| freemangordon | hmm, I added that hidden network from control panel, but it does not appear in the status menu list of networks | 00:05 |
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| Wizzup | well, wpa_supplicant won't list it as part of it's scan results | 00:05 |
| Wizzup | remind me, does a hidden network just not list it's ssid, or does it also not broadcast | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | actually, I think it does | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | just not list ssid | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | IIUC | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | it lists it with empty ssid | 00:06 |
| Wizzup | if you type scan_results in 'wpa_cli', it the bssid shown? | 00:06 |
| Wizzup | s/it the/is the/ | 00:06 |
| freemangordon | no wpa_cli here | 00:07 |
| freemangordon | but I dont; think wpa_supplicant is to blame | 00:07 |
| uvos | yes hidden ssids just dont list ssid they do broadcast | 00:08 |
| Wizzup | well, it is possible that libicd-network-wpasupplicant doesn't do the right thing | 00:08 |
| uvos | its the most useless security feature eve | 00:08 |
| uvos | r | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | no, it is connui | 00:08 |
| freemangordon | but I'll investigate tomorrow | 00:08 |
| Wizzup | is it aka 'privacy' ? | 00:09 |
| freemangordon | enough for today, good night | 00:09 |
| Wizzup | no, that's a WEP thing | 00:09 |
| Wizzup | ok, gn | 00:09 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: so it looks like gconfmap.c in libicd-network-wpasupplicant doesn't handle wlan_hidden gconf keys yet | 00:10 |
| Wizzup | this can be/become a problem when trying to connect | 00:10 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: but, before that, this network should be selectable in the list | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | it is not | 00:11 |
| freemangordon | gn | 00:11 |
| brabo | rasengan took over a shitload of primary channels. i also got my first kline ever on freenode in over 15 years | 05:26 |
| [TheBug] | So nice of freenode to ban every channel with 'Libera' in their topic :facepalm: | 07:52 |
| lightbringer | indeed | 08:03 |
| freemangordon | brabo: I had some popcorn reading through chanlogs where you (and some others) were 'discussing' on FN with current 'staff' :). | 08:03 |
| freemangordon | but we're on the other side already, so... | 08:03 |
| brabo | freemangordon: oh well, i hope the logs were entertaining! | 08:06 |
| brabo | and it is sad that freenode of all places turned into a dumpsterfire, but i like dumpsterfires, they can warm you :p | 08:06 |
| brabo | i am honestly amazed, it took a shitload of effort to get klined | 08:07 |
| brabo | i was first being nice about it | 08:07 |
| brabo | that didn't work.. | 08:07 |
| brabo | i just guess almost 2 weeks of asking things more or less nice and certain actions of the new clearly very competent staff got me to be more blunt.. | 08:09 |
| * enyc meows | 09:14 | |
| parazyd | uvos: Please give me a list of packages you want build permission for. | 09:15 |
| parazyd | brabo, freemangordon: They already killed off #maemo-leste on Freenode | 09:15 |
| parazyd | It's good that we moved | 09:15 |
| enyc | o dear ;p | 09:28 |
| enyc | [Global Notice] In the recent policy enforcement, some channels were erroneously | 09:28 |
| enyc | hehe | 09:28 |
| enyc | included. We greatly apologize for the inconvenience. | 09:28 |
| brabo | parazyd: yes | 09:46 |
| brabo | enyc: excuses after the fact do not make them seem any better, or any more competent than they seemed.. | 09:46 |
| brabo | if it was an isolated incidence, and they made it right (##hntop) then maybe | 09:47 |
| brabo | but they refused to make that one right so.. | 09:47 |
| enyc | brabo: maybe so... wondering in larger social-sense why all this mess/takeover has happened at all..... | 10:10 |
| brabo | enyc: rasengan is just trying to save the users | 10:11 |
| brabo | honestly | 10:11 |
| brabo | the policy violations surely were done in good faith | 10:12 |
| brabo | /end sarcasm | 10:12 |
| uvos | can we in additon to https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc.txt have something like https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc-this-weak.txt | 10:13 |
| uvos | to make irc.txt more usable | 10:13 |
| uvos | qpsrecorder, fbkeyboard, charge-mode, droid4-wlanconfig, ti-utils-wilink6, hildon-desktop-rotation-support, iio-sensor-proxy + salutem when you import it, are "my" packages that i currently have no access to. | 10:21 |
| uvos | i'd also take mce, libsdl1.2 and mbwm/h-d but i guess that needs more discussion. | 10:22 |
| uvos | parazyd: ^^^ | 10:22 |
| parazyd | uvos: ok, I have a meeting now so will try to look at it after. | 10:51 |
| Wizzup | The trick where you online the modem, then fill in the pin code, and then use the modem doesn't work if you want a data context - they don't show up this way | 11:03 |
| Wizzup | on the d4 that is | 11:04 |
| Wizzup | uvos: got gps lock in a moving train and it's keeping up nicely with 130km/h | 11:24 |
| uvos | Wizzup: the distance indicator or the fixed speed indicator or both? | 11:25 |
| Wizzup | uvos: the speed one | 11:30 |
| Wizzup | I dindn't apt upgrade yet | 11:30 |
| parazyd | uvos: Regarding irc.txt, there is https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/ | 12:11 |
| parazyd | uvos: Or do you want it in a .txt file? Do you parse it with something? | 12:11 |
| uvos | https://libera.irclog.whitequark.org/maemo-leste/2021-05-26 dosent work on mobile at all (ie on our devices) and pretty poor navigation, as you cant easly switch to today or to yesterday etc | 12:13 |
| uvos | https://freenode.logbot.info/maemo-leste/ was great but as its gohne now irc.txt wroks best on mobile | 12:13 |
| uvos | execpet its to long | 12:13 |
| parazyd | ok I'll try to set something up | 12:14 |
| uvos | simply also logging to another txt file with a cron job to delete every mon at 04:00 or something would suffice | 12:14 |
| uvos | for me | 12:14 |
| parazyd | Yeah my thought as well | 12:14 |
| parazyd | test | 12:17 |
| parazyd | uvos: https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc-this-week.txt | 12:17 |
| uvos | test | 12:19 |
| uvos | seams to work | 12:19 |
| uvos | thanks | 12:19 |
| uvos | when dose it roll over? | 12:19 |
| parazyd | every monday at 04:00 :p | 12:20 |
| uvos | GMT? | 12:20 |
| uvos | ok :) | 12:20 |
| parazyd | BST | 12:20 |
| uvos | ok | 12:20 |
| tmlind | nice :) | 12:31 |
| tmlind | anybody got a script snippet handy to translate the log file dates to some tz time? | 12:33 |
| tmlind | date? | 12:33 |
| tmlind | date @1622025105 seems to do the trick | 12:34 |
| parazyd | Yeah that's it | 12:34 |
| tmlind | actually date -d @1622024351 | 12:37 |
| sixwheeledbeast | would be locale time tho | 12:46 |
| parazyd | It's a universal timestamp | 12:47 |
| parazyd | date(1) will tell you the time in your timezone as you wish. | 12:47 |
| sixwheeledbeast | yer | 12:48 |
| sixwheeledbeast | date --utc -d foo would output UTC is what mean | 12:50 |
| tmlind | ah right | 12:52 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: didn't you check several years ago about what n900 modem is reading from the onenand, what was the conclusion? | 14:07 |
| tmlind | just wondering how droid4 gets the modem configuration, sounds like bootloader gets it from the config partition or something like that | 14:08 |
| Wizzup | hmm, modem jumps frequently from one cellid to another, causing gprs to not be attached | 14:29 |
| Wizzup | I have to re-activate the data connection every few minutes | 14:29 |
| parazyd | Funny a similar thing happens to me on Android, when cellid changes, the usbnet route drops and I have to re-add it :D | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | hm, well, this is not usbnet | 14:30 |
| Wizzup | I mean there's a few things to work on that will all make this easier | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | it's just that when gprs becomes not attached, ofono disables all contexts I think | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | I suppose icd2 could keep trying or something | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | like the n900 puts a red cross on the data for a bit | 14:31 |
| parazyd | *nod* | 14:32 |
| Wizzup | hibernate-ram seemed to work on the n900 | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | er | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | d4 | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | when it woke up X crashed,but still | 14:38 |
| Wizzup | I didn't expect it to go to sleep to be honest | 14:38 |
| tmlind | do you mane suspend to ram? yeah that needs more work at least for the modem afaik | 14:52 |
| tmlind | s/mane/mean/ | 14:52 |
| joerg | what about chanlogs? | 15:17 |
| joerg | ooh I see whitequark fixed his stuff, so nevermind | 15:18 |
| * asriel waves | 16:32 | |
| Wizzup | hi! | 16:32 |
| asriel | what's up, just registered on libera and oftc, now currently waiting for matrix bridge :) | 16:33 |
| asriel | very unfortunate about the freenode incident though | 16:33 |
| Wizzup | very sad | 16:34 |
| parazyd | They took over our freenode channel btw. | 16:46 |
| Wizzup | yeah | 16:46 |
| Wizzup | I'm in the 'community channel' reminding people to come here | 16:46 |
| asriel | i've heard of that yep, they basically took over any channels that mentions about "libera" | 16:47 |
| asriel | surprisingly, not oftc | 16:47 |
| Wizzup | brb ~30 mins | 16:47 |
| parazyd | Yeah because it's a personal ageneda | 16:47 |
| parazyd | *agenda | 16:47 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: on ne900 modem has no access to onenand, so whatever config it needs is loaded by daemons | 16:51 |
| freemangordon | it is attached to SSI and a couple of gpios and that's it | 16:51 |
| Armen | hey... did freenode just hijack the old channel? | 16:52 |
| freemangordon | yes | 16:52 |
| Armen | what the heck | 16:52 |
| asriel | they absolutely did because the channel topic has libera in it | 16:52 |
| freemangordon | but we're here so no drama | 16:52 |
| asriel | one question, who runs the "community channel" now? | 16:52 |
| parazyd | asriel: Prefer not to care. We're here now. | 16:54 |
| Armen | I had heard about freenode hijacking channels that were migrating away, but I didn't quite believe it. What a way to push away the last of their user base | 16:54 |
| Danct12 | asriel it's currently owned by a placeholder account but yeah, let's not care about it | 16:55 |
| uvos | parazyd: https://maedevu.maemo.org/irc-this-week.txt broke | 17:31 |
| parazyd | Apologies | 17:33 |
| parazyd | Should be back | 17:33 |
| Danct12 | will features from cssu like portrait mode be added to maemo leste? | 17:55 |
| Danct12 | also i'd like to see battery percentage being a thing | 17:55 |
| Wizzup | Danct12: yes, in general, we already have most cssu features | 17:55 |
| Wizzup | The battery percentage should be visible for calibrated batteries (depending on the device) | 17:56 |
| Wizzup | Are you using a N900? | 17:56 |
| Danct12 | yep | 17:56 |
| Wizzup | So the N900 does require a special calibration cycle for battery percentage | 17:56 |
| Wizzup | And portrait mode specifically (and only) does not work on the Nokia N900, because rotating the screen with xrandr breaks the powervr X driver | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | We should probably fix that sometime soon :) | 17:57 |
| Wizzup | https://leste.maemo.org/Nokia_N900#Battery_calibration | 17:57 |
| Danct12 | thanks, can i boot to fremantle after fully charged on leste? since i need the stock os | 18:01 |
| Danct12 | would that affect calibration somehow? | 18:02 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure to be honest, I'm inclined to say it probably won't matter for the calibration since that's in the chip | 18:02 |
| Danct12 | hm, then i might just do that and let you know, thanks | 18:04 |
| Danct12 | i'd like to retire this n900 when the pinephone keyboard comes out :) | 18:04 |
| Wizzup | It won't get as good battery life, but yeah | 18:05 |
| Wizzup | I'm also looking forward to the keyboard | 18:06 |
| parazyd | https://github.com/pulls?q=is%3Apr+user%3Amaemo-leste-translations+archived%3Afalse+is%3Aclosed | 18:10 |
| parazyd | Lots of localization contributions btw. | 18:10 |
| Danct12 | i might also sell the n900 too, since it looks worse and worse :P | 18:11 |
| Danct12 | especially the flaky lock switch and the (yet to fail) microusb port | 18:11 |
| Wizzup | Danct12: double pressing the power button does the same as lock | 18:13 |
| diejuse | You might consider adding the ability to move through hildon desktop applications with the cursor keys. :) | 18:59 |
| sicelo | ditto, yes N900 battery calibration is maintained throughout OSes. Fremantle always shows percentage even if battery is not calibrated though | 19:15 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: does wpa icd2 module sends saved entries as a result in scan response? | 20:06 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: saved how? | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | in gconf | 20:08 |
| Wizzup | I don't think it does, not if they're not visible | 20:08 |
| freemangordon | see https://pastebin.com/FNTmUmZ3 | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | I wonder where afa5e7f9-ae1b-42e3-95ab-0f1d1d8d68e8 comes from | 20:09 |
| freemangordon | this is saved hidden wlan | 20:09 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: well, it does match against known entries I think | 20:12 |
| Wizzup | Let me look | 20:12 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: why this https://github.com/maemo-leste/libicd-network-wpasupplicant/blob/master/src/wlan.c#L491 | 20:12 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: don't recall | 20:13 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: the ssid matching might be problematic to start with, for hidden wlan, no? | 20:16 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: seems you iterate saved iaps | 20:16 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: yes, to match against known ones | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | because in such a case we have to return the user picked name for the SSID | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | yes, but this does not work :) | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | that's my issue | 20:17 |
| Wizzup | for hidden wlan you mean? | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | yes | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | you return uuid instead if the saved name | 20:17 |
| freemangordon | *of the | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | May 26 20:46:01 localhost icd2 0.97[7577]: sending ICD_SCAN_NOTIFY nw WLAN_INFRA/50000a1/afa5e7f9-ae1b-42e3-95ab-0f1d1d8d68e8 srv -/-/- | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I think the saved name matching should be fixed by not comparing ssid's but rather something else | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | although I don't think we save bssids, which likely also doesn't make sense | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | so I am not sure what we can match on for hidden wlan? | 20:18 |
| freemangordon | somehow you match it | 20:18 |
| Wizzup | I need to read up on this and figure out how this works again, I'm not giving particularly useful answers | 20:19 |
| freemangordon | if (strcmp(net->wlan_ssid, ssid) == 0) | 20:20 |
| Wizzup | yes, but how can the scan know the ssid of the hidden ap? | 20:20 |
| Danct12 | does it take longer to charge on leste? | 20:21 |
| Danct12 | or it's the same as fremantle | 20:21 |
| Wizzup | Danct12: hmmmm, potentially on the n900 it might take longer, I don't remember if we allow speed charging | 20:21 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: no idea, but somehow it works | 20:21 |
| freemangordon | will try the latest master, to see some logs from the module | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: is this the last part of the puzzle? | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | not sure | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | It might make sense to look at dbus and see what wpa_supplicant reports for your AP | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | but the end result is that this saved hidden net results in an empty net added to the list | 20:22 |
| Wizzup | get_bss_info in src/wpaicd.c seems to suggest it's SSID in dbus | 20:22 |
| freemangordon | which can be clicked :) | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: ah, does it connect? | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | no, because it doesn't know what to connect to (no name) I guess | 20:23 |
| freemangordon | but lets first try to fix missing name | 20:23 |
| Wizzup | if you run icd2 in a shell you should see the module print to stderr | 20:24 |
| Wizzup | look after fprintf(stderr, "wlan_bring_up: %s\n", network_id); | 20:24 |
| freemangordon | but you have a commit replacing printf fir ILOG | 20:25 |
| freemangordon | *for | 20:25 |
| Wizzup | Ah. | 20:26 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: then it should be in syslog, no? | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | going to check | 20:26 |
| freemangordon | whaat? | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | May 26 21:25:18 localhost icd2 0.97[26497]: 'afa5e7f9-ae1b-42e3-95ab-0f1d1d8d68e8' type 'WLAN_INFRA' ICD_STATUS_CHANGED_SIG with status CONNECTED, '' sent to '(null)' | 20:27 |
| Danct12 | anyway to calibrate the display also? | 20:27 |
| Wizzup | Danct12: xinput_calibrate (or similar name) | 20:27 |
| freemangordon | hmm, it says so, but it is not really connected | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | btw, that does not come libicd-network-wpasupplicant module | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | anything before that? | 20:28 |
| freemangordon | trying to ge some more sane logs | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | *get | 20:32 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: oh, false alarm | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | afa5e7f9-ae1b-42e3-95ab-0f1d1d8d68e8 is my router, nit the hidden wlan | 20:34 |
| freemangordon | sorry for the noise | 20:34 |
| Wizzup | np | 20:36 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: any hint what to modify so scan to return no networks? | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | do you mean no scan results? | 20:46 |
| freemangordon | hmm, if I delete dummy network, no empty network is added | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | odd | 20:47 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 20:47 |
| Wizzup | maybe the dummy network interacts somehow with the hidden wlan | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | since they both have no name (?) | 20:49 |
| freemangordon | dummy net has a name | 20:52 |
| sicelo | Danct12: put in 950 in sysfs - charge_current or something | 21:01 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: please file a bug for those problems if you want me to take a look | 21:45 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: sure | 21:54 |
| * enyc meows | 22:04 | |
| * enyc notices no other news for a while but the funding news and irc channel move news! | 22:07 | |
| enyc | "More concretely, in the scope of DAPSI, we will work on supporting various interfaces in the Telepathy framework: XMPP, GNU Jami, Matrix, and Signal messenger." | 22:07 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: my last commit is the reason for that empty net, I will fix it in a minute | 22:11 |
| Wizzup | ack | 22:11 |
| enyc | ..... does this mean somehow-or-other having a unified addressbook/contacts across all the underpininng interfaces. | 22:13 |
| enyc | telepathy-signal is an interesting concept, I'm not sure how co-operative Signal are / will be though | 22:14 |
| enyc | "not actively hostile" but I understand their attitude has been basicalyl 'doing their own thing' in FOSS-code and avoiding some classes of complexity that way... Where Matrix work to have much wider spec and so-forth...1 | 22:16 |
| inky | uvos, i think we need to work with you on integrating xmodmap as well. | 22:22 |
| inky | i don't know if you should call it with system() or there is a function call you can use. | 22:22 |
| inky | i guess there is a function call because setxkbmap uses it. | 22:23 |
| inky | oh, god, i didn't mean xmodmap, i meant setxkbmap. | 22:23 |
| uvos | inky sure i would just use the xkb extension to set the map thats not the problem | 22:25 |
| uvos | i have not looked into the issue at all yet | 22:25 |
| uvos | but mostly we have to find a map that is appropriate to the vkb we want to use | 22:25 |
| uvos | im not sure how to do this best | 22:25 |
| uvos | we could either have a lut somewhere that tells us vkb input lang = this xkeymap | 22:26 |
| uvos | or the vkb could type untill it finds a utf char that it cant get a xkeycode for from x | 22:26 |
| uvos | and then switch the map or modify it if possible to inlcude this char and then continue sending untill it encounters the next char it cant print | 22:27 |
| uvos | the former would be easier | 22:27 |
| uvos | the latter is mutch better | 22:27 |
| uvos | currently for instance on the us vkb layout it fails to print the EUR sign becuase the us xkb layout dosent include this | 22:28 |
| uvos | we would likely runn into this issue all over the place with implementation 1 | 22:28 |
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