libera/#devuan/ Sunday, 2022-12-04

rktaalsa is not listing my pc speaker. How can I change the sound level? It's very loud.11:19
hagbardIf alsa knows it, then you can set the volume with alsamixer.11:20
hagbardOr do you mean the Mainboard beeper?11:21
hagbardIts loudness can't be set.11:21
rktathe mainboard beeper. Iirc I had it as an alsa channel on other devices, but not in this one.11:30
hagbardI think it can only be an alsa channel, if it's not an actual classical physical beeper, but is emulated by the sound chip/driver.11:32
rktathat makes sense11:35
hagbardAn actual pc-speaker would just be a tiny bit of hardwired hardware, with no way to influence its level by software.11:35
leitzTrying to update a node, and getting "release file for .... is not valid yet". How do I either remove that repo, or is there another option?12:54
hagbardIs maybe your clock way off?12:56
hagbardthat would explain getting a date in the "future"12:57
hagbardI there's a problem with a specific repo mirror, choosing a different one would help: https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/mirror_list.txt12:59
leitzyup, thanks. On boot, it didn't have internet connectivity. Rebooting, to see if ntp starts up on its own.12:59
leitzDate was still off, chrony was not installed. Fixed the latter, which fixed the former, and the upgrade is in progress.13:19
leitzIt's an old Dell E6500, having issues. I have to look at an i801_smbus transaction timeout error, and figure out why trying to look at Firefox settings locks up the computer.13:20
leitzIf I want to blacklist a module, but there is no /etc/modprobe.d directory, is it okay to create it?14:47
debdogleitz: I'd say yes.14:57
leitzlooks like I'm blind, it was there. I wrote blacklist.conf, but to no avail. Do the modules need to be in their own files?15:00
leitzAnd hey, debdog, thanks! My chat screen still showed the last time you answered a question for me.  :)15:00
debdogno, one .conf can contain more than one module. just to be certain, you have a "blacklist $module_name" and a new line in there?15:03
debdogI did?15:04
leitzdebdog, yeah, it was a few weeks ago.15:05
leitzSo, /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf didn't stop the boot error. Neither did single files nor putting "install <module> /bin/true".15:06
leitzI'm not sure if it's related, but on build it asked for a "regulatory.db" for some non-free hardware. No idea how to go about that.15:07
devuanconsumerHi guys. I installed devuan on a new system with a ryzen 7950x processor with an integrated GPU. I have the following issues: 1) no temps are showing up 2) small resolution due to not being able to find graphics drivers for it on synaptic. I tried sudo sensors-detect without success. I also tried installing the packages without success: amd64-mirocode, firmware-amd-graphics, sudo sensors-detectand running What is the repository to try new15:15
devuanconsumerkernals?15:15
devuanconsumershould I try the backports or the experimental?15:17
divad27182with new devices... you might need to wait a few months for linux to implement things...15:18
devuanconsumerryzen 7950 was released at the end of september15:19
devuanconsumerso must i wait 6 months or a year?15:19
divad27182possible15:19
divad27182there should be something, but you might be missing some bits for a time.15:19
divad27182and you might need to wait longer for it to be in a distribution kernel15:21
devuanconsumershould I simply try both backports and experimental?15:22
divad27182checking Linux 6.0.11 for "7950" now15:22
devuanconsumerhow can I do what you're doing15:22
divad27182Well, in this case, I downloaded the 6.0.11 kernel a day or so ago, and unpacked it.15:23
divad27182now I CDed into the source tree and ran: find . -type f -exec grep 7950 {} +15:23
divad27182download from www.kernel.org15:23
devuanconsumerhow do i install it?15:24
devuanconsumerim a newb lol15:24
devuanconsumercompared to u15:24
divad27182you might just try googling "linux" and your CPU model15:24
divad27182for the sensors...  You might try looking to see if you have anything in /sys/class/thermal/15:27
devuanconsumerok I will look into it15:32
leitzHow do I totally blacklist i2c_i801 and i2c_smb modules? Can I just remove the i2c packages?15:33
divad27182four instances so far of "7950" in sources, at least one more expected.  None relevant.15:33
divad27182you can blacklist a module by putting a blacklist line in a file matching /etc/modprobe.d/*.conf15:34
leitzdivad27182, so far that's not working.15:34
divad27182I think I've seen that once or twice.   I think you might need to remove (or rename) the files in /lib/modules/....15:35
divad27182leitz: I think there is a requirement the filename end in .conf in this case.15:52
devuanconsumer@divad, I looked inside the sys/class/thermal and there are 31 components there it looks the same as on my pc where sensors are detected15:53
divad27182assuming some where thermal_zone*, those should report temperatures.15:54
divad27182not sure where else to look...15:55
divad27182hard drives may require another package to report their temps....  at least, they used to.15:55
devuanconsumerhow do I install this https://github.com/ocerman/zenpower15:56
devuanconsumerfor devuan15:56
devuanconsumeri'm a newb15:56
devuanconsumerplease check out this link15:56
divad27182there are 3 other pieces of hardware called a "7950" that I've seen in the kernel15:56
divad27182with caution....15:57
divad27182that appears at first glance to be a kernel mod/patch...15:58
divad27182so the first step is to get a working kernel source build....15:59
divad27182well...  and as that hasn't changed sine 2020, I would not expect it to work for your CPU.16:00
divad27182on the other hand, if it is a matter of IDs, you might be able to whitelist something16:00
devuanconsumerok so I restarted with the new 6.0.0.0 driver from synaptic package after adding experimental and backports to sourceslist and it booted up with more sensors16:07
devuanconsumernow i am seeing tctl and tccd1 and tccd216:07
divad27182devuanconsumer: In any case: you asked how to install that.  The ubuntu instructions have a good chance of working (ubuntu could be callsed a sibling distribution to devuan).16:07
devuanconsumerthey seem to be the cpu temps16:08
divad27182seems possible.16:08
divad27182newer kernels support newer CPUs.16:08
devuanconsumerthank you for the help man16:08
devuanconsumerthis is good enough16:08
devuanconsumeri don't care about the resolution apu for the 795016:09
devuanconsumerit sucks its only 1000x70016:09
devuanconsumerbecause no graphics driver16:09
devuanconsumerbut thats fine16:09
divad27182well16:09
devuanconsumeri just want to see the temps for this mining rig16:09
devuanconsumerthey're for mining :)16:09
divad27182that might just be a matter of find the right driver to install16:09
devuanconsumeri want to overclock16:09
devuanconsumeri already tried all of them in the synaptic manager16:09
divad27182or even just parameterize it right16:09
devuanconsumereven though shitty resolution, i can play 4k videos while mining16:09
divad27182synaptic just installs packages.16:09
divad27182now load the right module into the kernel... or parameterize it right16:10
devuanconsumeri need practical instructions lol16:10
divad27182well...16:10
divad27182check out the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log16:11
divad27182it may tell you about your video system.16:11
devuanconsumerok16:12
devuanconsumeris there a command i can run16:12
devuanconsumeri don't remember16:12
divad27182make sure your monitor is better than the resolution you are seeing, as the card/OS may not be willing to do better than the monitor16:12
devuanconsumermy monitor is definitely good16:12
devuanconsumerdisplay port 1.4 and hdmi 2.016:13
divad27182I think there is readedid, but I think that tells you about the monitor.16:13
leitzdivad27182, I had already added a blacklist.conf to /lib/modules.d16:14
u-amarsh04my /etc/X11/xorg.conf just has the following 4 lines:16:14
u-amarsh04Section "Device"16:14
u-amarsh04        Identifier      "Radeon Cape Verde"16:14
u-amarsh04        Driver          "amdgpu"16:14
divad27182You could try gvidm and see what it offers for resolutions16:14
u-amarsh04EndSection16:14
divad27182leitz: I think it may be modprobe.d not modules.d16:14
u-amarsh04the text in quotes on the Identifier line doesn't really matter16:14
u-amarsh04and my /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf blocks radeon as I use amdgpu:16:15
u-amarsh04blacklist radeon16:15
divad27182devuanconsumer: What u-amarsh04 is saying is probably a good solution for you.16:16
u-amarsh04but also, I build my own kernels16:17
devuanconsumeri am only using the integrated graphics on 7950x16:17
devuanconsumerno radeon graphics card16:17
devuanconsumerno discrete graphics card16:17
devuanconsumerno nvidia graphics card16:17
divad27182didn't amd buy radeon?16:18
u-amarsh04that 7950x apu should still use the amdgpu module16:18
devuanconsumerwhich one is that16:18
u-amarsh04AMD bought ATI16:18
devuanconsumerwhat package?16:18
devuanconsumerin synaptic16:18
divad27182not packages.16:18
devuanconsumerwhat module?16:18
divad27182edit files, maybe reboot.16:18
devuanconsumerspecific instructions please :)16:18
leitzdivad27182, you're right, I just mistyped.16:18
u-amarsh04amdgpu is a kernel module, should be all kernels over the last several years16:19
divad27182so put a line reading "amdgpu"  (no quotes) in file /etc/modules16:19
divad27182then put the four lines u-amarsh05 showed into /etc/X11/xorg.conf16:20
u-amarsh04and make sure that you have the package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed16:20
divad27182yes, then do "modprobe amdgpu", then restart your X server.16:20
devuanconsumerhow do i restart x server16:21
divad27182might be enough to logout and back in.16:21
divad27182might need to "kill" the server.16:21
divad27182might need to reboot.16:21
divad27182for a newb, if not too inconvenient, I would say reboot.16:22
u-amarsh04yes, when I log out of the graphical desktop, the desktop manager restarts the X server16:22
u-amarsh04if you are still having issues, checking /var/log/Xorg.0.log may help16:23
devuanconsumerok let me try16:25
divad27182I have another thought about those sensors.  You said you had installed "sensors-detect".  Did you run "sensors-detect"?  It doesn't try to detect sensors just because you've installed it.16:33
u-amarsh04will be idling, after 2am here16:40
divad2718210AM here - need to get breakfast.16:41
devuanconsumerHere is my log info u-amarsh04 https://pastebin.com/9XUtuc5d16:42
divad27182did you get the lines entered into /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?16:50
divad27182(The pastebin doesn't show any evidence of "amdgpu")16:54
devuanconsumerok great now i busted my computer17:05
devuanconsumerafter rebooting with all the fixes17:05
devuanconsumerit's asking for "gklogin 01"17:05
devuanconsumer"gk01 login:"17:06
devuanconsumerhow do i fix this :/17:06
devuanconsumeri did all of this : /etc/X11/xorg.conf just has the following 4 lines:17:06
devuanconsumerSection "Device"17:06
devuanconsumer         Identifier      "Radeon Cape Verde"17:06
devuanconsumer         Driver          "amdgpu"17:06
devuanconsumerEndSection17:06
devuanconsumer<u-amarsh04> and my /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf blocks radeon as I use amdgpu:  blacklist radeon17:06
devuanconsumerdivad27182> put a line reading "amdgpu"  (no quotes) in file /etc/modules17:06
devuanconsumerdivad27182: and u-amarsh04: please help17:07
divad27182ok... that much is promising.17:07
divad27182did you <u-amarsh04> and make sure that you have the package: xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu installed17:07
devuanconsumeryes17:08
devuanconsumerit was already installed17:08
devuanconsumerin the etc/modules17:08
devuanconsumerwhat was the file name17:08
divad27182OK.  login17:08
devuanconsumeri added one17:08
devuanconsumeri don't understand how to login17:08
devuanconsumer"gk01 login:"17:08
devuanconsumerhow?17:08
divad27182that is the login prompt, text mode variant.17:09
devuanconsumerso how do i login though17:09
devuanconsumeri don't know lol17:09
divad27182you enter your username.  Then it prompts for password17:09
devuanconsumerok before i do that17:09
devuanconsumerput a line reading "amdgpu"  (no quotes) in file /etc/modules, what was the name of the file suppose to be for this17:09
devuanconsumeri added a file for modules.d17:09
devuanconsumernamed amdgpu.conf and added amdgpu17:10
divad27182actually, the filename is "/etc/modules"17:10
divad27182no .d17:10
divad27182no subdirectory.17:10
devuanconsumerlol17:10
divad27182just a simple list17:10
divad27182in any case, you need to get logged in, go find /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:11
divad27182and see what the errors are17:11
divad27182why X failed to start17:12
devuanconsumerwell17:12
devuanconsumeri logged in and it didn't login to desktop17:12
devuanconsumerit continued in the text mode17:12
divad27182right.  No X -> no desktop.17:12
devuanconsumerhow do i get desktop?17:12
divad27182start X.17:12
devuanconsumerdo i type start X?17:12
devuanconsumer"start X" without ""17:13
divad27182which means first: find out why X did not start.17:13
divad27182so: no desktop for now.17:13
devuanconsumerso what do i type in the text mode17:13
divad27182try: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log17:13
divad27182you need to look for lines with EE (or maybe FF) in the front17:14
divad27182Some will be problems, some not.17:16
divad27182(apparently it doesn't use FF... so just "(EE)" lines)17:17
divad27182probably near or at the end17:17
devuanconsumerit says there's a parse error "section" is not a valid keyword in this section17:17
devuanconsumerproblem parsing the config file17:17
devuanconsumererror parsing the config file17:18
devuanconsumerno screens found17:18
devuanconsumerthis is for the xorg.conf17:18
devuanconsumer> etc/X11/xorg.conf17:18
divad27182ok.  that file's syntax is painfully critical.17:19
devuanconsumercan i edit the xorg.conf from the text line?17:19
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: note, sensors are in the package "lm-sensors"17:19
divad27182yes.  What editor's do you know?  and have installed?17:19
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: (you have to install that first then run sensors-detect)17:19
gnarfacefor the xorg.conf try editing it with nano17:21
gnarfacethat's probably the simplest choice17:21
devuanconsumerok but how do it get the terminal text to remove the command17:21
devuanconsumeri mean to clear what i brought up17:22
divad27182q17:22
gnarfaceq to exit less, also q to exit man pages; "man xorg.conf" for syntax details on that file17:22
gnarfacenote letter-case matters in that file17:23
divad27182at this point....   you might be better off finding someone who knows linux to come in and help you.17:23
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: example amdgpu device section (note that the string in "Identifier" has to match the string in "Device" under the "Screen" section: https://paste.debian.net/1262835/)17:25
devuanconsumerok so i opened it with nano17:25
gnarfacethe strings in VendorName and BoardName don't matter17:25
divad27182Does it match what you pasted before?17:25
gnarfacethere's a bunch of other options but you probably don't need them right now17:25
divad27182or are there punctuation or spelling errors?17:25
gnarfaceit has to be "Section" not "section" too, be careful17:26
divad27182right...  "painfully critical"17:26
devuanconsumerok let me try17:26
divad27182case matters on everything not quoted.17:26
gnarfacewell, case matters on some of the quoted stuff too like "amdgpu"17:27
divad27182true17:27
divad27182the amount of whitespace doesn't matter.  The presence does.  "End Section" is not the same as "EndSection"17:27
devuanconsumerwhat am i looking for under man xorg.conf17:28
divad27182but it is OK to write:17:28
divad27182                                     Driver                                             "amdgpu"17:28
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: for xorg.conf you should read the whole thing, but ignore it for now just copy my example17:28
devuanconsumerok copy your example from the pastebin17:29
divad27182But in your case, I think you may have written "section" instead of "Section"17:29
gnarfacethat's what it sounds like to me17:29
divad27182next obvious question: are you using xdm, gdm, kdm, or something else.   Once you've edited and saved, you can do "invoke-rc.d xdm start" (or whichever other one you are using) to try to start the desktop.17:31
gnarfaceor forgot to close a previous section or something like that17:31
divad27182I suspect only one section at this point.17:31
devuanconsumerok so i rebooted and it didn't work17:35
gnarfacechecked the xorg log again, if you made any meaningful change the error will also be different17:35
divad27182OK.  Login, read Xorg.0.log again17:35
devuanconsumerok17:35
divad27182The invoke-rc.d variant will be faster than a reboot, and leave you where you were if it doesn't work.17:36
gnarfaceyea but it probably has to be restart or stop then start not just start17:36
devuanconsumerthe error is the same17:37
divad27182actually... you are right....17:37
devuanconsumer"Section" is not a valid keyword17:37
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: alright, you're gonna want to learn this stuff yourself eventually but if you put the whole xorg.conf in paste.debian.net i'll proofread it for you17:37
devuanconsumeryeah im trying to learn lol17:38
devuanconsumeri'm not sure how to put everything from xorg.conf in debian past if i only have textmode17:38
devuanconsumercan't i just delete everything in xorg and reboot17:39
divad27182that could work17:39
divad27182assuming it was empty to begin with17:39
gnarfaceit might work, but it might work without using the amdgpu driver17:39
gnarfacegive it a try but you might end up missing out on hardware accel (the log file changes will make it obvious)17:39
divad27182right.  You might not get the resolution.17:39
gnarfaceif the log file still doesn't change after that you're probably looking at the wrong log file17:40
divad27182possible, but that would imply he is running multiple X servers17:40
gnarfaceno if it's an upgraded system it could just be the change from running suid root to running as own user17:41
devuanconsumerlol it worked!17:41
gnarfaceit can have moved from /var/log/Xorg.0.log to ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log and left behind the old log17:41
devuanconsumeri am learning haha17:41
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: check the log now to see if amdgpu shows up at all17:41
divad27182well...  good luck17:43
gnarfacethe best way to learn how to make a custom xorg.conf in your case is to read the man page for xorg.conf and the man page for amdgpu while looking at some examples in the wild that are known to work17:48
gnarface(and your error log of course)17:48
gnarfacein my case it wasn't necessary to put the amdgpu module in /etc/modules but it was for several other modules for me so ymmv17:49
gnarfaceyou might also need a boatload of mesa libraries to make all the hardware accel work right17:49
gnarfaceeverything you need is in the repo though, just don't go downloading packages from 3rd party location17:49
devuanconsumerok here are the pastes17:51
devuanconsumerhttps://pastebin.com/VL6TzN2W17:51
devuanconsumerhttps://pastebin.com/gqc4TpvR17:51
devuanconsumerone is for the log and the other the man xorg.conf17:51
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: sorry i don't trust pastebin17:53
gnarface you're gonna have to either just /msg it to me here or figure out how to use paste.debian.net somehow if you want me to look17:54
gnarfaceif your gui is up now it shouldn't be a problem17:54
devuanconsumerok do u prefer the paste.debian.net?17:57
gnarfacedoesn't really matter but that'll be faster17:57
devuanconsumerhttps://pastebin.com/VL6TzN2W17:58
devuanconsumerhttps://pastebin.com/gqc4TpvR17:58
gnarfacethat's still pastebin17:58
gnarfaceif you /msg it to me you just have to wait a minute for it to come through due to rate limiting17:59
devuanconsumeroops sorry18:01
devuanconsumerlol18:01
devuanconsumermy daughter is sick and i thought i copied and pasted it right18:01
devuanconsumerhttps://paste.debian.net/1262838/18:02
devuanconsumerhttps://paste.debian.net/1262839/18:02
devuanconsumerhere they are18:02
devuanconsumeri also just added amdgpu to the etc/modules18:03
devuanconsumeri didn't have that part right18:03
gnarfaceok, these are two identical pastes of the bottom of the xorg.conf man page, i already have a copy of it installed here so i don't need to see that18:03
gnarfacewhat i want to see is your actual xorg.conf attempt and the Xorg.0.log from before and after you deleted the xorg.conf18:04
gnarfaceso that'd be 3 total links18:04
gnarfaceif you don't have the older log still that's fine18:04
devuanconsumerok let me see18:07
devuanconsumeri took a picture of the log before18:08
devuanconsumeris there a website u trust i can add it to?18:08
devuanconsumerthis was my conf attempt Section "Device"18:08
devuanconsumer         Identifier      "Radeon Cape Verde"18:08
devuanconsumer         Driver          "amdgpu"18:08
devuanconsumerEndSection18:08
devuanconsumeroh i see pastedebian has a file18:09
devuanconsumerfeature18:09
gnarfacethat was really the only thing in your xorg.conf?18:15
gnarfaceno other lines besides that?18:15
onefangFinally got JACK sorted out.  The audio setup on my super desktop is complex.  Though the last thing solved was "jiggle this cable a bit to get stereo out of that particular port".  lol18:15
onefangNow to try out all that wonderful audio and MIDI software.18:15
gnarfaceonefang: you might want to disable "Auto-Mute Mode" in alsamixer if furnished, it can cause trouble18:16
gnarfacei had a problem with it triggering at the wrong time due to loose connections18:16
onefangHaven't spotted that yet.18:16
gnarfaceif jack takes over your alsamixer view like pulseaudio does, you'll have to make sure it's not running first18:17
onefangNot using alsamixer anyway.18:17
gnarfaceit would be a hardware feature exposed by the driver to alsamixer directly18:17
gnarfaceit may or may not be furnished, but if you're not using a laptop on the go it's probably not worth it18:17
onefangI have a Plantronics RIG mini mixer.18:18
onefangI said "super desktop", this ain't no lappy.  lol18:18
devuanconsumeryes that was it18:19
devuanconsumerhow can i find out what the device identifier is for my APU using the terminal linux18:20
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: the "Identifier" field is arbitrary, you can pick whatever you want18:20
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: what is important is that it matches what's in the "Screen" section, which you don't have but you need18:20
gnarfaceyou don't need the whole xorg.conf anymore, you don't need any of it, but if you include some of it, there's a minimum of those two things: a valid "Device" section and a valid "Screen" section18:21
gnarfacewithout them, things should work but will probably fall back on the generic modesetting driver which is missing support many of your GPU's best features18:22
gnarfacesupport for*18:22
devuanconsumerhow do i figure out the valid screen18:23
devuanconsumerlol18:23
devuanconsumer:/18:23
gnarfacehang on i'll just give you one18:23
gnarfacewhat's your display's native resolution?18:23
devuanconsumerdevuanconsumer@gk01:~$ lspci -vnn | grep VGA -A 1218:24
devuanconsumerlibkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod-config.c:657 kmod_config_parse: /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf line 1: ignoring bad line starting with 'blacklist'18:24
devuanconsumer0f:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:164e] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])18:24
devuanconsumerSubsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device [1458:d000]18:24
devuanconsumerFlags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 25518:24
devuanconsumerMemory at fce0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]18:24
devuanconsumerMemory at fcf0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=2M]18:24
devuanconsumerI/O ports at e000 [disabled] [size=256]18:24
devuanconsumerMemory at fc900000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512K]18:24
devuanconsumerCapabilities: <access denied>18:24
devuanconsumerKernel modules: amdgpu18:24
devuanconsumer0f:00.1 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:1640]18:24
devuanconsumerSubsystem: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Device [1002:1640]18:24
devuanconsumerFlags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 11918:24
devuanconsumerdevuanconsumer@gk01:~$ xrandr18:24
devuanconsumerxrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default18:25
devuanconsumerScreen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 76818:25
devuanconsumerdefault connected primary 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm18:25
devuanconsumer   1024x768      76.00*18:25
devuanconsumerits 1024x768 and i can't edit it to make it higher lol18:25
devuanconsumerthe display section has no other options18:25
gnarfacedon't you have a manufacturer's manual to verify from?18:25
devuanconsumermy amd manual?18:25
devuanconsumeryes18:25
gnarfacefor the display18:25
gnarfacenot for the cpu18:26
devuanconsumeroh18:27
devuanconsumerthe highest i have is 2560x1440 (16:9)18:27
gnarfacedoes it happen to mention horizontal and vertical refresh ranges in there too?18:27
devuanconsumeri am basically switching screens to my main pc and the ryzen one lol18:28
devuanconsumerdevuanconsumer@devuanrig:~$ xrandr18:28
devuanconsumerScreen 0: minimum 8 x 8, current 2560 x 1440, maximum 32767 x 3276718:28
devuanconsumerDVI-D-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:28
devuanconsumerHDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:28
devuanconsumerDP-0 connected primary 2560x1440+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 597mm x 336mm18:28
devuanconsumer   2560x1440     59.95 + 165.08*  144.00   120.0018:28
devuanconsumer   1920x1200     59.8818:28
devuanconsumer   1920x1080    119.88    60.00    59.94    50.0018:28
devuanconsumer   1680x1050     59.9518:28
devuanconsumer   1600x1200     60.0018:28
devuanconsumer   1280x1024     75.02    60.0218:28
devuanconsumer   1280x800      59.8118:28
devuanconsumer   1280x720      59.94    50.0018:28
devuanconsumer   1152x864      75.0018:28
devuanconsumer   1024x768      75.03    60.0018:28
devuanconsumer   800x600       75.00    60.3218:28
devuanconsumer   720x576       50.0018:28
devuanconsumer   720x480       59.9418:28
devuanconsumer   640x480       75.00    59.94    59.9318:28
devuanconsumerDP-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:29
devuanconsumerDP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:29
devuanconsumerDP-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:29
devuanconsumerDP-4 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:29
devuanconsumerDP-5 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)18:29
devuanconsumerlet me look on the website18:29
gnarfacecareful with multi-line pastes in this channel, you can get kicked by flood protect bot18:29
gnarfacebetter to use paste.debian.net for anything over 3 lines18:29
devuanconsumeroops :/18:30
devuanconsumerhere is my monitor : https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-27-curved-gaming-monitor-s2722dgm/apd/210-azzp/monitors-monitor-accessories18:30
devuanconsumerI don't see anything about horizontal or vertical refresh rates18:31
devuanconsumer Here is the Native Resolution QHD 2560 x 1440 (DisplayPort: 165 Hz, HDMI: 144 Hz)18:32
gnarfacestand by18:32
gnarfaceit's under the support section18:33
gnarfacein a pdf, i found it18:33
gnarfacegimme a minute to type this up18:33
devuanconsumerok thanks you are the bomb18:35
devuanconsumerI was looking up xorg.conf file examples on the internet18:35
devuanconsumerand was thinking about trying some but i'll go with yours18:36
gnarfaceare you using HDMI or DisplayPort? the refresh ranges are different18:37
devuanconsumerhdmi for that one18:38
devuanconsumerthere is hdmi1 and hdmi218:38
gnarfacethere's two?18:38
gnarfaceyou have two displays at once?18:38
gnarfacethat does complicate things18:38
devuanconsumerno i have one display, with two ports18:38
devuanconsumerand am using the same display for my main computer and the ryzen 795018:38
gnarfaceoh i see18:38
gnarfaceok, whew18:38
devuanconsumeris that ok?18:39
gnarfaceyea, try this then: https://paste.debian.net/1262840/18:39
gnarfacewait, hang on that one isn't perfect18:39
gnarfacethis one: https://paste.debian.net/1262841/18:39
devuanconsumerLMAO18:39
devuanconsumertake advantage of the sections that don't matter lol18:39
devuanconsumerok so i copy that into the xorg.conf and reboot?18:40
gnarfacereplace your current xorg.conf with that then reboot yes (reboot isn't actually necessary but easier to understand)18:41
gnarfaceif it complains about it or doesn't work, just remove it again18:41
gnarfaceit might want a ServerLayout section but we're trying without for now18:41
gnarfacesome of the optional stuff you still sometimes want to use if you don't like default behaviors but i'm picky about these things18:42
gnarfacemy own xorg.conf is ... exhaustive18:42
gnarfacehere's your monitor manual by the way https://dl.dell.com/content/manual3890536-dell-s2722dgm-monitor-user-s-guide.pdf?language=en-us18:43
gnarfaceyou should download that pdf and keep a copy locally18:43
gnarfaceif you switch to DisplayPort later you're gonna want it as a reference18:43
gnarfacein my experience auto-detect doesn't usually do this stuff perfectly so if you want optimal behavior you still have to be explicit about certain things18:44
gnarfacealso you should install mesa-utils if you haven't already, because it'll pull in most of the critical hardware-acceleration librarires18:47
gnarfacelibraries*18:47
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: ^18:47
devuanconsumerthank you. I am waiting for it to load. It's blinking with a _18:47
gnarfaceuh... none of this should have affected boot18:48
gnarfaceis it still just stuck?18:49
gnarface???18:49
devuanconsumeryeah18:49
gnarfacesigh18:49
gnarfaceyou had a gui login setup?18:49
devuanconsumerit just got stuck after I decrypted LUKS18:49
devuanconsumerwith password18:50
gnarfacethis shouldn't have affected boot, but if your HDMI cable can't handle the max res it might have affected the GUI18:50
gnarfacewhat does ctrl+alt+f2 do?18:50
devuanconsumerit prompts me to login through text18:50
gnarfaceoh, well this really should not have changed anything18:51
gnarfacethe boot process doesn't read this file18:51
gnarfacedid you change anything else before rebooting?18:51
gnarfaceif not, you're gonna need to backup the xorg log file and move the xorg.conf out of the way and reboot again18:53
gnarfaceand i will need to see that xorg log to see what went wrong18:53
gnarfacefirst guess is your HDMI cable can't carry 2560x1440, i assume it's not one that came with the monitor?18:54
gnarfacei hope you have another boot disk around, like a live image or the installer disk or just even another machine you can write one from ...18:55
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: ^^18:55
devuanconsumerhttps://ibb.co/cTnNQqH18:56
devuanconsumerhere is a picture of the error18:56
devuanconsumeron the log18:56
gnarfacesigh, don't trust that either, can you use imgur.com instead?18:56
gnarfacei have... reasons18:56
devuanconsumerYES for sure18:56
gnarfacewait so you were able to log in after ctrl+alt+f2 or what?18:56
gnarfacei didn't see you say how you got past the blinking "_"18:57
devuanconsumerwhat other websites do you trust? i can't upload to imgur18:59
gnarfacenote, imgur.com makes it seem like you have to sign up but you do not have to sign up18:59
gnarfacejust click on the upload button on the front and it'll let you post anonymously19:00
devuanconsumeryes i logged in to the text version19:00
gnarfacehere do this19:00
gnarfacemove the xorg log to your home directory19:00
gnarfacethen move xorg conf to your home directory too19:00
gnarfacethen reboot again and log in normally and you can just use paste.debian.net for the error as normal19:01
gnarfacemake sense?19:01
gnarfaceyou might actually just be able to get the GUI up by running "startx" though after moving the xorg.conf out of the way19:02
gnarfacedon't delete it, just back it up somewhere19:02
gnarfacea full reboot should not typically be necessary19:02
gnarfacebut make sure whatever you do that you back up the log too so we can see it, because when you start the gui again it'll be overwritten19:03
devuanconsumerhttps://imgur.com/a/BoxSFN819:03
gnarfacenone of those are errors, that's all fine19:03
gnarfacescroll down to the bottom19:04
gnarfaceyou're looking for lines with (EE) in them, specifically19:04
devuanconsumerok19:06
devuanconsumerit says no screen found19:06
devuanconsumerscreen 0 deleted because of no matching config section19:06
gnarfacehmm19:06
devuanconsumerdevices detected, but none match those in the config file19:06
devuanconsumerno screens found19:06
gnarfaceok, stand by, revision 2 coming19:07
devuanconsumerplease check the log file for additional revisions19:07
devuanconsumerso is the screen name incorrect?19:07
gnarfaceyou might just be able to delete the line:     Identifier    "Screen0"19:07
devuanconsumerok i can do that19:07
gnarfacetry that while i work on a more complete config file for you19:08
devuanconsumeri tried it and rebooted. It didn't work19:10
devuanconsumerIt loaded the text login screen19:10
gnarfacedifferent error though right? what error?19:10
devuanconsumerlet me check19:11
devuanconsumerit says problem parsing the config file19:12
devuanconsumerno screens found19:12
devuanconsumererror parsing the config file19:12
gnarfaceok, stand by, just cleaning up something based on my config19:12
devuanconsumeryou have a paypal?19:13
devuanconsumeryou've helped me a lot19:13
devuanconsumerlet me send you something ;P19:13
gnarfacehttps://paste.debian.net/1262850/19:14
gnarfacehere, try this config19:14
gnarfaceand actually when you try that, REMOVE the "amdgpu" from your /etc/modules file, i'm really not sure it should be preloaded like that, i vaguely remember it could cause problems19:15
gnarfacebut use this xorg.conf verbatim19:15
gnarfaceyou should not have needed to blacklist "radeon" either just fyi19:15
gnarfacei can't be sure that won't cause problems either19:16
gnarfacebut at least this xorg.conf file shouldn't have any parse errors or missing sections19:16
devuanconsumerok so i'll undo all the changes they had me do and copy your xorg.conf19:16
gnarfaceyes19:16
gnarfacedid you install mesa-utils already?19:16
devuanconsumeri will if its not on boot up19:17
devuanconsumerlet me try19:17
gnarfacei am not sure what all changes you made, don't uninstall anything, just remove the blacklist of radeon and the preload of amdgpu19:17
gnarfacewe're trying to match my working systems here as closely as possible19:18
devuanconsumerno other changes made19:19
devuanconsumeri left the synaptic packages default (AMD/Radeon)19:19
devuanconsumerits booting now19:19
devuanconsumeroops19:19
devuanconsumeri mean my computer is loading just barely going to login to put changes in xorg19:20
devuanconsumerdo i need to have mesa-utils-extra installed?19:28
devuanconsumerwhat about firmware-amd-graphics19:28
devuanconsumermesa-utils was already installed19:28
devuanconsumerafter this i reboot19:28
gnarfaceyou do need firmware-amd-graphics, i don't have mesa-utils-extra should not be necessary... other stuff you might be missing is just for some games (vulkan libraries might not be present by default but "mesa-utils" should have got you everything for most opengl and video i think)19:29
gnarfaceif you have mesa-utils and firmware-amd-graphics i think none of the other missing mesa stuff should affect xorg just coming up right19:30
gnarfaceit would just be for like wine or support for certain video players/codecs that might be missing in addition to that19:31
gnarfacei think you're good to reboot19:31
gnarfaceif i'm wrong the xorg log will let you know19:33
devuanconsumeryes19:33
devuanconsumerit's saying that i need it while loading stuff19:33
devuanconsumerok let me install and try again19:34
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: here's the ones i have installed, ignore versions (i'm on unstable) and :i386 duplicates (they're for wine and steam) https://paste.debian.net/1262855/19:37
gnarfacemain parts of the base package names should be mostly unchanged for you though19:37
gnarfaceparticularly, make sure you have libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx, but i had assumed mesa-utils or firmware-amd-graphics would get those for you already19:40
divad27182still at it, I see.19:41
gnarfaceyea :-/ always a struggle the first time19:42
devuanconsumerfuck19:45
devuanconsumernow it freezes and doesn't even login19:45
devuanconsumerhere is a picture19:46
devuanconsumerhttps://imgur.com/a/9eMmze419:46
gnarfacehmm, you're on stable?19:47
gnarfacei wonder if you need the backports kernel and firmware19:47
gnarfaceyou might need a newer kernel and firmware to support this hardware19:48
gnarfacesorry you'll have to move the xorg.conf out of the way again but don't delete it19:48
gnarfaceyou got your install disk or a live cd to recover from?19:48
onefangI did need the stable-backports kernel for my newish AMD graphics card.19:49
onefangBut I'm off to bed now.19:49
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: yea, seems likely you'll need the backports kernel and firmware-amd-graphics19:49
devuanconsumerok19:49
devuanconsumerlet me try loggin in with the old kernal19:49
devuanconsumerand i do have a live disk19:49
gnarfaceyou should be able to access the harddrive from the live disk to move the xorg.conf out of the way19:51
devuanconsumerq19:53
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: don't panic, i know it doesn't look like it but this is actually progress19:54
devuanconsumerok i logged back in19:57
devuanconsumerwith the old kernal19:57
devuanconsumernow what19:57
devuanconsumeri double check that i have all the same drivers installed19:57
devuanconsumerand then in the mean time tell me how to install backports kernel19:57
gnarfacealright, we'll install the backports kernel for you, first paste.debian.net your /etc/apt/sources.list file just so i can sanity check it before i tell you what to add19:57
devuanconsumerok lol19:59
devuanconsumerhttps://paste.debian.net/126285920:03
devuanconsumerhere it is20:03
gnarfacehmm, yikes, you got experimental in there, not sure how safe that is20:03
gnarfacebut you already have backports it looks like so no changes should be necessary20:03
devuanconsumeri'll remove it20:04
gnarfacejust comment it out by adding a # to the start of the line20:04
devuanconsumerok sounds good20:05
devuanconsumernow what do i do next20:05
gnarfacealright, try this, but before you say "Y" just paste here in channel what it says it's gonna install first: apt-get update && apt-get -t chimaera-backports --no-install-recommends install linux-image-amd64 firmware-amd-graphics20:06
gnarfacei wanna make sure it's gonna get the right thing20:06
gnarface(we might have to actually pick a kernel by name specifically, that "linux-image-amd64" is just a meta-package, and i'm not sure it's defined for backports)20:09
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: ^20:11
devuanconsumerit just says20:13
devuanconsumerthe following packages will be upgraded20:13
devuanconsumerlinux-image-amd6420:13
devuanconsumercan i go into synaptic and install it there?20:13
gnarfacei am not sure, i don't use synaptic... does it have a way for you to see backports packages ?20:14
devuanconsumeri can see linux-images there20:14
gnarfaceneed to know which versions20:14
devuanconsumerwhich version must i install?20:14
gnarfacei don't know specifically but if you tell me the highest version shown i'll know if it's enough20:14
gnarfacestock is 5.10 and the backports one should be significantly higher than .1020:15
gnarfacebut you need to make sure you have the backports version of firmware-amd-graphics to match20:15
devuanconsumeroh ok20:18
devuanconsumerso there are 5.1820:19
devuanconsumer5.1920:19
devuanconsumerand 6.020:19
devuanconsumerwhich should i install?20:19
devuanconsumer5.19?20:19
gnarfacehere, from the command line this search should work: apt-cache -t chimaera-backports search ^linux-image20:19
gnarfacei'm not sure if you're also seeing experimental in there, make sure it's just the backports one20:19
gnarfacei think all 3 should be new enough but i don't want you to also introduce extra instability20:20
devuanconsumerhttps://paste.debian.net/126286220:21
devuanconsumerhere is the output20:21
gnarfacewell looks like the latest is 6.0, so if you want that one use this: apt-get -t chimaera-backports --no-install-recommends install linux-image-6.0.0-0.deb11.2-amd64 firmware-amd-graphics20:22
gnarfaceif you prefer 5.18 or 5.19 use linux-image-5.18.0-0.deb11.4-amd64 or linux-image-5.19.0-0.deb11.2-amd64 in place of the 6.0 one20:23
gnarfaceignore the rest of them, they're for other purposes20:23
gnarfacethis change will require a reboot20:24
gnarfacebut don't put the xorg.conf back on the first try, make sure it even boots first20:24
devuanconsumeryeah so it looks like thats the one i have installed20:24
gnarfaceyou already had 6.0 installed?? what does "uname -a" say?20:25
devuanconsumeri just booted into the 5.10 because with the firmware-amd-graphics it didn't boot20:25
devuanconsumerafter i added your xorg.conf20:25
gnarfacewell keep in mind that if you tried to use the stable firmware-amd-graphics version with the backports kernel it might not have worked20:26
devuanconsumerah20:26
devuanconsumerso i should uninstall it20:26
devuanconsumerand then try it with your xorg.conf then20:26
devuanconsumeri think i tried that already and it didn't work lol20:26
devuanconsumerlet me try again20:26
devuanconsumeri'll uninstall the firmware-amd-graphics20:26
gnarfacewell you should install the backports version of firmware-amd-graphics20:26
gnarfaceit won't work without it either20:26
devuanconsumerok do i have to boot into the new kernel and do it like that?20:27
devuanconsumerin synaptic?20:27
gnarfaceit might seem to work by falling back on a more generic driver20:27
gnarfacewon't matter if you do it with 1 or 2 reboots, give it a try20:27
gnarfacehow new is this hardware exactly?20:27
devuanconsumerthe motherboard is from last month20:28
devuanconsumergpu ryzen 7950x is from september 202220:28
devuanconsumerapu*20:29
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: lol i pushed the wrong button and accidentally shut my computer down, if you responded i missed it sorry20:33
hagbard[20:28:48] <devuanconsumer> the motherboard is from last month20:37
hagbard[20:28:58] <devuanconsumer> gpu ryzen 7950x is from september 202220:37
hagbard[20:29:07] <devuanconsumer> apu*20:37
gnarfacewow i wonder if even the 6.0 kernel in backports isn't new enough?20:38
gnarface(thanks hagbard)20:38
devuanconsumerwell the backports20:38
devuanconsumerdid enable the cpu temps20:38
devuanconsumerthat were available with 5.1020:39
devuanconsumerso thats a plus20:39
devuanconsumerso i installed the amd firmware and it still didn't boot20:39
devuanconsumerthe latest is 202120:39
devuanconsumerso i had to login with the old kernel20:39
devuanconsumerim going to just try to install the mesa libraries you have20:39
devuanconsumerand try it with the old kernel 5.1020:39
gnarfacewell do try with all those libraries but it's possible that you're gonna need an even newer kernel or firmware than what's in the repos, you're gonna have to consult some forums or mailing lists about that... this should be a known quantity just not one i know off the top of my head20:40
gnarfacei'm totally jealous of your gear though20:40
gnarfacewith the generic modesetting driver you should be fine you just won't get optimal performance20:41
gnarfacethey'll probably have an update out in a month or two20:41
gnarfaceif you're into building kernels maybe there's source you can compile to make it work but that's gonna take more time than i have at the moment to walk you through that20:42
gnarfacesorry we didn't get it working though, i was hoping it'd be easy20:42
gnarfacethere's nothing like seeing the desktop come up at full resolution for the first time on new hardware20:42
devuanconsumerthanks gnarface20:48
devuanconsumeri'm happy with the temps for now!20:48
devuanconsumerthanks for helping me out!20:48
gnarfaceno problem, let us know if you figure out the rest of it20:49
devuanconsumerhow did you get newer versions of the mesa files20:53
devuanconsumeri dont see the same versions in synaptic package manager20:53
devuanconsumergnarface20:53
gnarfacedevuanconsumer: oh, i'm on ceres (unstable) and i wouldn't recommend it but there's always the possibility it has something even newer than backports that might help you, it's just that usually even unstable is about 6 months behind reality and your hardware is so very new20:55

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