libera/#maemo-leste/ Thursday, 2021-07-01

bencohhmm, I didn't think fremantle's pidgin was patched so much for hildon01:14
bencoh44 files changed, 1913 insertions(+), 175 deletions(-) :(01:14
siceloi see i was ping - eswatini is experiencing extreme civil unrest this week (by our standards, i can say we're at war, since we're not used to this) .. anyway, so internet is off most of the time, by govt. order afaict.09:18
siceloDanct12: you'll have serious issues running Maemo Leste on 5.11. otherwise, it does boot. i don't remember if by 5.11 the mmc ordering was already done. look for a patch by tmlind with subject " ARM: dts: Fix swapped mmc order for omap3"09:20
Danct12thanks for heads up, but i didn't meant to boot maemo leste with 5.1109:21
siceloautoconnect works for me too on droid 4  :)09:21
siceloi tested up to 5.12-rc7 on N900, but yes, as mentioned by others, someone already tested 5.13, and got it to boot09:28
siceloi'm surprised you say LEDs are working for you though - in my experience, from 5.9 onwards, LEDs aren't working09:29
Danct12yeep, the keyboard leds turns on but nothing on the screen :)09:30
sicelomay also want to have CONFIG_CMDLINE="root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootwait console=tty0 console=ttyS2,115200"09:32
sicelommm, i think i see ... your leds are turned on by bootloader. i suppose if you were able to get into linux proper, they wouldn't work by then :)09:36
Danct12sicelo, the u-boot doesnt turn on the leds tho (2013)09:43
Danct12it turns on when the kernel boots09:44
Danct12i tried 5.7, it works and the keyboard leds doesnt turn on by default09:44
sicelokernel doesn't automatically turn leds on though ... if they're turning on, something else is causing it. anyway, any luck with 5.13 yet?09:47
Wizzupsicelo: yikes sorry to hear, take care10:51
Wizzupstay safe10:51
Wizzupfreemangordon: where do you think provider settings should go? tabs in the advanced network settings?14:03
uvossicelo: oh no, please do as Wizzup says.14:34
uvosto anyone who had the occasional problem where the d4 dident register touches untill you turnd the display off and back on again.14:35
freemangordonWizzup: maybe, but we shall decide how connection dialog should look like first14:36
Wizzuphuh?14:36
uvosthat may not just be the hw's fault (altho it dose happen because of that too) i just fixed a bug in touchscreen-buttons that might cause this in rare cases14:36
Wizzupuvos: ah, check14:36
uvosthe bug being that if you press a touchscreen button14:36
Wizzupfreemangordon: as I understand it, this is already figured out14:36
freemangordonWizzup: by multiplying the connections?14:37
Wizzupfreemangordon: no, this is solved14:37
freemangordonsorry, don;t get it14:37
freemangordonhow is it solved?14:37
uvosand then generate so many events at the same time (within one syn_report) that ts-buttons event que is overrun ts buttons can end up filtering away every touch untill you press and relese the same button again14:37
Wizzupfreemangordon: so there is per IAP config like this14:37
Wizzup+If you set the specific service for an IAP, the IAP result will not show up in14:38
Wizzup+the scan dialog without the service, only with the service. E.g.::14:38
Wizzup+14:38
Wizzup+    gconftool /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DUMMY/service_type -s -t string DUMMY14:38
Wizzup+    gconftool /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/DUMMY/service_id -s -t string14:38
Wizzup+    dummy-provider:14:38
Wizzupif you do that, then the entries are merged14:38
freemangordonah, so you see only srv provider entry14:38
Wizzupso it looks to me that no provider module should say it supports all networks (although it can), but rather it should only say it supports the ones with gconf entries set to itself14:38
Wizzupyes14:38
WizzupI was just 'matching' all networks for the purpose of testing14:39
freemangordonah, ok14:39
WizzupI mean I only learned this yesterday14:39
Wizzup:)14:39
freemangordon:D14:39
freemangordonok, I think I got it14:39
freemangordonyou may have several connections for one APN, lets say14:40
freemangordonthen you may want to configure only one of them to connect to vpn (for example)14:40
freemangordonmay we have more than one srv provider per IAP?14:41
freemangordon*can we14:41
WizzupI don't think the gconf schema allows for that at the moment14:41
freemangordonstring list should be allowed14:41
Wizzuphmm14:41
Wizzupit's type string, not type string-list14:41
WizzupI belive14:41
Wizzuplet me find schema..14:41
freemangordonok, if API supports that, we shall extend the schema14:42
Wizzupwhat package owns iap gconf schema actually14:42
freemangordon-settings?14:42
Wizzupfreemangordon: I don't know if it does, does it?14:42
freemangordonno idea, we'll have to check14:42
Wizzupmy bet is it doesn't14:42
Wizzupmaybe:14:43
Wizzup$ grep -r '"service_type"' connui-*14:43
freemangordonbut on your initial question - lemme check what it looks like now14:43
Wizzupok14:44
WizzupI am pretty sure it allows for only one in /system/osso/connectivity/IAP/[iapnamehere]/service_type14:44
Wizzupwhich I think makes sense14:44
Wizzupyou just make another IAP if you want other settings14:44
Wizzupthe same is true for proxy settings and usch14:44
Wizzups/usch/such/14:44
Wizzupbrb14:46
freemangordonWizzup: but what if I want 2 VPNs connected at the same time?14:46
freemangordonI think we shall have 'Services' tab in advanced settings, which lists all the installed service providers, with checkboxes, so one can select multiple of them. However, I don;t think this is possible with the current framework (like, what icon will be displayed in connections dialog?)14:51
freemangordonso, maybe a simple list box is a better solution14:51
freemangordonhmm, some "multiple providers" icon seems like a solution14:52
Wizzupfreemangordon: my thought was to have a providers tab, where you can select which one you want14:53
Wizzupand perhaps also which 'config' within the provider you want14:53
Wizzupand then the providers themselves would be configged from a separate cpa14:53
freemangordonWizzup: this is what I said, though I called it "Services" instead of "Providers"14:53
Wizzupyeah, ok, so we agree14:54
WizzupI suggested the same to parazyd ~25 mins ago in pm14:54
Wizzupwhat do you mean with multiple providers icon14:54
freemangordonwith the only difference that I would allow multiple providers to be selected if FW allows it14:54
WizzupFW?14:54
freemangordonframework14:54
WizzupI am pretty sure it doesn't14:55
Wizzupbut if it does, sure14:55
freemangordonI mean - if we have more than one selected provider, we don't know which icon to show14:55
Wizzupand then the order of the list would suggest which one goes first14:55
WizzupI think it'd be a radio group, where you can select only one ;)14:55
Wizzup(radio button group)14:55
freemangordonI'd say listbox, but this is a detail14:55
Wizzupterminology :)14:56
freemangordonalso, I think we already have listbox as a scene widget14:56
freemangordonbut anyway, if one cannot connect to more than one VPN, then we shall fix that14:57
freemangordonlooks like a huge gap to me14:58
freemangordonI volunteer to implement it :)14:58
Wizzupfreemangordon: hmm, I am not sure I fully understand14:59
Wizzupa single provider could easily do multiple vpns15:00
Wizzupif the vpn config allows for it15:00
Wizzupalthough I am not sure if all VPNs can really work as providers, I haven't given that too much thought15:00
Wizzupfreemangordon: all I am saying is that configuring tor and say openvpn would not work since they are different providers15:00
Wizzupit's also something we can definitely defer until later imho15:01
Wizzupin any case:15:01
Wizzup  val = iap_settings_get_gconf_value(iap, "service_type");15:01
Wizzup  if (val)15:01
Wizzup  {15:01
Wizzup    gchar *service_type = g_strdup(gconf_value_get_string(val));15:01
freemangordonWizzup: VPN == provider15:02
Wizzupfreemangordon: so you want to nest say wireguard and openvpn?15:02
freemangordonnot nest15:02
freemangordonbut rather have several vpn connections running over the same wifi connection15:02
Wizzupalso, independent of IAP specific config, we will also have system-wide stuff15:03
freemangordonlike openconnect and fortinet15:04
Wizzupe.g. libicd-network-tor, where if the gconf system-wide option is set, it would work through plugin, not provider15:04
Wizzupregardless of the IAP15:04
freemangordonbut this is still not I am talking about:15:04
freemangordonfor example, when I am home I want to be connected to my office VPN and a customer VPN15:05
freemangordonwhile when I am in the office, I don;t want office VPN connected15:05
freemangordondo you get the usecase?15:05
Wizzupaha, so neither take over your connection, it's just supplement? I'm used to vpn usually taking over my connection15:05
freemangordonexactly15:05
freemangordonand this better fits the definition of 'service provider' than VPN that takes over the connection15:06
Wizzupwell, not the icd2 one :p15:07
freemangordonwell, we'll have to allow that, someday15:07
Wizzupafaict the only service provider even mentioned by nokia was one that autoaccepts captive portals for public wifi15:07
Wizzupalso our providers indeed do not necessarily need to take over the connection15:07
freemangordonmhm15:07
freemangordontor is rather an extreme case15:08
Wizzupbut I think if it's per IAP it usually made more sense, otherwise you can just have tor on all the time, where it doesn't take over15:08
Wizzupmaybe, tor often is used without 'take over' features15:08
Wizzupok, brb again15:08
Wizzupfreemangordon: I suppose we could look into that if it is not currently supported, I guess, now I get the multiple icons thing15:23
Wizzupbut I think we should really view that as 'for later', and just get the main things working, agreed?15:24
freemangordonWizzup: ok15:55
meldriangot maemo leste running via virtualbox, application manager says there's no connection (did the ifconfig thingy, there's one) and i can't install stuff. Any chances ?22:32
stani suggest you reade generic virtualbox instructions for networking, masquerading and forwarding internal interfaces22:34
stanhave you gotten networking to outside running with another OS, such as debian/devuan?22:34
stani haven't done it recently, but i did recently get forwarding working from my eth1 to eth022:35
parazydYou need libicd-network-dummy22:45
parazydmeldrian: ^22:45
parazydWhen you install it with apt, you'll see some instructions22:46
uvosham checks with icd to see if its connected instead of just trying to connect?22:48
uvosthats a bit silly no?22:48
meldriangreat parazyd, looks good! "dummy network" shows up and were able to install something now. thanks a lot22:55
WizzupPali: freemangordon: wrt u-boot, sounds like we need to port to dts, no?23:07
parazyduvos: No, it's supposed to open the connection dialog23:09
uvosok that sounds fine23:13
uvosit allows you to try and install an app even if icd dosent have any connections right?23:14
Wizzupyes23:14
Wizzupiiuc23:14

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