| enyc | sicelo: what about an eeasily organied way of having your browser ''in the cloud'' and delivered in whatever awys to local device, maye something better than vnc but you get the idea. | 15:27 |
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| enyc | Is tehre a protocol/method for this ? | 15:28 |
| * enyc imagines a mosh session with vnc or x2go Xspice etc tunneled over it ??? | 15:32 | |
| enyc | spice says arm little-endian compattible but wants "QXL" video driver... | 15:33 |
| freemangordon | package rtcom-presence-ui is in devel repo, feel free to test | 17:39 |
| freemangordon | it lacks support for navigation and custom profiles so far | 17:39 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: ^^^ | 17:41 |
| Wizzup | super sweet, will try momentarily | 18:35 |
| buZz | enyc: ever seen 'brow.sh' ? | 18:37 |
| buZz | https://www.brow.sh/ | 18:37 |
| buZz | might be quite sufficient for a lot of sites | 18:37 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: you test this with regular xmpp or google chat acc? | 18:41 |
| freemangordon | google chat | 18:42 |
| Wizzup | is it still possible to make new accs there? | 18:42 |
| freemangordon | it should be | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | I think I made an account there but it's not in mc-tool list | 18:43 |
| Wizzup | it only shows the ones I made manually | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | also, afaik google are phasing out hangaouts | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: use accounts-ui | 18:44 |
| Wizzup | use it in what way? | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | to create google chat account | 18:44 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: run-standalone.sh mc-tool dump | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | run-standalone.sh is a must | 18:45 |
| buZz | rtcom-accounts-plugin-nokiachat_4.140-1%2B0m5_armel.deb | 18:45 |
| buZz | hehe | 18:45 |
| buZz | wonder what nokiachat was :D | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | if you execute from remote ssh session | 18:45 |
| freemangordon | ovichat I guess | 18:45 |
| enyc | buZz: no, I haven't. thankyou for pointing out. | 18:45 |
| buZz | i'm not finding many rtcom-accounts-plugin-xxx that still seem very relevant :( | 18:46 |
| buZz | -sip seems wanted , but i'm really not sure about all the others i find | 18:46 |
| buZz | -vkontakte :D | 18:46 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I think that's the same still | 18:47 |
| buZz | oh there's also osso-accounts-plugin-skype ? why are those osso- | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | sorry, maybe I don;t understand the issue | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | it lists me tel acc, idle (irc) acc and gabble acc | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | and? what do you expect? | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: well I guess the main one is: how can I actually test this? | 18:47 |
| buZz | there's a rtcom irc plugin now? :O | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I was thinking of using my normal jabber acc using google talk | 18:47 |
| freemangordon | ok | 18:47 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: maybe I need to make an rtcom idle plugin (or maybe just build) the one from fremantle | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | I will build idle plugin | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | buZz: not quite, there is a telepathy plugin installed, but that's all atm, there's more to do | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: do we have src for it? | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: but, lets stick to google talk initially | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | ok, but I don't see a way to make an account | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | and if I fill in my jabber.org user it doesn't seem to work | 18:48 |
| freemangordon | settings-> | 18:48 |
| Wizzup | that's why I went for mc-tool | 18:49 |
| freemangordon | "VOIP and im accounts" | 18:49 |
| buZz | ah hmm | 18:49 |
| freemangordon | there should be "google talk" entry | 18:49 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: I see it | 18:49 |
| freemangordon | ok, choose it | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | ok, how do I debug it seemingly not connecting? | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | ah | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | it just shows "signing in" for ~2s when I click it, and then it goes away | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | wait, I need to push a recent fix to telepathy gabble | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | so I think it's trying to connect to google servers maybe | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | yes | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | well I don't have a google talk acc | 18:50 |
| freemangordon | but there is a bug, gime 5 minutes to push | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | and I can't find out how to make one :) | 18:50 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:51 |
| Wizzup | variant string "WOCKY_TLS_CERT_INSECURE (#6): SSL Certificate for jabber.org is insecure (weak crypto)" | 18:51 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:51 |
| freemangordon | exactly this | 18:51 |
| Wizzup | that's it then | 18:51 |
| buZz | btw did you guys ever tried to enter new appointments into calendar? :D that time and date selection gui is almost impossible to operate :) | 18:53 |
| uvos__ | yeah i know | 18:54 |
| buZz | ok, afk | 18:54 |
| buZz | it -seems- the same as the alarm selection gui | 18:54 |
| buZz | but that does work sensible | 18:54 |
| uvos__ | qcalendar ui is broken in several places | 18:54 |
| uvos__ | its qt in general | 18:54 |
| buZz | is the alarm gui not qt? | 18:54 |
| uvos__ | yes it is | 18:54 |
| Wizzup | it is | 18:54 |
| uvos__ | it is a qt clone | 18:54 |
| uvos__ | of the gtk2 one | 18:54 |
| buZz | maybe just copy what that's doing then | 18:54 |
| Wizzup | it requires qscrollers installed | 18:55 |
| buZz | either way, bye, -> dinner | 18:55 |
| uvos__ | it still dosent work sanely | 18:55 |
| uvos__ | @ Wizzup | 18:55 |
| Wizzup | ok | 18:55 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: please join/check ci channel | 19:01 |
| freemangordon | Project telepathy-gabble-repos build #18: FAILURE in 1.6 sec: https://phoenix.maemo.org/job/telepathy-gabble-repos/18/ | 19:01 |
| Wizzup | k, sec | 19:28 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: did you re-tag? | 19:32 |
| Wizzup | or change changelog version | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | both | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | well, changelog version was changed from leste2 to leste3 | 19:32 |
| Wizzup | you sure? | 19:32 |
| Wizzup | hmmm | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | so upstream version is the same | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | yes | 19:32 |
| freemangordon | I changed nothing outside of debian dir | 19:33 |
| Wizzup | File "pool/main/t/telepathy-gabble/telepathy-gabble_0.18.4.orig.tar.gz" is already registered with different checksums! | 19:33 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:34 |
| Wizzup | it looks like the source package version is unchanged with the prefix | 19:34 |
| Wizzup | is that intentional | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | yes, this is 'orig' file | 19:34 |
| Wizzup | I don't think our ci handles this case well then | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | it fails only for one of the builds | 19:34 |
| Wizzup | shall I remove src pkg and we'll get it on rebuild? | 19:34 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:35 |
| Wizzup | yes, because only the amd64 uploads source | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | ah | 19:35 |
| Wizzup | can you rebuild? | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | well, just remove the source package | 19:35 |
| freemangordon | sure | 19:35 |
| Wizzup | so from architectural pov, presence ui is what will online/offline accounts? | 19:47 |
| freemangordon | yes | 19:47 |
| Wizzup | ok, great | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | it seems it still have bugs in therms of displaying the correct status, but at least it seems to correctly control it | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | *term | 19:48 |
| Wizzup | ok, looks like I am signed in now | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | great | 19:48 |
| freemangordon | you should be able to see your gmail contacts in addressbook as well | 19:49 |
| Wizzup | status -> availability shows a green dot, but it has no text next to it | 19:49 |
| Wizzup | actually there are two list items | 19:49 |
| Wizzup | it could be from me having other accounts in tp | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | yes, the is a bug | 19:49 |
| Wizzup | ok | 19:49 |
| freemangordon | I will fix it, maybe later today or tomorrow | 19:50 |
| freemangordon | but, functionality-wise this should be ok | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | yes | 19:50 |
| Wizzup | ok, I will remove code from conversations to make accounts offline/online | 19:51 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: fyi ^ | 19:51 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: keep in mind that now we online/offilne all accounts en masse, once I add profile editor this will change | 19:52 |
| freemangordon | but still, even now this is ok for testing IIUC | 19:53 |
| Wizzup | sure | 19:53 |
| Wizzup | the tel accounts is probably a special case | 19:53 |
| Wizzup | tel account* | 19:53 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: we shall consider how tel/ring/account0 is created | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | yeah :) | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | though it shall be put online as well | 19:54 |
| freemangordon | or maybe the one who creates it can simply set it to auto-connect and call it a day | 19:55 |
| Wizzup | right now it's still not useful as it breaks phone calls (at least it did with empathy) | 19:56 |
| freemangordon | breaks how? I was able to send sms-es from empathy | 19:56 |
| Wizzup | calls don't work, incoming calls just get rejected immediately | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | oh, phone calls from sphone? | 19:57 |
| Wizzup | from ofono | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | weird | 19:57 |
| Wizzup | yes | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | telepathy-ring shall support that | 19:57 |
| Wizzup | I think it just decided there wasn't a handler registered for it or so | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | yeah, most-probably | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | I am not sure empathy handles voice calls | 19:57 |
| freemangordon | but anyway | 19:58 |
| Wizzup | it should in jabber | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | I think cell calls use different TP interface | 19:58 |
| freemangordon | GF is traveling tomorrow and will be MIA for a couple of days so I am going to spent the rest of the evening afk :) | 20:00 |
| freemangordon | will continue tomorrow, night | 20:00 |
| Wizzup | ttyl | 20:00 |
| buZz | something i still miss is being able to -call&sms people from contacts , -save people's numbers from received SMS (make new contacts) , -copypaste ANYTHING from a sms , -being able to send ppl sms without having them sms you first | 21:14 |
| buZz | s/is/are/ | 21:14 |
| Wizzup | well this works on the n900 right? | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | fremantle I mean | 21:17 |
| buZz | i havent tried | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | I mean these are obvious defects that will be fixed in time :) | 21:17 |
| buZz | but i would imagine nokia would make 'place a call from contacts details' possible, yeah | 21:17 |
| buZz | i know | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | is what I am trying to say I guess | 21:17 |
| buZz | freemangordon was claiming that first item was working for them | 21:17 |
| Wizzup | if you click on the phone icon next to the number it would clal | 21:17 |
| buZz | but i havent seen it working | 21:17 |
| buZz | yeah doesnt | 21:17 |
| buZz | (on d4 on -devel right now) | 21:18 |
| buZz | i think #2 / #3 just bugs in that sfone interface, it doesnt allow selecting txt from received msgs , and maybe just lacks a 'make contact from #' function or something | 21:19 |
| buZz | and no clue about #4 | 21:19 |
| dsc_ | < Wizzup> ok, I will remove code from conversations to make accounts offline/online | 21:31 |
| dsc_ | sounds ominous | 21:31 |
| dsc_ | are you talking about stripping down telepathy-qt stuff? | 21:31 |
| buZz | conversations lacks the same btw, no copypaste, no 'make contact', no initializing conversations | 21:32 |
| freemangordon | buZz: call/sms from contacts kinda works (sms for sure), we just lack the UI/handlers | 21:33 |
| buZz | freemangordon: yeah, the UI doesnt let me sms or call from contacts | 21:33 |
| buZz | i think there's just some helper underwater that doesnt get installed by default? | 21:34 |
| buZz | freemangordon: how does it work for you without a UI? | 21:34 |
| freemangordon | if you install empathy and telepathy ring and create ring/tel/account0, you should be able to use empathy to send sms-es | 21:34 |
| buZz | which part of it works then | 21:34 |
| buZz | ahh | 21:34 |
| buZz | iirc wizzup told me i shouldnt install ring for now :) but i'll try | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | like, clicking "sms" in conversations opens empathy chat window | 21:35 |
| dsc_ | conversations is very bare bones atm. and should see substantial improvements in the near future | 21:35 |
| dsc_ | (c)(tm) | 21:35 |
| freemangordon | buZz: but yeah, all this is hackish, so unless you plan to do some devel stuff you better wait for it to be more polished | 21:36 |
| buZz | i dont mind it being hackish :) | 21:36 |
| freemangordon | ok | 21:36 |
| * freemangordon is afk | 21:36 | |
| freemangordon | ttyl | 21:36 |
| buZz | i'm not doing production on the phone, just texting my mom etc | 21:36 |
| buZz | telepathy-idle seems to be in devuan, btw | 21:37 |
| freemangordon | yes, but we lack accounts-ui plugin for it | 21:38 |
| buZz | ah right | 21:41 |
| buZz | quick google shows me there never was a rtcom-accounts-plugin-idle | 21:42 |
| buZz | hmmm , but there was a > account-plugin-idle.install 28-Sep-2009 17:40 179 | 21:43 |
| buZz | ah http://maemo.org/packages/view/account-plugin-idle/ | 21:47 |
| freemangordon | http://maemo.org/packages/source/view/fremantle_extras-devel_free_source/telepathy-extras/0.10.1/ | 21:57 |
| buZz | lol, liblongcat :D | 22:06 |
| buZz | sounds useful though :) | 22:07 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: will explain a bit | 22:07 |
| buZz | oh lol, NOW i get it 'libpurple' -> haze | 22:07 |
| Wizzup | yes | 22:09 |
| buZz | havent seen purple haze for sale for a while, but i now do crave it | 22:14 |
| buZz | btw for ~24hrs heavy usage of droid4 i now just use a long USB cable and a powerbank, and keep it connected all the time | 22:23 |
| buZz | seems to work extremely well | 22:23 |
| buZz | (powerbank is 2x 3450mAh 18650) | 22:23 |
| buZz | eh lol, just noticed the droid4 battery is almost same length as a 18650 | 22:24 |
| buZz | hmm :) | 22:24 |
| buZz | annnoyance on qtwebbrowser; it can only zoom in from 100%, not out from 100% to get more data or see a picture beyond pixels of screen | 23:07 |
| buZz | maybe its some setting | 23:08 |
| Wizzup | buZz: maybe collect these papercuts somewhere :) | 23:17 |
| Wizzup | irc is a good place to share but it's not a good archive | 23:17 |
| Wizzup | we could make a special label for these | 23:20 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: what I mean is that our conversations app currently attempts to online accounts etc | 23:54 |
| Wizzup | dsc_: and that's not its task, we just did it for the demo | 23:54 |
| dsc_ | gotcha | 23:54 |
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