| Joerg-Neo900 | ugh, never noticed that. Maybe because on my client I use proportional font that renders any ascii art completely useless and garbled fubar | 01:57 |
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| Joerg-Neo900 | nah, can't even find any garbled stuff. Wonder where it vanished | 01:58 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | ugh, 5.chimera.network.irc.com, sounds like another network all together. not FN | 01:59 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | if it was my call, I'd prefer to not have any ascii art anywhere | 02:00 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | in FN it's a ban-able offense in most channels to post any ascii art. So maybe motd shouldn't do either | 02:01 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | ooh wait, seems even FN has ascii art in motd | 02:06 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | occasionally, on some of their servers | 02:07 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | My point still stands | 02:07 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | yeah, Kornbluth MOTD has: https://i.imgur.com/zA3Gk0s.png | 02:12 |
| cantelope | should look right with a fixed width font | 02:17 |
| cantelope | having some kind of logo or branding in the server welcome text is a long standing IRC tradition. I don't care if we keep it or not, but if we decide to keep it it should be fixed. I'm seeing there's 1 missing char from the bottom line | 02:17 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | sure, if there's any, it should at least look right | 02:17 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | :-) | 02:18 |
| cantelope | you can use linux figlet to generate it | 02:18 |
| cantelope | :D | 02:18 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | yeah, used that for my shell DMM :-D | 02:18 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | readout of my KeySight DMM in a supposedly 280PT size | 02:19 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | half screen height | 02:19 |
| cantelope | https://lookie.ml/uploads/CDe1e.png | 02:20 |
| cantelope | 280pt! madness | 02:21 |
| cantelope | oh! | 02:22 |
| cantelope | i think i know what's happening | 02:22 |
| cantelope | the \\ on the bottom line is being interpreted as an escape char | 02:22 |
| cantelope | so it will need \\\\ | 02:23 |
| cantelope | there are bound to be bugs to work out | 02:24 |
| cantelope | are we getting close to launch tho? | 02:24 |
| dan- | yeah should be, prawn'd have better info on it tho | 02:32 |
| dan- | plugging away with docs, etc~ | 02:33 |
| dan- | (gosh there's lots of docs to write up) | 02:33 |
| cantelope | hm. I was an English major briefly, before switching to computer science. if there's anything I can do... | 02:37 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | eternal fame will be your reward :-) Seems there's not (or hardly) any such doc existing yet, despite woefully needed | 02:38 |
| dan- | aha eternal fame would definitely be cool~ yeah the docs have slipped for a fairly long while on irc proto stuff | 04:22 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | are there chances to get those docs RFCed maybe? | 10:52 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | dan-: ^^^ | 10:53 |
| dan- | Joerg-Neo900: yeah we're working on it, i.e. this is the ctcp doc that grawity and I have written up. have to write changes to it, push those to the IETF and then get it re-submitted to the ISE for it to be taken forward: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-oakley-irc-ctcp-02 | 10:54 |
| dan- | the current best bet for getting a new IRC RFC is the modern docs that I've been working on independently for the past couple years or so now: https://modern.ircdocs.horse/index.html | 10:55 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | oh, that "horse" is yours? :-D | 10:56 |
| dan- | main thing with the modern docs is just that... writing up how IRC commands and numerics behave in the real world, and double-checking with real-world servers and clients, and all that sort of thing, takes a fair bit of time. enough that just doing it independently takes aaaages. the good thing about this is that we can cross-share all sorts of stuff (modern and defs stuff's helping me writing up the irc.com docs | 10:56 |
| dan- | too~): https://modern.ircdocs.horse/index.html | 10:56 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | it's definitely the only IRC docs that I know of which are useful | 10:57 |
| dan- | aha yepyep, ircdocs.horse is all mine~ | 10:57 |
| dan- | thanke, much appreciated. glad it's been useful | 10:57 |
| dan- | next main thing I wanna get on there is to have the ole' IRC dev mailing lists split out properly and put on there, have collected archives from a fair few sources but honestly it's really damn hard to just browse through them. wanna chuck 'em all online in a nice, browsable way and have a section where I can point to the really useful / interesting / influential posts (have thrown the source files up here: | 10:59 |
| dan- | https://archive.org/details/irc.mailing.lists ) | 10:59 |
| dan- | got like a week into the project and then my old laptop died, took the scripts I was working on to assemble it with it. didn't lose any data at least, whoo uploading stuff | 10:59 |
| Joerg-Neo900 | dang! bad luck | 11:01 |
| dan- | aha yeah, these days I commit stuff a fair bit more often to try and make sure. but yeah, intent is to eventually make a new RFC, this'll let me really nail down a lot of stuff I haven't had the time to investigate working on my own | 11:03 |
| prawnsalad | Joerg-Neo900 cantelope, yea theres a bug in the ircd motd reading causing certain chars to go funny. Sadie has that on their todo list | 11:42 |
| prawnsalad | also, Joerg-Neo900, irc.com /is/ a different network than freenode. building up alongside the snoonet network | 11:43 |
| prawnsalad | we should be launching more info on the website today hopefully, finally :o | 11:44 |
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