libera/#maemo-leste/ Tuesday, 2021-07-13

rafael2khi all09:48
stanohi rafael2k09:49
rafael2kthe latest kernel upgrade for pinephone was a mixed bag for X behavior... the behavior with accelerated OpenGL improved, still a bit strange, but improved09:50
rafael2kbut the NoAccel, which was the stable setup for me... got a bit unstable, with X crashing sometimes09:50
stanois anyone lending out pinephones to test apps on09:50
rafael2ksomething to ask, definitelly09:52
stanowould you be interested in testing some sdl apps?09:53
rafael2kI can test, sure09:55
stanothere's a backlog of stuff i have here that doesn't need much to get in repo, but testing on other devices is important09:56
rafael2kcool09:58
rafael2kpoint me which apps09:58
stanoyou can compile them?09:59
stanothe debian build tools and "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -uc -us" should work to create a deb10:00
rafael2kyes, I can compile with dpkg-buildpackage10:01
stanothen i'll try to get picodrive ready. ETA tomorrow10:03
Wizzupmorn10:05
Wizzuprafael2k: opengl improved, that's good, is the flickering gone?10:06
Wizzupcould also try to switch from GL and GL|ES and see which one is better10:06
parazydrafael2k: Is this the updates I made yesterday in -devel?10:11
parazydKernel is 5.14 and mesa is 21.2.010:22
parazydI also updated crust and uboot which are complementary to this kernel10:22
Wizzupupgrading my pp to see10:26
parazyd<Wizzup> could also try to switch from GL and GL|ES and see which one is better10:57
parazydDo you mean with the hildon-desktop.env file we have in etc?10:57
Wizzupyes11:00
Wizzuprafael2k: mostly feels the same to me (gl)11:13
Wizzupmy pp doesn't rotate again it seems11:13
stanothere's just something about the 'feel' of the n900 that's very satisfying11:40
stanohardware wise.  the animations on fremantle are jerky compared to leste on droid4 though11:41
bencohstano: I think that feeling comes from the keyboard, and maybe the quality of the lcd display11:42
Wizzupuvos: the 11 tablets arrived11:42
stanofor me it's the case material and slider mechanism11:43
bencohah11:43
Wizzupuvos: I could try to check some today and maybe send one your way11:43
uvos__stano: bencoh: i think its the terrible case quality/ slider design on the d4 particularly the unsuported display back plate that inevitably bends and causes the display to not sit flush with the body when closed11:48
uvos__the n900 or something like the d1 is mutch better better11:48
uvos__Wizzup: allready? sweet11:48
uvos__Wizzup: monitor-sensor on pp?11:49
stanooh i have an old pop3 email password on this n900 but it's all asterisks11:53
Wizzupuvos__: will debug later @ pp11:56
Wizzupuvos__: yeah already, I'm leaving home tomorrow though, so need to act soon on posting if useful11:57
Wizzups/posting/sending/11:57
stanowill n900 and droid4 continue to work with german phone network? i heard something about 3g being deprecated12:04
inetdragonRegarding: "<Wizzup> could also try to switch from GL and GL|ES and see which one is better", as far as I know, GLX doesn't work on N900.12:07
stanothe phone in question was pine6412:07
uvos__stano: some operators shut down umts on the 1st of this moth, the last 3g network wil be gone on the 1 jan 2022 in ger12:11
stanobut gsm continues?  or edge whatever it's called?12:13
uvos__stano: the d4 can sill use gsm after that for phone calls but effectively mobile internet is gohne, as several operators depreciated EDGE too12:13
stanook12:13
uvos__so you get GPRS12:13
uvos__with dialup modem speed12:13
uvos__(not usefull for anything except maybe ip messaging)12:13
stanopop3 email perhaps12:13
uvos__sure12:13
uvos__email is just old ip messaging :)12:14
uvos__Wizzup: obv if you can send before then that would be nice, but there is no rush12:15
uvos__and im pretty swamped undtill mid aug anyhow12:16
Wizzupcheck12:24
uvos__stano: lcm2.0 probubly could do lte band 28 that is used by voafone in germany, but dont hold your breath of anyone ever get it going sw wise as its locked and the sw is proriatary12:25
uvos__also would be illegal and the pentalies for operating sutch a device are stiff12:26
inkyhey folks12:57
inkyso i confirm, on my pinephone too, with latest image12:58
uvos__hi12:58
inkyno battery indicator12:58
uvos__no verb12:58
inkyi got it yesterday and flushed leshe to sdcard12:58
inkywill also try to flush to emmc12:58
uvos__what do you meen flush12:58
uvos__what device12:58
uvos__*mean12:59
inkylooks very cool on a big screen12:59
inkypinephone12:59
uvos__ah flashed i guess12:59
inkyflush or flash? i mix em up always. dd, i mean dd12:59
uvos__inky: ok12:59
uvos__hmm12:59
inkyi reported that when tried memo leste on friends' device13:00
inkynow i got mine and the same issue13:00
uvos__dose upower show the battery13:00
uvos__?13:00
uvos__is the battery in /sys/class/power_supply/*13:00
inkyupower? is that console utility?13:00
inkylet me check13:00
inkyupower shows no output13:02
inkywillzcheck /sys/class13:02
uvos__it might not be upower excatly that might be the deamon not sure (can check atm)13:02
uvos__upower -d13:03
uvos__i think13:03
inkysys class contains axp20x-battery13:04
inkyprobably a dir13:04
uvos__thats fine13:04
uvos__upower -d?13:04
inkymmm, a lot of output13:05
inkylet me try to wgetpaste it13:05
inkyit says discharging13:05
inkybattery present13:05
uvos__sounds fine13:05
inkypercentage 6513:05
uvos__maybe the battery status applet is not installed13:06
uvos__check that13:06
uvos__(idk what the package is called atm)13:06
inkycan i start  battery nidicator from console to see if it crashes or somuthing13:06
inkylet me make sure with dpkg13:06
inkystatus-area-applet-battery present13:08
inkylet me find the binary13:08
inkyno binary, it contains sdared object13:09
inkyi cannot run it to check13:09
inkyshared*13:09
uvos__you need to run it with meamo-summoner13:10
inkymaemo-summoner  [space] sdared object?13:11
uvos__iirc yes13:11
WizzupI don't see a technology file13:11
Wizzupthat's very likely the problem13:11
uvos__Wizzup: create one13:11
Wizzupit looks like my patch still applies but needs to be changed13:11
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/blob/c62a8aeab344523190c7f539de60d94ba6c9cc5f/drivers/power/supply/axp20x_battery.c#L18313:11
Wizzupparazyd: what is our most recent branch13:12
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/tree/maemo-5.14 ?13:12
parazydThis + patches in beowulf-devel branch13:13
Wizzupwell, the patch is not working, there is no technology file it seems13:14
Wizzupis that is not there, everything in maemo ignores it13:14
Wizzupit is missing a return13:15
Wizzupreturn 0;13:15
Wizzupthe flow of the function changed13:15
Wizzupso it sets the value but then returns -EINVAL13:15
Wizzupmystery solved :)13:16
inkyuvos, i get undefined symbol13:29
Wizzupinky: no need to try status applet for battery13:30
Wizzupthe problem is the sysfs entry13:31
Wizzupbut I think my above solution might not work, since it does seem to return 013:31
Wizzupbut the problem for sure is that the technology sysfs file is missing13:31
uvos__why would the status applet care about technology anyhow13:31
uvos__upower is picking up the battery it seams13:32
uvos__type  should be enough to ensure its a battery no?13:32
inkyhttps://pasteboard.co/KaYntg4.jpg13:32
inkyanyway that's what i get13:32
Wizzupuvos__: because the technology matters, it's used to filter out bogus batteries13:34
Wizzupthe n900 has several, for example13:34
uvos__that sounds like a hack though13:35
uvos__i know n900 has 2 charger chips13:35
uvos__one falsely reports the connected battery as not li-ion?13:35
Wizzupwell, it's how it currently always worked, and the pinephone not specifying the battery tech is also wrong13:35
uvos__not really its fine by spec13:35
Wizzupuvos__: something like that, yeah13:35
uvos__the circut might not know13:35
inkyand output of ubattery: https://pasteboard.co/KaYp9mg.jpg13:36
uvos__like if they are regular AA batteries or whatever13:36
uvos__cant we just blacklist one of the n900 chips by name?13:37
inkyanother question (again) have you heard of megi's patches?13:37
Wizzupthey are there.13:37
inkytdat inccease battery life13:37
inkyare they in mainline? or you apply to tde kernel neparately?13:37
inkyseparately13:37
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/pine64-kernel/branches13:39
Wizzupuvos__: that sounds more ugly than properly exporting the technology of the battery of the device, which we know13:39
Wizzuphttps://github.com/maemo-leste/mce/blob/master/modules/battery-upower.c#L35313:40
Wizzup+ https://github.com/maemo-leste/status-area-applet-battery/blob/master/batmon.c#L6413:42
uvos__hmm relying on some unrelated (broken) implmentation detail of the n900's chip to detect it that can be valid on other deivces (like ones with primary cells, ok rare i know) seams way more ugly than a blacklist based on the chipname13:43
uvos__yes we should also fix the pp kernel to show the right tech13:43
parazydinky: We're using megi's 5.14 kernel branch already13:45
parazydIn devel13:45
uvos__mce also uses a blacklist by chipname13:45
uvos__just pull the more sane code from there into the status applet13:45
uvos__https://github.com/maemo-leste/mce/blob/81c3c41bef4d0d21924138e450d279105b3ad10f/modules/battery-upower.c#L6813:45
Wizzupyup, possible14:00
Wizzupstill, mce also checks for tech14:01
Wizzuplike I said14:01
inkyi have added /leste  beowulf-devel15:56
inkyand i am doing upgrade from it15:56
inkyit brings me linux-image 5.1415:57
inkyand uboot15:57
inkyno battery indicator with this either16:01
inkyWizzup do you have the indicator with devel kernel?16:02
parazydIt's known to be broken on pinephone, we'll fix it.16:03
inkyokay (:16:04
rafael2kbtw16:25
rafael2kI have no battery indicator16:25
rafael2ksince a long time16:25
rafael2kanything I should try?16:26
rafael2kparazyd: updated to -devel, including kernel 5.1416:26
rafael2kstano: OK, I already built firefox, so I think the pp will be fine16:27
rafael2kbtw, when X crashed, it seems the system loses the network configuration, and I can not ssh to it16:29
rafael2kparazyd: how to switch to opengl ES?16:30
rafael2kWizzup: behavior in X, for example, the vkb keeps going black, with half the widgets in the lower part going black, also in firefox, the flickring continues, but reduces16:31
rafael2k*reduced16:31
rafael2kindeed, almost useable with GL enabled, but not yet (at least to me)16:32
parazydfwiw I think in portrait it's pretty usable16:34
parazydNeed to still try the updates I made yesterday16:35
uvosbtw i can confirm that https://www.ebay.de/itm/173307495965?hash=item2859ee861d:g:rwMAAOSw1fJa8agr work really well with mapphones16:36
uvosin mode 1 its powerd by cpcap and powers the downstream ports from it too and plug detection is reliable16:37
parazydNice16:37
uvosin mode 3 it charges the maphone16:37
parazydSo both otg and charge at the same time or?16:37
uvosand downstream usb device work great too16:37
uvosparazyd: yeah16:37
parazydSounds ideal :)16:37
uvosyou can choose to charge the d4 or take its power for downstream devces :)16:37
uvosit really is16:37
uvosi can use it for the bonic now to have a kbd for debugging :)16:38
parazyd:)16:38
parazydYeah and perhaps the tablets16:38
uvosyeah16:38
buZzuvos: does it output 5V?16:38
buZzor 3.3V?16:38
uvos5v, cpcap supplys 5v @ 200mah max to the hub16:38
buZznice!16:38
uvosand that powers the downstream devices16:38
uvosif you switch the litte switch on the hub to 3 and insert a charger to the thing soccet with a lightning bolt it supplys 500mah to downstream devices and also charges the d416:39
parazydGreat to make some sort of desktop dock too16:40
uvosyeah16:40
parazydI haven't played much with the hdmi lately16:40
parazydMaybe 2 years ago16:40
parazydThen I managed to only duplicate output16:41
buZzi really want those official motorola desktop docks16:41
parazydAnd had to keep same resolution16:41
uvosworked "fine" 4 months ago16:41
buZzthey look so solid16:41
uvosjust hildon freaks out16:41
parazydPlus internal ts went blank16:41
buZzbut 5usd item + 30usd shipping? nooo thanks16:41
parazydYeah, I know16:41
uvosyou have to kill it16:41
parazydBut saying I didn't look why16:41
uvosthen it restarts and works16:41
uvosparazyd: ok16:41
parazyd*nod*16:41
uvosbuZz: its a made in china item16:42
uvosthats just german ebay16:42
uvosgo find it elsewhere16:42
buZzuvos: that isnt the original motorola one, is it?16:42
uvosno ofc not i thought "5usd item + 30usd shipping" refered to the chinese hub16:43
uvosyeah the moto ones are expensive usually16:43
uvosthe lapdocks even more so16:43
uvosi gues you could 3d print something for the chinese hub internals ;)16:44
buZzthe moto ones are -cheap-16:44
buZzif you live in US :P16:44
uvossure eyah16:44
uvos*yeah16:44
uvosin us you got them free for a while16:45
uvos(with the devices)16:45
Wizzuprafael2k: yeah so still some xdamage issues16:48
sicelostano: pop3 asterisks ... if you were looking for a way to recover the password, it's in gconf16:59
rafael2kalso, with the new updated, I "lost" the modem17:40
rafael2kofono scripts and AT device file are not there also17:44
Wizzupuvos: well one of the boots up at least17:52
Wizzupthe rest show leds, maybe they're charging17:52
uvosthats something :)17:54
uvoshow is the physical apperiance?17:54
rafael2k# Userspace crypto wrapper cannot use aes-xts-plain64 (-95)17:57
rafael2k:(17:57
rafael2k /sys/class/gpio directory does not exist... and eg25 init script seems to need them to bring up the modem18:01
rafael2k# Misc devices18:29
rafael2k# CONFIG_MODEM_POWER is not set18:29
rafael2ksomethings are missing in megis 5.14 kernel which was rolled to the repo18:29
parazydah thanks18:36
parazydYeah I ported our 5.10 config to 5.14 so missed some things it seems18:36
rafael2kthanks for bringing the megi's kernel to the repo!18:39
rafael2k; )18:39
rafael2kmodem_power is something I like, easy to enable / disable / restart the modem18:39
uvosyou really should never have a reason to do that outside of ofono18:45
rafael2kI don't think eg25 script will go away...18:46
rafael2kthis is before ofono kicking in18:46
rafael2kofono init depends on eg2518:47
uvossure18:47
uvosbut userpsace messing with gpios is not a solution.18:47
uvoslong term anyhow18:47
uvos(just guessing what it dose by what you wrote above i dont have a pp)18:48
Wizzupuvos: more are starting to work after charging18:48
uvosWizzup: yay :)18:48
uvosWizzup: so how is the cosmetic condition, they looked kinda rough on the ebay listing18:51
uvosalso are all mz617 or did some other variants slip though18:51
rafael2kuvos: should be echo 1 > /sys/class/modem-power/modem-power/device/powered for start, and echo 0 > /sys/class/modem-power/modem-power/device/powered for stop()18:51
uvossounds fine (ish) but why is runtime pm not used for this18:52
uvosoh well18:52
uvos /sys/class/gpio whatever it dose with that is bad and needs to be implmented in the driver18:52
uvosreally18:52
Wizzupuvos: most looks good imho18:58
Wizzuplook*18:58
rafael2kthis is why megi wrote modem-power driver... so now you don't need to echo to "gpio"19:01
rafael2kthe current eg25 in maemo will not work with recent megi's kernel, as now the specific driver does the lower level calls19:02
rafael2know the userland just need to poke with /sys/class/modem-power/modem-power/device/powered19:03
Wizzupuvos: so far all seem to work/boot19:06
uvos rafael2k: ok that sounds ok ish but still the modem driver should just use the kernel pm framework, likely.19:08
uvosthere might be a reason not to19:09
uvosi never even looked at the pp hardware19:09
rafael2kuvos: true, I dunno why to use a separate mechanism... anyway - it is indeed an easy access "kill switch" for telephony - and the reasoning behind this could be security - as it seems the default state of the modem in megi's kernel is disabled19:13
parazydBut there's also the dip switch19:15
parazydIf you want it off19:16
parazydOtherwise, imho it should be on normally19:16
parazydExcept if in flight mode19:16
rafael2kthis will never go upstream like this...19:16
parazydDoesn't19:17
parazydmatter19:17
rafael2kyeap19:17
rafael2kI want to upgrade its firmware and I have it back19:17
rafael2krun this firmware: https://github.com/Biktorgj/pinephone_modem_sdk19:18
rafael2k(*when I have the modem back)19:19
rafael2khi quality VoLTE calls are possible now19:19
rafael2k(with 48kHz audio mode)19:19
rafael2kalso wanna test calls recording playing with pulseaudio / alsa19:20
parazydWhich reminds me19:20
parazydWe should have a dialer feature which lets you record calls19:20
rafael2kand at some point finally finalize my dialer using ofone19:20
uvosparazyd: sure19:21
rafael2kyeap, that is the idea19:21
Wizzupuvos: I think all work19:21
uvosWizzup: nice :)19:21
Wizzupcool..l19:21
uvosparazyd: all devices we have support call recording19:21
parazydGreat19:21
uvosbut we have to deal with ones who dont too19:21
parazydI guess you could loopback pulse in a similar fashion like you can do with alsa19:22
uvosno19:22
parazydoh?19:22
rafael2kmodem has two audio routing options (at least) in the pp19:22
uvoslike xt1602 you cant route the modem audio back to the cpu afaik19:22
uvoson any device where the audio isent handeld by the cpu at all19:23
parazydok19:23
uvoslike mapphones, pinephone, xt1602 (i think most modern devices really)19:23
uvosyou need hw support to get the audio19:23
rafael2kin the pp you can still route direct, not going throug the cpu19:23
parazydI wonder how we can then do audio filtering on those19:24
uvosrafael2k: right thats what im talking about, not all devices support routing non direct19:24
rafael2kuvos: correct19:24
rafael2kparazyd: one of the audio routing options can route the audio through the cpu19:24
uvosparazyd: well in cellular calls the modem filters for us19:24
uvosin other calls we do it normaly19:24
uvosif you want to filter in some custom way19:25
uvosyour sol on some deives19:25
parazydYeah I'm thinking custom filters as well19:25
parazydChanging pitch or whatever19:25
uvosim not sure you can on mapphones19:25
uvosid have to look at the registers19:25
uvosyou can get call audio to cpu19:26
uvosnot sure you can get cpu audio to the call19:26
parazydI see19:26
parazydYeah this might be possible only on non-modem calls then19:26
uvoscertenly android dosent do this so acerning the registers needed might be non trivial, but not sure sre might have figured it out allready19:28
siceloandroid call recording applications don't work on droid 4 running android?19:33
uvossicelo: ?19:33
uvossicelo: yes they do19:33
siceloxt1602?19:34
uvosoh yeah19:34
uvosthere they dont19:34
sicelook19:34
uvosthats what im basing the "like xt1602 you cant route the modem audio back to the cpu afaik"19:34
uvoson19:34
uvosits possibe it really can in hw19:34
tmlindWizzup, uvos: looks like the tc358775 (with a linux driver) is pin and register compatible with earlier tc358765, no luck yet with display output on mz617 though, good to hear the cheapo devices are booting :)20:50
uvostmlind: good to know, dosent sound like to should be tooo hard, we are likely just missing some gpio to power up the pannel regulator or something like that. or maybe EXTCLK on the tc gated21:03
tmlinduvos: yeah so tc358775 has just the extra stby gpio compared to tc358765 it seems, i think the remaining issues are in omapdrm drive21:08
tmlindr21:09
uvostmlind: o21:09
uvostmlind: ok21:09
tmlinduvos: the panel backlight seems to work with the lp8550 driver21:09
uvostmlind: ok21:10
uvosthats sounds more nasty then :P, are you suspecting somethings wrong with the dsi input fro the tc?21:10
tmlindso should be fairly close except for some mystery bugs21:10
uvosok21:10
uvos*for21:10
uvosdsi is pretty easy to decode with a logic analyzer21:11
tmlinduvos: so i added panel-simple support too but getting; Cannot find any crtc or sizes21:11
uvosmaybe i can dump android and mainline output21:11
uvosdo you have some high res photos of the board?21:11
uvos(if you think it might be usefull)21:11
tmlindno21:11
uvosok21:12
tmlindi think it's just some bug in omapdrm remaining somewhere21:12
uvosok21:12
tmlindit's like the enable functions for bridge or display never get called21:12
uvosoh ok21:13
uvosif you have anything specific you want me to investigate, ill check in  whenever i have one :)21:13
tmlinduvos: so i just set up motorola-mapphone-tablet-common.dtsi as most peripherals are different21:13
uvostmlind: ok sounds sane21:14
uvosjust shares the cpcap dtsi then i assume21:14
tmlinduvos: i'll send you my hacks when you get one, still nothing worth posting it seems21:14
tmlinduvos: yeah cpcap seems to work for charging and usb, have not tried audio21:15
tmlinduvos: also modem gpio pin wirign is slightly different, but that's about it i think21:16
uvosi mean that makes sense its a diff modem after all21:16
tmlindyeah21:17
tmlindthere's an existing bridge driver for am57xx-idk-common.dtsi21:18
tmlindthat's parallel to dsi panel, so a bit different but i guess it works21:18
tmlindoh and wireless is still flakey and won't come up automatically for some reason21:19
tmlindrestarting it manually works fine though21:19
uvossame chip?21:20
tmlindyeah21:20
uvos(as mapphones)21:20
uvosok21:20
uvoswierd21:20
tmlindyeah, i calibrated it too with your scripts21:20
uvostmlind: needs different fem parameters maybe21:20
uvosthe pa might be different21:20
uvosor ant is in different place21:20
uvosetc21:21
tmlindyeah21:22
inkyvery hard to use pinephone (without hw kbd) with leste: have no backspace key, cannot delete something that is already written21:22
tmlindbut it basically boots with droid4 dts more or less21:22
uvosinky: yeah backspace cant work21:22
uvosinky: because of the architecture of him21:23
uvosinky: i hope i can change this at some point21:23
tmlindoh is the musb still not working for pinephone?21:23
inkygood that we have a volume up tdat is able to bring keyboard.21:23
uvostmlind: no he is complaining about the virtual keyboard21:23
tmlindoh right21:23
inkyi'll try to connect bh kbd21:24
inkybt21:24
tmlindthe m-l virtual kb sucks big time still :)21:24
uvosyeah21:24
uvosyou will get no argument from me21:24
tmlindhave you noticed how the cursor moves back to the previous key briefly after typing a new key? :)21:25
uvosno not sure what you mean21:25
uvosoh you mean the grey preview?21:26
tmlindso if you look at the virtual kb cursor while typing, it blinks between the last new character and the previous character briefly21:26
uvosthats on purpose21:26
tmlindeh21:26
uvosits whats currently pressed21:26
uvosso you can correct it by sliding your finger to the right key21:26
uvosif you mis21:26
tmlindit's a feature :)21:26
uvosit really is semi usefull21:27
uvoslike if you want to press i but land on o21:27
uvosit will show o in gray but you can slide up to i and then release and get an i21:27
uvosand the grey key gives you feedback21:27
tmlindheh, i made a script called upd to do apt-get dist-upgraded to avoid typing more characters on bionic.. i guess i should rename it to u :)21:27
uvos*grey letter21:27
uvos:P21:28
tmlindhmm i guess i should try the sliding though21:29
inkyuvos this is great, i can use armenian kbd in debian's pidgin without doing setxkbmap by hand21:29
inkywhat did you do?21:29
uvosum21:29
uvosnothing21:29
inky(but i cannot pcess enter to send the message)21:29
uvosinky: enter sometimes dosent work the first time21:30
uvosnot sure why21:30
inkyit writes in ghk app from debian21:30
uvosopen the vkb again press enter a few times21:30
uvosand close it again21:30
inkyi was doing setxkbmap by hand to make it write21:30
inkyyes, it wocked necond time with surf, but doesn'h work with pidgin. :/21:32
inkyworked, second21:32
uvosok no idea than atm21:32
uvos*then21:32
inkysurf is in maemo repos, may be adapted for hildon?21:32
inkyand pidgin is from debian.21:33
inkywhat do you think i can modprobe to test bluetooth?21:42
sicelono backspace on him vkb? :-/22:06
uvosthe way him works fundamentaly precludes a backspace key that works beyond the text you just enterd22:08
siceloah, so not that backspace isn't there (i was getting surprised!), but text editing is not 'normal'22:09
uvosright22:09
sicelothe cursor grey/movement is also used when there's word completion (i don't think this works on Leste yet, or does it now?)22:12
uvosno22:12
siceloWizzup: sorry, can't test Leste + N900 for a while22:14
inkyso osso mahjong was open source22:30
inkydoes anyone know if osso tetris was open source?22:30
Wizzupok yeah all 11 boot to android desktop22:41
uvosWizzup: great22:42
uvosare all mz617?22:42
uvosor are some wifi variant etc22:42
WizzupI haven't done much beyond charging and starting them22:44
Wizzupif you have some instructions I can do that in a bit22:45
uvosWizzup: its on the back of the device22:45
uvosMODEL: blabla22:45
Wizzupall are mz617-1622:47
uvosWizzup: ok22:47
uvosto bad22:47
Wizzupremind me?22:49
uvosmz617 is the us wifi variant there is also mz615 (euro version) mz614(euro wifi) mz613? (us wifi) etc22:50
uvosif we had some that where not mz617 we could claim support for these other variants22:50
uvosbut its not a big deal22:50
WizzupI ordered from the us, so to be expected22:51
uvoswell you could have goten a wifi one ;)22:51
uvosi gues they wher not popular22:51
stanoDesktop Command Execution Widget seems to run the command constantly?  http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/desktop-cmd-exec/23:34
stanowhat if i want a widget that just executes when tapped23:34
sicelodoesn't run constantly, unless you set it to. execution config can be controlled by either long-pressing or tapping the desktop then clicking the cog wheel, then pressing the setting button on the widget23:36
stanoafter install Desktop Command Execution Wiget should appear under Desktop menu -> Add shortcut?23:39
siceloyes. you may have to reboot or restart hildon desktop, as there's some sort of bug atm, which causes new widgets to not be detected first time23:40
stano/usr/sbin/dsmetool -k /usr/bin/hildon-desktop and restarting didn't do it23:42
stanoi want four widgets to set screen brightness23:43
siceloreboot, and yes, dcew should be able to do what you want23:43
stanoreboot hangs at [  10.989...] asoc-audio-graph-card soundcard: No GPIO consumer pa found23:45
stanogood thing i have that torx screwdriver always handy23:48
sicelovol button + power works all the time23:49
stanoif your vol button works :)23:49
siceloright23:49
stanonow device can't boot past kexec.  reboot loop23:51
stanopulling battery again got me to booting23:54
parazydok, I see a few things are gone in the devel kernel on pinephone. Will sort it out.23:56
parazydSupposedly battery life should be better too23:56
stanoDesktop now has "Add widget" menu item23:58

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