libera/#maemo-leste/ Monday, 2021-08-09

stanosurf2 does seem like best browser option03:32
stanothis seems to be a bad way to get larger fonts in gtk apps xrandr --output DSI-1 --scale 1.2x1.203:43
stanopalemoon palemoon_29.3.0-2.gtk3_armhf.deb built for Debian 9.0 runs on droid4 - no compilation needed. https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Astevenpusser%3Apalemoon-GTK3&package=palemoon03:44
stanobut it's slow and fonts/icons are too small and has no kinetic scrolling03:45
stanowhoever made fonts-noto* required for random things deserves a bit of material scolding03:51
stanoi have a cool idea!  a daemon that sees what application has foreground, and maps volume buttons to different keys depending on app!  e.g. browser would get pgup/pgdown mapped, media player would get volume mapped05:27
stanoclicking around in palemoon is pretty fast though.  https://forum.palemoon.org/download/file.php?id=16221&t=107:25
stanoi discovered that export GDK_SCALE=2 yields finger-tappable gtk3 gui elements: http://0x0.st/-J88.png10:12
stanowithout hildon-desktop palemoon can go fullscreen with 100% webpage, no gui waste: http://0x0.st/-J8A.png10:17
stanopalemoon is super usable in fullscreen mode :)10:28
stanothe trend of websites to phone-friendly layouts really is helpful with 960x54010:32
bencohhow does palemoon fares vs firefox?10:42
bencoh-s10:42
stanoi think it's slower with javascript, but i don't use javascript heavy sites10:43
bencohhmm, if so I wonder why10:44
stanoit's better with arrowkey scrolling. firefox munged that up.10:44
stanofirefox has new javascript engine that's faster10:44
bencohah10:44
bencohoh btw, for those using firefox: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#Touchscreen_gestures_and_pixel-perfect_trackpad_scrolling10:45
bencohthis might apply to palemoon as well10:45
stanocan we make hildon respond to fullscreen request more compatibly?10:45
stanodoesn't seem to :/10:47
bencoh?10:48
stanounder openbox palemoon gives fullscreen on F11 toggle. Under hildon it cannot.10:48
bencohmupdf goes fullscreen just fine10:49
stanoMOZ_USE_XINPUT2=1 didn't get me kinetic scrolling with finger drag10:49
stanoi'll test that here10:49
bencohtbf firefox doesn't go fullscreen with wmii either10:49
stanowhat's the fullscreen toggle with mupdf?10:50
stanoah 'f'10:51
stanoyes works here also.10:51
stanoit's impossible for me to websearch "pale moon" and get related results, btw.10:54
stanoif they hate it, it's good.10:55
uvoshildon supports fullscreen to spec as far as i know.11:26
uvoswhen you try to fullscreen ff creates a fullscreen ewmh window and then immidatly deletes it again and creates a windowed one11:27
uvosno idea why but its not hildons doing11:27
uvosmaybe it thinks that the resultion it gets cant possibly be fullscreen or something11:27
stanoah palemoon is doing the same thing11:27
stanothanks for the info!11:27
uvosalso ff supports finger scrolling and all gestures you would expect (exactly the same ones as ff for android)11:28
uvosincl. selection etc11:28
stanomhm, palemoon is honoring arrow keys properly unlike firefox so i am content11:28
stanothing is it works without hildon11:28
stano/usr/sbin/dsmetool -k /usr/bin/hildon-desktop  then fullscreen works11:29
uvosnot sure what you mean by arrow keys not working11:29
uvosthey work fine11:29
uvosand scroll the page11:29
uvosand ff has several modes like caret browsing if you want to press links with the arrow keys11:30
stanoi just get firefox closing after f1112:10
stanofirefox-esr12:10
stanolooks like it's in nsWindow.cpp, nsWindow::MakeFullScreen(bool aFullScreen, nsIScreen* aTargetScreen)12:26
stanoit tries to notify the taskbar that we will be entering full screen mode, and if taskbarInfo doesn't return proper thing, it aborts12:26
stanolet's see how it does without any WM12:26
stanowithout WM it's 1/4 size12:28
uvosyour looking at the windows version12:44
uvoshttps://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/tip/widget/gtk/nsWindow.cpp12:47
uvosreal function is there12:47
uvosi suspect its ApplySizeConstraints that causes a abort12:48
stanoyes i was just looking at that12:49
stanoah widget/windows is probably microsoft windows :)12:50
stanosurf2 is really the winner though right now13:49
stanothough palemoon is loading some stuff a bit faster, and i see webgl working in it13:56
stanowell webgl globe gets 1fps hrmph14:11
stanorunning glmark2-es2 on maemo-leste still makes me happy14:13
stano"it works"!!14:13
bencoh:]14:25
uvosprobable ofono bug on d417:57
uvos([('/motmdm_0/voicecall01', {'State': <'dialing'>17:57
uvoscall never exits state dialing17:57
uvosin reality it ends upaltho its connected as expected17:58
uvos*in reality it ends up connected as expected17:58
chrisgadgetwho19:00
stanoi can build applications and not lose frames in picodrive :)20:13
stano18-20% cpu20:13
stanomissing diagonals though.  that's no good.  gotta get diagonals on "." and "OK" and downleft, downright20:14
stanoparazyd: this builds and seems to run without any issues https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/mihphoto20:27
stano'o' to get back out of image view.20:28
stanooh wait scrolling the file list isn't working for me20:28
uvosstano: no shit that compiles its in ci22:11
uvosWizzup: dose hildon not have a seris of stock icons?22:11
uvosWizzup: like any other de22:11
stanoit's not a desktop22:25
stanoit's not in my apt-cache search though uvos22:25
stanotwo different objects with 'it's22:25
uvossure hildon is essentailly a de22:26
stanojust being pedantic22:26
stanohave you tried mihphoto?22:26
uvosmihphoto/stable,now 1.0.14+2m7 armhf22:26
uvosyes22:26
stanoi couldn't get the directory list to scroll22:26
uvosits in the repos22:26
stanohm22:27
stanoi must have typoed it22:28
uvos[22:37] <uvos> !build sphone beowulf-devel22:38
uvos[22:37] <lel> Unauthorized22:38
uvos^^^ parazyd22:38
uvosalso parazyd im not sure how im supposed to install https://github.com/maemo-leste/sphone/commit/99b546429b610006bd2b43b4411a22723336fd4c with autotools so that they endup in applications/hildon22:39
uvosinstead of just applications/22:39

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