| Pali | marex: Hi! Ok, lets wait for freemangordon | 09:34 |
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| parazyd | uvos: Yes, I have that theme thing in my todo. | 09:38 |
| lel | parazyd transferred a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-theme-devel | 09:41 |
| uvos | parazyd: great | 10:31 |
| uvos | tmlind: to get the d4's earpiece to work in a voice call you have to set the mixer like mapphone ucm2 dose in this case (see https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/blob/master/leste-config-mapphone/usr/share/alsa/ucm2/Mapphone_Audio/VoiceCall.conf.leste) write 0x1 to cpcap register 0x081c | 10:55 |
| Wizzup | uvos: nice find | 10:58 |
| uvos | tmlind: headset usage requries a write of 0x0260 to 0x081c work | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | uvos: are you checking android and comparing? | 11:13 |
| uvos | yes | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | check | 11:13 |
| uvos | i have one device in android and another in leste and was syncing up register state untill it works | 11:13 |
| Wizzup | *nod* | 11:15 |
| uvos | tmlind: ok so android uses 0006 for speakerphone | 11:15 |
| uvos | but that seams to make no difference vs 0x0 | 11:15 |
| uvos | 0x0 is used by android only i hifi mode | 11:15 |
| uvos | *in | 11:15 |
| Wizzup | is cpcap firmware also available somewhere, or is it only something we can poke at by writing to it | 11:16 |
| Wizzup | (in binary form) | 11:16 |
| uvos | afiak its mostly in rom | 11:16 |
| uvos | the kernel uploads some short code snipets to it | 11:17 |
| uvos | those are in dts | 11:17 |
| Wizzup | did anyone try to extract it? | 11:19 |
| uvos | from cpcap rom/on-chip-flash? | 11:19 |
| uvos | no | 11:19 |
| Wizzup | mhm | 11:20 |
| uvos | btw cpcap is also chainging 081c behind the mainline kernels back | 11:57 |
| uvos | looks like unplugging the headphone changes this value | 11:57 |
| uvos | this is why the headphones stop working when you unplugg and then replug them | 11:58 |
| uvos | without changing the mixer settings again | 11:58 |
| uvos | cpcap's hw/fw has changed the value in apearantly a failed attempt to autoswitch the outputs | 11:59 |
| uvos | tmlind: ^^^ | 11:59 |
| uvos | also no omap4 gpio seams to corrispond to the headphone jack being plugged | 11:59 |
| uvos | also no cpcap gpio register seams to corrispond to the headphone jack being plugged | 12:00 |
| uvos | also no other cpcap register seams to corrispond either | 12:00 |
| uvos | not on an android nor on mainline | 12:00 |
| uvos | i guess on android cpcap maybe dose the switching with no input from the omap4 | 12:01 |
| bencoh | uvos: ah, so I'm not the only one with this bug | 12:01 |
| Wizzup | bencoh: no, we all have it :) | 12:01 |
| bencoh | alright | 12:02 |
| Wizzup | it would be good if we could also be notified of it happening in userspace, for audio routing policy to kick in | 12:02 |
| bencoh | I'm trying to remember whether I had it as well before I moved to leste | 12:02 |
| uvos | Wizzup: idk if mapphone hw can do this, atm it sorta looks like no | 12:02 |
| uvos | i guess if we understood cpcap uc we could progamm it to do whatever we want | 12:03 |
| bencoh | uvos: how does android do it then? | 12:03 |
| bencoh | I guess they receive an event of some sort | 12:03 |
| uvos | bencoh: there is a cpcap macro that switches the output automaticly | 12:03 |
| uvos | bencoh: i dont know how andorid knows the plugg state | 12:04 |
| bencoh | something prevents us from re-using it? | 12:04 |
| bencoh | hmm | 12:04 |
| uvos | we could resue the macro yes | 12:04 |
| uvos | then it would switch to headphones automaticly | 12:04 |
| bencoh | but alsa wouldn't know about it | 12:04 |
| uvos | but we have no way of syncing the mixer settings with whatever cpcap dose behind our back | 12:04 |
| bencoh | yeah | 12:04 |
| uvos | right | 12:04 |
| uvos | this is the problem allready | 12:05 |
| * bencoh nods. | 12:05 | |
| uvos | cpcap just disables the headphone output when you unplugg it | 12:05 |
| marex | Pali: Wizzup: freemangordon: it might in fact be better to discuss that in #u-boot and drag sjg1 into it | 12:06 |
| Wizzup | ok, I joined the channel | 12:07 |
| Wizzup | uvos: yeah curious to know how android knows it then | 12:08 |
| Pali | joined | 12:20 |
| tmlind | uvos: interesting, nice debugging :) sounds like we need to add handling for macro interrupts maybe? | 12:21 |
| uvos | tmlind: right there is some macro mailbox | 12:21 |
| uvos | tmlind: that might be where android knows | 12:21 |
| tmlind | uvos: yeah must be something like that | 12:24 |
| uvos | tmlind: anyhow will you add the correct call 081c values or shal i try to fiugre out how the mainline audio driver works? | 12:26 |
| tmlind | uvos: please go for it if you have a chance, i won't be able to look at much anything for several days | 12:27 |
| uvos | ok | 12:27 |
| tmlind | uvos: voice calls are internal to cpcap for alsa, we do it all in set_tdm_slot() right now, so that could be buggy. the alsa driver should properly handle the mixer values | 12:28 |
| stan | it seems recent kernel/pvr drivers on droid4 lost the temporal dithering in 16bpp mode. now obvious 16bpp color banding is apparent | 14:43 |
| Wizzup | We will not be using or supporting 16 bit going forward as I understand, so probably not a huge loss | 14:44 |
| Wizzup | most applications cannot deal wiht 16 bit well at all, so that won't work well for us anyway | 14:45 |
| parazyd | uvos: I think the themes should be fine now in devel | 14:46 |
| stan | i'm curious to know which applications you refer to | 14:48 |
| stan | gl4es seems borken in 16bpp. glmark2 isn't working in 16bpp | 14:49 |
| stan | but most applications shouldn't care | 14:50 |
| Wizzup | we've had the discusson many times, and we decided not to that, it's probably in the irc logs somewher | 14:51 |
| uvos | lots of modern stuff just renders 24bit surfaces and then converts to 16bit, eg firefox anything gtk3 anything qt5 in wayland mode | 14:52 |
| uvos | probubly etc | 14:53 |
| Wizzup | uvos: I had salutem installed now, rebooted | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | and it shows upon boot | 14:54 |
| uvos | right | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | you told me to reboot twice | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | not sure why | 14:54 |
| uvos | because now it should never agian untill you change the html file | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | also, the "Remove it withj" part for zram lacks at least a semicolon, or a separate line per command | 14:54 |
| Wizzup | ok | 14:54 |
| uvos | the intention is that the html fille will have a changelog | 14:55 |
| uvos | and we update it | 14:55 |
| Wizzup | I think we might also want a big(er) header for the html page that matches the window title | 14:55 |
| uvos | and then salutem automaticly shows again next boot | 14:55 |
| Wizzup | right | 14:55 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sure the html file needs love | 14:55 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Yeah supposedly it can also do a subset of CSS | 14:55 |
| Wizzup | is there a way to show up manually, clicking some icon? | 14:55 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: So a nice design should be in place :) | 14:55 |
| Wizzup | uvos: check | 14:55 |
| uvos | Wizzup: i just took the wiki geting started page | 14:56 |
| uvos | Wizzup: no | 14:56 |
| uvos | Wizzup: you could add a desktop file for it | 14:56 |
| uvos | Wizzup: and start salutem without the once flag | 14:56 |
| uvos | so you should be able to start salutem with | 14:58 |
| uvos | salutem -t /usr/share/salutem.html | 14:58 |
| Wizzup | btw, wifi auto connected for me just now | 14:59 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ok, think it makes sense to have an icon for it? | 14:59 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sure why not | 14:59 |
| uvos | the user might want to refer to it again | 15:00 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: what do you mean, 'be in place'? | 15:00 |
| parazyd | Somebody should write it | 15:00 |
| parazyd | I can, but not now | 15:00 |
| Wizzup | ok | 15:01 |
| uvos | tmlind: so simply switching the earpice controll in alsa mixer nukes CPCAP_REG_RXOA/0x081c to 0x0 | 15:06 |
| uvos | tmlind: in this case https://github.com/tmlind/linux/blob/e5d2a3ec37ab1da4ca07e474ae6b5a0644c29507/sound/soc/codecs/cpcap.c#L1456 and cpcap_voice_call dosent even run | 15:06 |
| uvos | so its not that | 15:06 |
| uvos | https://github.com/tmlind/linux/blob/e5d2a3ec37ab1da4ca07e474ae6b5a0644c29507/sound/soc/codecs/cpcap.c#L409 runs but it dosent set CPCAP_REG_RXOA | 15:07 |
| uvos | it sets CPCAP_REG_RXCOA CPCAP_REG_RXSDOA CPCAP_REG_RXEPOA correctly as you would expect in this case | 15:07 |
| uvos | tmlind: i also set CPCAP_REG_RXCOA CPCAP_REG_RXSDOA and CPCAP_REG_RXEPOA by hand | 15:07 |
| uvos | this dident change CPCAP_REG_RXOA so its not cpcap mcu chaning it behind out back | 15:08 |
| uvos | so the problem is snd_soc_dapm_route | 15:08 |
| uvos | https://github.com/tmlind/linux/blob/e5d2a3ec37ab1da4ca07e474ae6b5a0644c29507/sound/soc/codecs/cpcap.c#L819 | 15:09 |
| uvos | snd_soc_dapm_route together with SND_SOC_DAPM_* is supposed to power off Earpiece PGA for power saving | 15:09 |
| uvos | and apearntly it thinks its not needed with Voice PGA | 15:09 |
| uvos | but im having a hard time reading the way this stuff is configured | 15:10 |
| uvos | but the bug is in there | 15:10 |
| uvos | anyhow with any setting in the Earpice alsamixer controll except Hifi this pice gets turned off: | 15:11 |
| uvos | https://github.com/tmlind/linux/blob/e5d2a3ec37ab1da4ca07e474ae6b5a0644c29507/sound/soc/codecs/cpcap.c#L784 | 15:11 |
| uvos | so no output | 15:11 |
| uvos | for some reason, any invalid CPCAP_REG_RXOA value will enable the Speakerphone output amp so thats why the speakerphone happens to work | 15:19 |
| lel | parazyd created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste/libtvout-ctl | 15:50 |
| lel | parazyd closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/57 (Look into gps (gpsd) support) | 15:59 |
| lel | parazyd closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/79 (Provide a virtual keyboard for the console) | 16:00 |
| lel | parazyd assigned an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/138 (osso-connectivity-ui: reverse engineer .mo files and add eap pap translation) | 16:01 |
| lel | parazyd assigned an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/211 (Provide a way to flash leste (or u-boot) directly) | 16:03 |
| lel | parazyd opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/550 (Pinephone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:07 |
| lel | parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/550 (Pinephone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:07 |
| lel | parazyd assigned an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/550 (Pinephone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:07 |
| lel | parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/550 (Pinephone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:07 |
| lel | parazyd closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/350 (Pinephone: 20200323 image written to eMMC failing to boot, stuck on "random: crng init done") | 16:08 |
| lel | parazyd closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/56 (Import maemo-tvout-control) | 16:09 |
| Danct12 | parazyd, regarding 550, that's unnecessary these days | 16:15 |
| parazyd | What do you mean? | 16:15 |
| parazyd | At the very least we need to change fstab | 16:16 |
| Danct12 | yeah fstab is the only thing that needs to be changed | 16:16 |
| uvos | maybe add the same bug for mapphones too | 16:18 |
| uvos | its tivial to install leste to emmc there | 16:18 |
| uvos | just fstab and root= in boot.cfg needs to be changed | 16:18 |
| uvos | if we change from the 2 partition layout of / and /boot and change root= to a partition lable you could even just flash the leste .img with fastboot so no sdcard is required | 16:20 |
| uvos | or flash the same image to sdcard | 16:20 |
| lel | parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/551 (Mapphone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:20 |
| lel | parazyd opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/551 (Mapphone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:20 |
| lel | parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/551 (Mapphone: Provide some way of installing to emmc) | 16:20 |
| parazyd | I don't want to ditch the 2 partition layout | 16:22 |
| parazyd | It'll make FDE harder | 16:22 |
| Danct12 | i should also mention that there's https://github.com/dreemurrs-embedded/Jumpdrive | 16:23 |
| Danct12 | you flash this image to the sd card, boot the phone and the emmc becomes a mass storage device over usb | 16:25 |
| parazyd | Cool | 16:27 |
| bencoh | oh, neat | 16:28 |
| stan | anyone still getting the occasional reboot on Droid4? i was stable there a couple of weeks. | 19:35 |
| stan | i don't need the GPS or GSM radio if that's a source of it | 19:36 |
| uvos | 5.11 is stable, other than that pvr sometimes crahses (maybe causing a dsme reboot due to xorg dieing) | 19:49 |
| stan | has anyone tried hacking a back cover to supply +5 to the inductive charge interface pins? | 19:53 |
| stan | one could make a homemade slide-on extended battery | 19:54 |
| sicelo | at least some did it for N900 ... should be much easier on the droid4, naturally | 19:54 |
| uvos | the cpcap driver dosent support charging via those pins atm | 19:55 |
| uvos | but you could just wire some random huge battery to the screw terminals | 19:55 |
| uvos | that would work fine | 19:55 |
| uvos | (and is indeed what i do with a 2200mAh battery) | 19:55 |
| stan | they are spring-laden pogo pins, so all that's needed is a rounded contact in the right spot | 19:55 |
| uvos | and kernel support | 19:56 |
| stan | interesting | 19:56 |
| stan | the motorola battery terminal has what looks like 4 contacts, two in the middle and two at the torx terminals, yes? | 19:58 |
| uvos | yes | 19:59 |
| uvos | the 2 contacts in the center dont matter | 19:59 |
| stan | do you have a picture of your battery construction? | 19:59 |
| uvos | no | 20:00 |
| uvos | but this http://uvos.xyz/maserati/IMG_20201015_185706.jpg | 20:00 |
| uvos | is a picture of the old battery i had | 20:00 |
| uvos | it dident work so well because it had to high ir | 20:00 |
| uvos | i just changed the cell after that | 20:00 |
| uvos | the setup is the same | 20:00 |
| uvos | the new cell is a nexus 5 one | 20:00 |
| stan | your connector is interesting. did you etch it yourself? | 20:01 |
| uvos | its cnc machined | 20:01 |
| stan | the torx bolts carry the current down through the board to the droid4? | 20:02 |
| uvos | http://uvos.xyz/maserati/maseraiBatteryAdapter.tar.xz | 20:02 |
| uvos | you can take that to any pcb shop | 20:02 |
| stan | no conductive layer needs to be on the bottom? | 20:02 |
| uvos | and have it made | 20:02 |
| uvos | yes the torx carry the current | 20:03 |
| stan | that's just great | 20:03 |
| stan | just great. just get the right voltage to them and go | 20:04 |
| stan | -- what dc powered devices should be :) | 20:04 |
| buZz | who tried to overclock microSD cards in here? | 20:08 |
| uvos | me | 20:08 |
| buZz | uvos: did you write up anything about it? | 20:09 |
| parazyd | I managed too | 20:09 |
| uvos | no | 20:09 |
| parazyd | There was a short kernel patch | 20:09 |
| mtnman | helo | 20:09 |
| uvos | but its really simple | 20:09 |
| parazyd | mtnman: Hi | 20:09 |
| buZz | any link to that patch? | 20:09 |
| parazyd | uhh not sure | 20:09 |
| mtnman | anyone here running maemo-leste on pinephone? | 20:09 |
| buZz | :) | 20:09 |
| uvos | search irc.txt | 20:10 |
| parazyd | But it was just some frequency change | 20:10 |
| stan | i think it disables internal emmc from working | 20:10 |
| uvos | yes | 20:10 |
| uvos | the patch was just forced every mmc device to 100mhz | 20:10 |
| parazyd | mtnman: I got a new one recently and I started fixing up bugs | 20:10 |
| uvos | the internal mmc dosent like that | 20:10 |
| mtnman | parazyd got a new PP? | 20:10 |
| parazyd | mtnman: Yeah because my old one died | 20:11 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Just managed to boot with openrc-init instead of sysv | 20:11 |
| mtnman | ok i have one i bought last summer its running pmos. i want to put a new os on it and am considering maemo-leste. i liked maemo pretty well on my n900 | 20:12 |
| mtnman | parazyd: how does maemo-leste run on PP at this time? | 20:13 |
| parazyd | It's decent. In landscape there are some grapics bugs, portrait seems good. | 20:13 |
| parazyd | One thing you'll feel missing is a hw keyboard :0 | 20:13 |
| parazyd | :) | 20:13 |
| mtnman | i have a bt keyboard | 20:13 |
| mtnman | i need a bt mouse though | 20:14 |
| parazyd | Maemo is made for hw keyboards really, but it's still usable on touchscreen-only devices | 20:14 |
| uvos | mtnman: regular stuff alls applies | 20:14 |
| uvos | we dont have a phone dialer etc | 20:14 |
| uvos | *also | 20:14 |
| mtnman | phone dialer is a big hole to fill | 20:14 |
| uvos | right | 20:14 |
| mtnman | i would actually enjoy being able to make phone calls with it | 20:15 |
| parazyd | They work through the command line | 20:15 |
| parazyd | And recently there is sphone which could serve as a usable dialer | 20:16 |
| uvos | note: dosent work atm | 20:16 |
| mtnman | uvos what doesn't work atm? | 20:16 |
| uvos | sphone | 20:16 |
| mtnman | ah | 20:16 |
| uvos | (our dialer) | 20:16 |
| mtnman | so its command line only...? using modemmanager? | 20:17 |
| uvos | ofono | 20:17 |
| mtnman | ok | 20:17 |
| mtnman | well i have enjoyed running devuan on beagleboneblack and i enjoyed using maemo on n900 so maybe i wil give leste a shot on the pinephone | 20:19 |
| parazyd | :) | 20:19 |
| mtnman | are there bootable images or do i need to do an install? | 20:19 |
| parazyd | Yeah on maedevu.maemo.org/images | 20:20 |
| mtnman | parazyd: thanks for the link | 20:21 |
| mtnman | whats the "dont-be-evil" version? free software only? | 20:22 |
| parazyd | No, that was one of the devkits | 20:22 |
| uvos | dont-be-evil is a prototype pp | 20:22 |
| mtnman | so don't use that one? | 20:22 |
| parazyd | No | 20:23 |
| uvos | not unless you have a prototype pp | 20:23 |
| mtnman | i have 3 gb version | 20:23 |
| parazyd | Should work | 20:23 |
| mtnman | so pinephone directory i presume | 20:23 |
| parazyd | Yes | 20:23 |
| mtnman | ok great. are there some instructions around for loading it onto sd card? i presume similar process to BBB | 20:24 |
| mtnman | and should i use the latest image dated yesterday? | 20:25 |
| parazyd | https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/README.txt | 20:25 |
| parazyd | Yeah you can try the latest one | 20:26 |
| mtnman | any suggestion where to look for instructions on loading to sd? | 20:26 |
| parazyd | https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/README.txt | 20:27 |
| mtnman | parazyd: thanks again | 20:27 |
| parazyd | yw | 20:28 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: ah, nice @ openrc-init | 20:29 |
| mtnman | parazyd: any recommendation on partition size? i have a big card but would like to have the option of loading another os. | 20:30 |
| parazyd | mtnman: Whatever you prefer, just don't make it smaller than the image | 20:31 |
| mtnman | ok. how does it work for voice? pmos has been pretty spotty for voice calls | 20:32 |
| parazyd | You'll have to try it out :p | 20:33 |
| parazyd | There's ofono scripts | 20:33 |
| parazyd | You install them with apt | 20:33 |
| Wizzup | I also brought a pinephone with me, but I usually use the droid4 more | 20:33 |
| lel | clort81 closed an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/510 (Droid4: Add updated hw keyboard map to leste image.) | 20:36 |
| mtnman | anyone know where i can get a new usb charging socket installed on a disabled n900? | 20:37 |
| mtnman | i guess thats ot here | 20:38 |
| stan | talk.maemo.org has a thread about those repairs | 20:39 |
| parazyd | There's stuff on the Maemo forums for DIY I'm sure | 20:39 |
| Wizzup | uvos: do you think we should have device specific salutem pages? | 20:39 |
| uvos | Wizzup: maybe | 20:39 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: it's not really off topic, but it's not easy to do | 20:39 |
| uvos | Wizzup: ofc just putting the html file into leste-config is no issue | 20:39 |
| Wizzup | uvos: like a page with the d4 keyboard keymap or something | 20:39 |
| Wizzup | right | 20:39 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sure sounds reasonable | 20:40 |
| uvos | Wizzup: i wont be doing the html pages | 20:40 |
| uvos | Wizzup: as you know that would result in lots of spelling errors :P | 20:40 |
| mtnman | wizzup: i'd been hoping there might be some spare boards floating around the neo900 project but it seems do be dead | 20:41 |
| stan | there are many spare boards with defective USB for you to practice soldering on | 20:41 |
| uvos | hehe | 20:41 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: depending on your level of maemo leste involvement I could try to send you a device | 20:41 |
| mtnman | i have a device i'd like to repair. | 20:42 |
| mtnman | wizzup: thanks for the offer. i would be involved basically as a tester | 20:43 |
| uvos | Wizzup: since salutem just takes a -t parameter for the html file | 20:43 |
| uvos | Wizzup: i think we should keep the main html file commen | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | I will have to check at home what the state of my n900's are, but I can send a droid4 or bionic for sure | 20:43 |
| uvos | and then have a .dekstop link we ship with device specific help | 20:43 |
| Wizzup | uvos: sure, parazyd and I were thinking of making some pdf/html doc version as well based on restructured text, we could use something like that | 20:44 |
| uvos | sure | 20:44 |
| mtnman | would really like to repair the socket or switch out the board | 20:44 |
| uvos | just for mainitinaince ease | 20:44 |
| uvos | the device specific file would likely never change | 20:44 |
| Wizzup | uvos: oh yeah it's here, ofc unfinished https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-manual | 20:44 |
| uvos | while the page salutem shows on startup would | 20:44 |
| uvos | Wizzup: right great :) | 20:45 |
| uvos | Wizzup: i wont be contributing any documentation | 20:45 |
| sicelo | mtnman: you can repair it yourself, as long as you're careful, and maybe watch a YT video or two on SMD soldering. I did it on mine back in 2015/16, with zero prior experience, and a regular 30W soldering iron | 20:45 |
| sicelo | fixing the USB might be better than swapping the mobo - as replacement mobo could have other issues, esp. the dreaded dead modem issue | 20:46 |
| Wizzup | uvos: yeah, it might make sense to just have salutem work with this content before we push it out | 20:46 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sure | 20:47 |
| uvos | Wizzup: unless salutem needs code changes, which i would like to do myself then, just go for it :) | 20:47 |
| Wizzup | ok, I have no idea how navigation inside it would work :p | 20:48 |
| Wizzup | maybe a larger manual as pdf/epub should be separate from the help/changelog | 20:49 |
| parazyd | fwiw https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/richtext-html-subset.html | 20:49 |
| uvos | it would not | 20:49 |
| uvos | i was thinking just 2 pages | 20:49 |
| uvos | reached by 2 .dekstop files | 20:49 |
| uvos | one with changelog | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | uvos: well our leste manual will likely be large | 20:49 |
| uvos | and another device manual | 20:49 |
| uvos | ok | 20:49 |
| uvos | well then you need a real html engine | 20:49 |
| Wizzup | or we can use our pdf viewer | 20:49 |
| uvos | that doesent work btw | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | the pdf viewer doesn't work for you? | 20:50 |
| uvos | i sefaults on 100% of pdf files i tryed it with | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | really? | 20:50 |
| uvos | yes | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | care to share some? | 20:50 |
| uvos | uh | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | I've used it on various PDFs and it worked fine for me | 20:50 |
| Wizzup | We need to upgrade the Xpdf core, but it shouldn't be that old/crashy | 20:50 |
| sicelo | btw, Fremantle comes with html docs in MyDocs, iirc. I might have deleted mine | 20:50 |
| uvos | Wizzup: it segfaulted on the first one i tryed | 20:53 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sec ill upload it | 20:53 |
| uvos | http://uvos.xyz/HP1741AServiceManual.pdf | 20:54 |
| uvos | i tryed a few more | 20:54 |
| uvos | it segfaulted on all but one | 20:54 |
| uvos | it also segfaults if you open a file | 20:57 |
| uvos | and then open another | 20:57 |
| uvos | even if the other file is a copy of the first | 20:57 |
| uvos | (that otherwise works) | 20:57 |
| uvos | so yeah | 20:57 |
| uvos | pdfreader might as well not exist as far as reliability goes | 20:57 |
| uvos | we should maybe preload something else as an example app :P | 20:58 |
| Wizzup | uvos: that's a 404 for me | 21:02 |
| Wizzup | uvos: It never crashed on me so I'm surprised | 21:02 |
| uvos | http://uvos.xyz/maserati/HP1741AServiceManual.pdf | 21:03 |
| parazyd | uvos: It opens here | 21:08 |
| parazyd | Opening again does crash | 21:08 |
| stan | mupdf handles that one fine | 21:11 |
| stan | convenient finger scrolling as well | 21:11 |
| stan | not that i want to discourage our maemoized-developments | 21:12 |
| Wizzup | try to exit fullscreen mupdf without keyboard | 21:13 |
| stan | yep | 21:14 |
| Wizzup | uvos: it opens just fine for me | 21:15 |
| Wizzup | (vm) | 21:15 |
| stan | are you talking about the "pdf reader" installed with the image? | 21:17 |
| uvos | on another try it did open for me | 21:17 |
| uvos | but then it crahsed when i tried scrolling around a bit | 21:17 |
| stan | or Dorian? | 21:18 |
| uvos | now it crashed on first open again | 21:18 |
| uvos | Wizzup: smells memory corruption | 21:19 |
| Wizzup | uvos: we could attach gdb and see | 21:20 |
| uvos | try with valgrind on vm | 21:20 |
| uvos | anyhow ttyl | 21:21 |
| stan | it should be easy to configure some 'virtual keyboard' daemon to trigger selected keystrokes with the offscreen area of the touchscreen | 21:38 |
| freemangordon | Hi! | 21:53 |
| stan | hello | 21:55 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: hi | 21:59 |
| mtnman | successfully running maemo-leste on PP | 22:00 |
| mtnman | thanks to all | 22:01 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: please let us know what works / doesn't work for you | 22:02 |
| mtnman | ok first thing: i don't see a sim card indicator or setting anywhere | 22:02 |
| Wizzup | ok, yeah, give me a few minutes, I'll answer | 22:03 |
| mtnman | ok | 22:06 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: hi | 22:15 |
| mtnman | hi | 22:15 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: so there are packages to add the cellular applets and such, but they are quite alpha | 22:15 |
| mtnman | okay... | 22:15 |
| Wizzup | I need to see if we already have a meta package for it (I think so?), and if you install those, you should see the network status and/or sim status | 22:15 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: do you recall if we already have the cellular meta? | 22:15 |
| mtnman | that would be great | 22:15 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Yes in devel only | 22:16 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: hildon-connectivity-cellular then? or? | 22:16 |
| parazyd | -mobile | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | s/cellular/mobile/ ? | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: to clarify, our aim to be support as much as fremantle does, and more, but we have to re-write a lot, so it's not "finished" | 22:17 |
| mtnman | i get that | 22:17 |
| Wizzup | ok | 22:17 |
| mtnman | does this mean editing /etc/apt/sources.list to get the devel stuff | 22:18 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: so presumably if you add the 'devel' repo to sources.list, and apt update, and then install hildon-connectivity-mobile, you should get those packages | 22:18 |
| mtnman | ok sounds fairly straightforward | 22:19 |
| Wizzup | what works for me is the status applet and the signal strength and technology, and I think on boot it should ask you for pin with gui if you have one set | 22:19 |
| Wizzup | it should also automatically provision a data network if all goes well | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | actually connecting to it will require a few attempts, which is a known problem | 22:20 |
| Wizzup | the 'phone' part of the control panel *might* open, but it's not useful at this point | 22:20 |
| mtnman | thus necessitating dialing from command line | 22:21 |
| Wizzup | mtnman: well, this was about the control panel phone applet, like to change pin/puk, or set up call forwarding and such | 22:22 |
| Wizzup | There is no GUI dialer yet, indeed, but we found sphone the other day which seems like it might suit us quite well | 22:23 |
| mtnman | is there a way to boot a pinephone from internal storage rather than sdcard without removing the card? | 22:59 |
| parazyd | Probably, if you edit boot.scr | 23:09 |
| stan | do any other target-phones for maemo-leste have offscreen touchscreen 'buttons' that can be mapped to keys? is there a "right way" to set that up? | 23:29 |
| stan | i was thinking maybe pageup, pagedown and escape might be useful | 23:29 |
| stan | woah, they are already? | 23:33 |
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