libera/#maemo-leste/ Friday, 2022-04-22

jk_hello! congrats on the new news!! :) great work! I want to update my droid4 :D could someone show me his/hers /etc/apt/sources.list ? i think mine is outdated and I want to try the dist-upgrade command rather than getting a new image00:07
Wizzupjk_: I think you just need the normal sources.list00:10
Wizzupwhat makes you think it's outdated?00:10
buZza typo on the latest update > All devices should not automatically switch upon headphone plug or unplug events, using the switch on port module00:11
buZz'not' should be 'now'00:11
Wizzupthanks, fixed locallyu00:12
jk_Wizzup: in my droid4 life I have had 3 different sources.list , I have edited it manually. now I want to switch to chimaera00:15
jk_but apt update tells me that some repositories have no release file00:16
Wizzupwe aren't on chimaera00:23
Wizzupwe're still on beowulf00:23
jk_oh... then I misunderstood the nes-update00:34
jk_:P00:35
Wizzupwe could use help to upgrade ti chimaera, but it's not a focus yet00:35
jk_oh, that means other devices are at chimaers but the droid4 not yet?00:36
Wizzupjk_: no00:38
Wizzupjk_: basically maemo leste is a set of userspace on top of debian/devuan. and we are at beowulf at the moment, but we have the means to start working on a chimaera port, but we have other things we want to focus on first00:39
Wizzupso all our devices run the same userspace00:39
Wizzupwe also maintain some kernel repos, but that's more because we have to than because we want to00:39
Wizzup(our of necessity, so to say)00:39
Wizzupout of*00:39
Wizzupwe did the same when we went from ascii->beowulf btw, we just have one repo for ascii and one for beowulf00:40
Wizzupbut it's a lot of work and a distraction, but it's work that others can start doing right now00:40
Wizzupwe want to first have working phone calls, conversations, contacts00:40
Wizzupthen it makes sense to swap out the base distro release00:40
Wizzuphope that makes sense00:41
jk_yes, it does!00:41
jk_I fooled myseld with believing in a typo "This year we also hope to the new Devuan chimaera ..."00:42
jk_hopped instead of hope00:42
Wizzuplet me fix the typo00:42
jk_hehe00:43
Wizzupto be fair it is under "what's next" :p00:43
jk_yeah, yeah! I am just to eager to see maemo leste "finishes" haha00:44
jk_so my brain fooled me00:44
Wizzupso am I :p00:44
jk_are you daily driving leste?00:45
jk_... how do I get my droid 4 to detect plugging and unplugging of headphones?00:51
Wizzupjk_: I use it daily but not yet as my daily driver00:54
Wizzupas in, it does not have my main sim00:54
Wizzupjk_: does it not after the upgrade?00:54
jk_hehe yeah, I get it00:54
jk_nope, it doesnt...00:55
jk_may be I overwrote something log ago... ?00:55
jk_can udevadmin monitor detect the plugging00:56
Wizzupjk_: so I believe the detection only happens when audio is actively being played00:58
Wizzupthis is a thing we might eventually fix in the kernel00:58
Wizzupbut right now it's not a big deal since it only matters when playing audio anyway00:58
jk_hmm.. I'll recheck...00:59
jk_Wizzup: so, nope, my droid4 doesn't switch to headphones when playing music with mpv01:31
Wizzuphm...01:32
Wizzupwhat kernel are you on?01:32
Wizzup(also brb)01:32
jk_uname -a shows 5.15.201:32
jk_alright, no rush01:32
Wizzupare you on -devel?01:40
Wizzuphm, maybe a pa change is not yet in devel01:40
Wizzupyeah I think that's it01:40
Wizzupjk_: let me push that now01:40
Wizzupbuilding now, give it 5 mins01:41
jk_I am on stable01:43
jk_is this coordinated by a specific package? may be I need to install it?01:44
Wizzupjk_: just a moment01:46
Wizzupjk_: try apt-get update && apt-get upgrade01:47
Wizzupyou might need to reboot01:47
jk_ok. one minute01:50
jk_... updating leste-config-common leste-config-droid4 leste-config-mapphone ...01:53
Wizzupyes, and then a reboot01:54
Wizzupor just service pulseaudio service01:55
Wizzup(but can't tell you for sure if that will work ok)01:55
Wizzupfreemangordon: uvos: let's look at what other pkgs we need to build from beowulf-devel to devel01:55
WizzupI think I might port 'repodiff' (the sh script) to something in python so it's more obvious what is going on01:56
jk_... rebooting :)01:59
Wizzuplike repodiff doesn't even show the versions02:01
jk_Wizzup: it worked! :D nice! thanx!!02:03
jk_maemo-leste just gets cooler and cooler!02:03
Wizzupsorry it wasn't already there02:03
Wizzupthere's more ocming02:03
jk_nice!02:03
WizzupI'm travelling home atm and tired, so not in a state to judge if more packages can be built for stable now02:04
freemangordonWizzup: yeah, good idea to bring more stuff devel->stable07:41
buZzman, this new batterylife is amazing!08:18
buZzwonder if its my lack of calibration now but its still at >95% after ~24hrs standby08:19
freemangordonomg, I got an "update" icon in status menu, and it actually was correct - there was a new 'maep' version08:32
freemangordonuvos: great job in mce, turning LED white on power down. it was a hit and miss game trying to guess when the device had powered down before that08:48
freemangordonOTOH mce does not auto-lock anymore08:58
freemangordonhmm, telepathy-gabble refuses to connect to google-talk on droid409:32
freemangordonthe same account works fine in VM and on pinephone09:32
freemangordonWizzup: https://pastebin.com/6QvbtGSi09:56
freemangordonI guess copy/paste bug https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/blob/wip/n900/maemo-5.15-cleaned-up/debian/control#L3009:56
lelfreemangordon opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/droid4-linux/pull/4 (Fix headers package debian/control replaces:)10:08
freemangordonWizzup: uvos: ^^^10:08
Wizzuphi10:25
freemangordonhi10:27
Daanct12hi10:27
Wizzupfreemangordon: looks like it yes10:27
freemangordonwelcome home? :)10:27
Wizzupfreemangordon: not yet, I think I'm above turkey atm :)10:27
freemangordonah :)10:27
Daanct12what is Wizzup doing? :)10:28
freemangordonflying10:28
freemangordonwell, the plane is10:28
Wizzupfreemangordon: I need to check if we need to merge it to maemo/beowulf or something else10:28
WizzupDaanct12: coming back from 2 month work trip to philippines10:28
freemangordonthe PR?10:28
freemangordonok10:28
Wizzupfreemangordon: yes10:28
freemangordonthat's why I made a PR, I am not sure which is the correct branch10:29
freemangordonno hurry though10:29
Daanct12Wizzup, heh, i wonder how much internet costs on plane :)10:29
Wizzupfreemangordon: I think it needs to go to debian/control in maemo/beowulf10:29
WizzupDaanct12: 10 usd for a 7 hour flight10:30
freemangordonwhat worries me more is why telepathy-gabble gives "network error" on d410:30
Daanct12a bit expensive, do they have any data cap?10:30
WizzupDaanct12: I am sure they do, but I just email/irc/ssh10:33
Wizzupfreemangordon: do you suspect arch issue?10:33
freemangordonmhm10:34
freemangordonupgrading pinephone ATM to see if some upgrade broke it10:34
freemangordontakes ages because of libc6 upgrade :)10:34
Wizzuphm?10:35
Wizzuplocales?10:35
freemangordonGenerating locales (this might take a while)...10:36
freemangordonyep10:36
Wizzupwrt gabble, I think indeed xmpp is best for testing10:46
Wizzupalso for group chats and such10:46
freemangordonmhm10:46
freemangordonalso video10:46
Wizzupcalls?10:47
freemangordonmhm10:47
freemangordonwe are far from that, but still10:47
WizzupI never tried that, does that work on the n900?10:47
freemangordonit used to10:47
freemangordonbot skype and gtalk10:47
freemangordon*both10:48
Wizzupok10:48
freemangordonbut google disabled video calls in google chat some years ago10:48
freemangordonor rather in androif client :)10:48
freemangordonIIUC10:48
freemangordonPP upgraded, lets see10:49
Wizzupe audio calls only too then10:54
Wizzup(lag)10:55
freemangordonok, maybe openssl upgrade broke it10:57
Wizzupright10:57
freemangordonafter the upgrade it got broken on PP too10:57
freemangordonleme downgrade10:57
enycfreemangordon: I like to see newer foss-client-protocols like  Signal and Matrix  ....10:58
siceloWizzup: did the linux 5.1 branch(es) for N900 get deleted?11:04
freemangordonno, it is not openssl :(11:06
freemangordonlets see libc611:07
Wizzupmaybe certs pkg?11:10
freemangordonbut why it works in the VM?11:10
freemangordonWizzup: I have upgraded all my devices, could you check what is the libc6 version on yours?11:10
Wizzupnot atm, I can check in a few hours11:12
Wizzupwhat about the cers pkg? also is the device time ok?11:12
Wizzupcerts11:12
freemangordonFri 22 Apr 2022 12:13:04 PM EEST11:13
freemangordonalso, it is told to ignore ssl errors11:13
freemangordonanyway, have to run now, ttyl11:13
freemangordonnice flight11:13
Wizzupfreemangordon: right11:16
Wizzupfreemangordon: so what do you connect to, what host11:16
freemangordonno idea11:17
freemangordonlater on will build gabble with debug options and will see what's going on11:18
Wizzupsicelo: I don't think I deleted anything11:24
siceloi see it now on my local clone11:26
norayrfreemangordon, Wizzup - yes on n900 video calls via xmpp were working! and on n810/diablo voice calls were working!12:12
norayrfreemangordon: i don't know, isn't telepathy-gabble xmpp only? then it should not connect to google talk, because they no more support xmpp.12:13
sicelonorayr: actually it's Facebook who completely stopped xmpp. Google still has it, but severely limited12:30
sicelomy fremantle N900 has just logged in to gtalk ;-)12:31
siceloWizzup: ah, i was looking in droid4-linux instead of n9xx-linux. that's why i didn't see them on GH12:36
Wizzupright12:39
norayrsicelo, omg! unbelievable! i remember they stopped that... okay, good!13:04
norayri will ask for help, but not right now. to configure the account commandline on my droid4.13:04
norayractually when people talk about daily driver - as soon as we have the integrated xmpp working13:05
norayrthen i can use maemo as a daily driver. i already use it for emails, since we have the email client.13:05
norayrif i get the xmpp - i don't need anything else. only a better keyboard.13:05
Wizzuppali: someone took the wrong bag at the airport (mine), with the n900 serial (!)16:34
WizzupI should get it back soon I hope...16:34
uvosfreemangordon: yeah i know, the heuristic that generates the gconf path from the gsettings/ini key fails on this key16:49
uvossince its in its own path, ill fix this as soon as i can16:49
uvosanyhow https://github.com/maemo-leste/osso-applet-display/pull/2 also works around this issue (which is why i dident notice immidatly)16:50
freemangordonWTF is 'sugov' process on PP using 5% cpu all the time?!?18:13
freemangordonWizzup: any clue^^^?18:14
freemangordonugh, this is some kernel thread18:15
freemangordonhmm: 'SchedUling GOVernor'18:23
freemangordon connector_error_disconnect (connection.c:1776): connection failed: WOCKY_CONNECTOR_ERROR_TLS_SESSION_FAILED (#7): TLS handshake error: Handshake failed: error:1416D044:SSL routines:tls_process_key_exchange:internal error18:44
freemangordon:(18:44
freemangordonyeah, looks like missing certificates18:44
freemangordonbut why?18:44
freemangordonok, downgrading libssl1.1 to 1.1.1d-0+deb10u8 fixes the issue21:42
freemangordonWizzup: ^^^21:42

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