19:03 |
| rwp | If /apps is there then "cd /mnt/apps" or "cd apps" would change directory there. | 19:03 |
| rwp | Then again "du -sh" would list how much disk space is used. | 19:03 |
| rwp | Then "ls -l" (or "ll") will long list the files in that directory. | 19:04 |
| treeofknowledge1 | welll idk how the password for the desktop-live iso for enableing root | 19:04 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it asks for password | 19:04 |
| rwp | If you have git cloned several large repositories there then those might be why the disk partition is filled up. | 19:04 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes i think so too | 19:04 |
| rwp | Try "sudo -i" instead of "su -" and it will ask for a different password. It will ask for the user's password instead of the root password. | 19:04 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i ran sudo -i and it worked | 19:05 |
| treeofknowledge1 | no passwrod needed | 19:05 |
| rwp | Good. It means they configured the live-desktop to not need a password for sudo. Good. | 19:05 |
| treeofknowledge1 | yes it says there is 0 Gb free | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | those gitcloned files needed to be deleted | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it says 456 gb total 445 free and 0 available | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | how can i delete them in /apps | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | oh you posted above | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | let me try | 19:09 |
| treeofknowledge1 | https://www.pastebin.com/32W0sy2c | 19:12 |
| treeofknowledge1 | look at what i posted there | 19:12 |
| rwp | That page is 404 Not Found for me. | 19:12 |
| treeofknowledge1 | https://www.pastebin.com/32W0sy2C | 19:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | try this one | 19:13 |
| treeofknowledge1 | can u see it now | 19:14 |
| treeofknowledge1 | --- /dev/mapper/devuanrig--vg-root 456G 445G 0 100% /media/devuan/43f43d31-8e28-412a-92ec-2b5bc5c7e19d | 19:14 |
| treeofknowledge1 | look it's size is 456 gb and its used 445 gb | 19:15 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i think i need to delete more | 19:15 |
| rwp | I can see that paste okay. Looks like your file system is mounted at /media/devuan/43f43d31-8e28-412a-92ec-2b5bc5c7e19d. | 19:16 |
| rwp | So you should be able to "cd /media/devuan/43f43d31-8e28-412a-92ec-2b5bc5c7e19d" okay. | 19:16 |
| rwp | The live-desktop is using the UUID of the file system as the mount point. | 19:17 |
| rwp | I'll guess that the other one is a /boot partition. | 19:17 |
| treeofknowledge1 | it worked! | 19:18 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i deleted more files until it showed 3 gb of free space | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and i was able to login | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | now to find the git cloned files and delete them | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | fuck | 19:19 |
| rwp | Yay! \o/ | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | thank you so much! | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | u fucking rock | 19:19 |
| treeofknowledge1 | btw rwp | 19:22 |
| treeofknowledge1 | do you know a good disk analyzer app that can view files so i can find those git cloned files | 19:22 |
| rwp | There is nothing magical about git working copies that needs a "file analyzer" to view them. Just use "ls" and "ls -l" and "ls -la". | 19:23 |
| rwp | Git stores the upstream information in a .git/ directory. Since it starts with a dot that file will be a hidden file. Hidden files are viewed with -a. | 19:23 |
| rwp | But again if you are asking about graphical tools... Sorry but I have no clue. I use the command line tools since those are more powerful. | 19:24 |
| rwp | The graphical tools are captured user interfaces created by someone to do specific safe tasks. | 19:24 |
| rwp | But they can't ever know what problems I will have created for myself and will not be able to create a way to fix things they don't know about. | 19:25 |
| treeofknowledge1 | i found it | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | its under usr/src/rtl82 | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | lol it basically copied my entire downloads in there | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | lol | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | and my entire home contents | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | wtf | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | lol | 19:26 |
| treeofknowledge1 | thanks a bunch! | 19:29 |
| treeofknowledge1 | have a great day! | 19:29 |
| Afdal | Anyone else have a bunch of junk in filesystem root put there by pulseaudio that normally belongs in $HOME ? | 22:06 |
| Afdal | I only just noticed this but apparently these files have been around for a while. Perhaps since I first installed Chimaera in fact. | 22:07 |
| Afdal | https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1031156-start-0.html | 22:09 |
| Afdal | Seems like it might be alsa that's causing this | 22:10 |
| newdevusr | I am a new user with a clean install of the testing branch (Daedalus). I am using pulse audio on two machines. I do not see anything that indicates a problem with the filesystem (pulse or otherwise) | 22:42 |
| Afdal | you don't see a /.cache/, /.config/pulse/ and /pulse/ at filesystem root? | 22:44 |
| Afdal | (they belong at $HOME/) | 22:44 |
| Afdal | guess it wasn't the Devuan installer that did it then | 22:45 |
| newdevusr | Afdal - a google search and I think you are looking at "Libcanberra" caching files... i dont know what that is but i suspect it is expected behavior if you are looking at the files that say "event-sound-cache...." | 22:54 |
| DPA | I had /pulse/, but no . files. (I've bootstrapped this install manually, though). | 22:55 |
| newdevusr | i used a "minimal" x11 install and used apt to install pulse after the setup and user setup was complete...this disro is pretty impressive letting you pick your own display server, sound server and still being so easy to setup | 23:12 |
| golinux | newdevusr: FWIW . . . it is more common for this crowd to remove pulse rather than install it. apulse works a treat . . . :) | 23:45 |
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