| uvos | nother small sphone update | 00:29 |
|---|---|---|
| uvos | it now supports xdg intents | 00:29 |
| uvos | so you can xdg-open tel:01395943339 or xdg-open sms:01395943339 | 00:30 |
| uvos | this means any address book should work | 00:30 |
| Wizzup | uvos: awesome | 10:14 |
| Wizzup | https://www.xda-developers.com/waydroid-android-apps-on-linux/ | 13:14 |
| dreamer | does it need wayland? | 13:17 |
| Wizzup | yes | 13:18 |
| dreamer | hmm, seems it does | 13:18 |
| dreamer | hmhm | 13:18 |
| dreamer | meh. | 13:18 |
| Wizzup | still, nice to see a non-slow anbox thing | 13:19 |
| Wizzup | :P | 13:19 |
| dreamer | ja | 13:19 |
| dreamer | talking about slow .. wonder if madeddie sent the droid4s yet :P | 13:19 |
| Wizzup | haha | 13:19 |
| uvos | more reasons to transition the hildon stack/dsme to be a xdg-session | 13:37 |
| Wizzup | I think we need a 'papercuts when we have a working stack' list :P | 13:39 |
| uvos | right | 13:39 |
| uvos | would be lovely if you could have a hildon session on vt1 and a sway session on vt2 with this runing | 13:40 |
| uvos | then you could just swtich between leste and android with chvt | 13:40 |
| dreamer | hehe | 13:40 |
| bencoh | uvos: what would prevent it as of today? | 13:42 |
| uvos | you could do that manually rn (well ddk1.9 will stop you). but if hildon where a xdg-session then your session manager of choice could do this for you | 13:43 |
| uvos | since we use a global xsession for hildon | 13:43 |
| uvos | and dmse makes lots of assumptions about there being only one session and that session being on only one user (user) | 13:44 |
| uvos | real session managers break | 13:44 |
| lel | IMbackK opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/mihphoto/pull/2 (Update mihphoto.desktop) | 13:51 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: I think if we haven't done it yet, we can probably enable parallel boot | 14:09 |
| parazyd | We can do it in image builder, sure | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | hm.... | 14:10 |
| Wizzup | does no package own rc.conf? I guess openrc does? | 14:10 |
| parazyd | Obviously | 14:11 |
| Wizzup | we need to come up with a way to update these config files without telling people 'just dd again' | 14:12 |
| Wizzup | I really don't like doing that | 14:12 |
| Wizzup | (I'm sure it's the same for others) | 14:12 |
| parazyd | ok | 14:12 |
| parazyd | I'm open to suggestions | 14:12 |
| Wizzup | uvos: btw: when I start sphone dialer on the n900, the screen just goes black | 14:12 |
| parazyd | But not now | 14:13 |
| parazyd | I'm way too busy | 14:13 |
| uvos | Wizzup: sphone sets the portrait only flag, that rotates the display thus killing the n900 | 14:17 |
| Wizzup | uvos: ah... | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | uvos: that sucks :) | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | I will keep keyboard open then | 14:21 |
| Wizzup | managed to at least start a call from leste n900 to leste d4 | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | but then I closed the keyboard :) | 14:31 |
| Wizzup | oops | 14:31 |
| uvos | right the ddk situation is still a major problem | 14:32 |
| Wizzup | can it maybe not set the portrait only flag? | 14:33 |
| Wizzup | (for now) | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | or is there a reason it has to? | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | you can set the flag that supports both maybe? | 14:34 |
| uvos | i mean look at the dialer | 14:34 |
| uvos | its... not very usable in portrait | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | yeah it's pretty bad | 14:34 |
| Wizzup | (in non-portrait) | 14:34 |
| uvos | besides until call audio works on n900 id rather not degrade the d4 experiance for it | 14:36 |
| uvos | maybe someone could look into ddk1.17 | 14:36 |
| uvos | hint hint | 14:36 |
| Wizzup | I was testing call audio for n900 just now | 14:36 |
| Wizzup | but the rotation breaking it slowed me down a lot :P | 14:37 |
| Wizzup | going back to regular work for a bit to finish this thing | 14:39 |
| Wizzup | uvos: btw if you set it to the 'supports both' flag I don't think it degrades the quality in normal operation? | 14:42 |
| Wizzup | if you open the keyboard on the d4 the same happens now anyway | 14:42 |
| sicelo | +1 | 14:44 |
| Wizzup | I also think the n900 call routing is confused because it expects telepathy to be around and answer its inquiries | 14:45 |
| Wizzup | so it seems to always be doing speech routing, which causes a lot of cpu bur | 14:45 |
| Wizzup | n | 14:45 |
| Wizzup | but that I will look at later | 14:45 |
| sicelo | not telepathy per se ... but you need 'something' that will route the audio (and of course, it's always cpu). it can be done with pure PA | 14:46 |
| uvos | Wizzup: absolutly yes it degrades the experiance | 14:47 |
| uvos | and the keyboard overriding the portrait only flag is a bug imo | 14:48 |
| sicelo | ehrm | 14:48 |
| Wizzup | it is not a bug | 14:48 |
| uvos | im yes it is | 14:48 |
| uvos | if an app saies it dosent support landscape aspect ratios forcing it into such a ratio is wrong | 14:48 |
| uvos | hildon must respect the x window aspect ratio limits | 14:49 |
| uvos | and the hildon-only flags | 14:49 |
| uvos | now you could skirt this requirement and still stay in landscape by resizeing the window sutch that it is smaller but still portrait in landscape mode or just ignore the keyboard (like android dose btw) | 14:50 |
| uvos | but as is it violates the contract with the app and also ewmh spec | 14:51 |
| Wizzup | is there any reason not to load callstate by default now for all devices? | 14:54 |
| uvos | no | 14:55 |
| uvos | there is a reason to not apply such a change to current mce | 14:56 |
| uvos | as the cmake pr adds a new config file for maemo | 14:56 |
| uvos | where you should load it instead | 14:56 |
| lel | IMbackK opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/hildon-connectivity-meta/pull/1 (Update control) | 16:40 |
| Wizzup | updating that meta as it stands will break the n900 because of the rotation | 16:41 |
| uvos | we dont install hildon-connectivity-mobile by default | 16:43 |
| uvos | and its only in devel | 16:43 |
| uvos | so i dont see why that would block | 16:43 |
| uvos | anyhow the latest version is being built on ci | 16:44 |
| Wizzup | the meta packages is installed on my devel n900s | 16:46 |
| Wizzup | and accidentily touching an icon and having my phone crash is not what I expect even from -devel | 16:46 |
| Wizzup | :P | 16:46 |
| uvos | ok | 16:46 |
| uvos | well you can wait with the pr untill rotation works on n900 | 16:46 |
| uvos | btw the plamo address book is in the repos but it, as with all plamo apps cant be installed | 16:50 |
| uvos | because of a dependancie problem that ends in pvr | 16:50 |
| uvos | parazyd: ^^^ could you look at that? | 16:50 |
| parazyd | uvos: What exactly? | 17:06 |
| Wizzup | something I am also seeing with gps, when there is no lock, there is a gps icon in the status applet with a red strike through it | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | on fremantle, it blinks when searching | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | it gives the impression gps is broken / not working to me (the strike) | 17:07 |
| Wizzup | but I can clearly see things coming in on dbus | 17:07 |
| parazyd | You wanted to rework all that gps startup | 17:08 |
| Wizzup | I know | 17:09 |
| Wizzup | I am not sure if it's related to the startup | 17:09 |
| Wizzup | I guess when I work on that, I'll just hit the bug again and fix it | 17:09 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: What do you see on dbus? | 17:10 |
| uvos | parazyd: try installing anything that depends on libkf5* | 17:11 |
| parazyd | Status applet neets to get GPS_DEVICE_MODE_NO_FIX to start blinking | 17:11 |
| Wizzup | parazyd: sattelite info | 17:11 |
| Wizzup | the liblocation clients show no fix I think | 17:12 |
| uvos | apt install okular-mobile for instance | 17:12 |
| Wizzup | maybe it missed the specific mode change or something | 17:12 |
| uvos | (plamo pdf viewer) | 17:12 |
| parazyd | Wizzup: Yeah, perhaps. Sec. | 17:12 |
| parazyd | https://github.com/maemo-leste/location-status/blob/master/src/location-status.c#L196 | 17:12 |
| parazyd | So only on fix status changed will it start blinking | 17:13 |
| parazyd | Meaning it has to get MODE_NO_FIX | 17:13 |
| parazyd | Maybe it's a bit weird(er) on the n900 | 17:13 |
| Wizzup | I wonder if it could also just recognise gps updates as some kind of mode, although I guess it would not know which one per se | 17:13 |
| parazyd | Since there's an additional binary | 17:13 |
| Wizzup | this is the d4 btw | 17:13 |
| parazyd | oh ok | 17:13 |
| Wizzup | I had some trouble with it not working and then I realised I disabled it in the settings | 17:13 |
| parazyd | uvos: Installing on the d4? | 17:14 |
| uvos | parazyd: yeah the conflict chain ends in pvr so any pvr device should do | 17:14 |
| parazyd | uvos: ok, I'll try to check it sometime in the following days. We need to finish up our grant work first. | 17:15 |
| jeanjab_ | heh | 19:23 |
| jeanjab_ | have you taken your foreign gene coding into your own cells by untrustable pharma yet? | 19:25 |
| jeanjab_ | oh it's not open-source? | 19:25 |
| jeanjab_ | oh wew, i have been reprogrammed | 19:25 |
| jeanjab_ | yes we must cheer this trojan horse | 19:26 |
| jeanjab_ | or wait, no, it's evil. | 19:26 |
| buZz | jeanjab_: the covid vaccine is opensource, yeah | 19:32 |
| buZz | jeanjab_: but why tell us? | 19:32 |
| jeanjab_ | that's a lie | 19:32 |
| buZz | lemme link you the source | 19:33 |
| buZz | https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/ | 19:33 |
| buZz | includes link to source , plus article going into the meaning of it | 19:33 |
| buZz | jeanjab_: still, why tell -us- | 19:33 |
| jeanjab_ | reverse engineering isn't open source | 19:34 |
| jeanjab_ | for one | 19:34 |
| buZz | IT LINKS TO THE OPEN SOURCE CODE | 19:34 |
| jeanjab_ | second pfizer/biontech isn't 'the' vaccine, there are many gene jabs | 19:34 |
| buZz | sure | 19:34 |
| buZz | jeanjab_: fyi, this is #maemo-leste | 19:34 |
| jeanjab_ | third, the published data isn't the same as what is injected | 19:34 |
| jeanjab_ | nah | 19:34 |
| buZz | not #sciencedeniers | 19:34 |
| jeanjab_ | i just want you to live | 19:34 |
| buZz | ok | 19:34 |
| buZz | bye | 19:34 |
| buZz | i assume its clort again | 19:35 |
| buZz | bencoh: tnx | 19:35 |
| buZz | hey, at least it wasnt the jewhatred he showed before | 19:41 |
| biontech | look that's what the *claim* the code is, but you cannot *read* and *verify* that | 21:50 |
| biontech | that's the entire problem with blobs | 21:50 |
| biontech | you cannot read and verify | 21:50 |
| uvos | jeeez | 22:01 |
| buZz | anyone else want temp ops to help kick him when he comes back? :) | 22:10 |
| buZz | i wont be awake much longer | 22:10 |
| uvos | http://uvos.xyz/maserati/videos/ | 22:46 |
| uvos | erm http://uvos.xyz/maserati/videos/ringings.mkv | 22:46 |
| uvos | parazyd: Wizzup ^^^ for a future news post | 22:47 |
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