libera/#maemo-leste/ Thursday, 2022-05-19

mighty17[m]how do we handle reboot mode in omap?10:23
mighty17[m]https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/reset/reboot-mode.yaml10:23
WizzupCaleb[m]: did you manage to do anything with the photon q? :p12:30
lelMerlijnWajer edited a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste/rtcom-accounts-plugins12:31
buZzlol what https://leste.maemo.org/PinePhone#if_you_downloaded_the_.img.xz14:00
buZzthey're extracting the xz -on- the sd card which they will write the image to? :D14:00
buZzgee, just 550MB?14:02
buZzehm, i dont think the  maemo-leste-1.0-arm64-pinephone-20220515.img.xz is able to boot?14:04
buZzhmm14:04
buZzoh > These steps should work in theory, but at the moment the image is unbootable.14:08
buZzurf14:08
buZzah, weird, now the image is 2GB ? O_o14:10
buZzwtf is happening :D14:10
buZzah well, at least its not blinking red anymore14:10
buZzxmn: do you have one? do the leds have any meaning during boot?14:13
xmnI do have one.14:15
xmnI currently am only booting into meamo under the multi-boot img, so may not have the same experience and is likely outdate or has a different kernel then fresh install.14:16
xmnBut just now the red light did come on as it started up, then went away after the startup text scrolled by.14:17
xmnIt also will blink purple-ish color when charging too. Don't remember if it will turn green once completed.14:20
buZzxmn: so from booting its fully-on red all the time?14:26
buZzuntil kernel msgs come by?14:26
buZzhmm, i'm stuck in 'fully-on red' it seems14:26
buZzxmn: i have some multiboot on the EMMC with maemo inside , but its a very eh, weird image14:27
buZzare all the OS in 1 filesystem? using the same kernel?14:27
buZzfeels like a notclever move14:27
xmnyeah pretty much14:36
xmnit's has it advantages and disadvantages. Like you can restore a img. or choose different OS to boot to, like sailfish for example or palmOS.14:37
xmnbut it can never be treated as the orig, so can't get help with things.14:38
xmnI hope to make a boot-img of only my favs at some point. Even can make a kodi boot img if that is your thing :)14:38
xmnThe red light only last at most 1 sec, then off while the kernel msgs text scroll by14:39
buZzxmn: as is, that multiboot doesnt even have diskspace to update the maemo :P14:47
xmnyeah you need to expand it to take up the full size of the sdcard. They do that to keep it working for smaller cheap sdcards I think.14:51
buZzright, but maemo's /etc/expandcard.sh doesnt work inside that multiboot image14:52
xmnI used a btfs capable app to do it via gui. But there are ways to do it in terminal too.14:52
xmnyeah I did it under manjaro14:53
xmnsince it support btfs if I remember correctly14:53
xmndid you device come with anything install on emmc?14:56
uvosmighty17[m]: iirc its not related to the omap4 on mappones14:59
uvosyou just tell cpcap you want to reboot isntead via a register write and then shutdown14:59
uvoscpcap + mbm then do the right thing15:00
uvosprobubly your pmic works the same15:00
mighty17[m]oh thats intersting15:01
mighty17[m]i dont think it'll be able to reboot to lets say recovery15:01
buZzxmn: whats hard reset? power+voldown?15:01
uvosim actually not sure how that works15:01
buZzah, yes it is!15:02
uvosbut yeah must be some way to tell mbm15:02
buZzi think15:02
uvossince android dose so15:02
xmnbuZz I forget, either when you hold the power button down for some time till it shut off. Or there is a button on the back under the cover.15:03
buZzhttps://leste.maemo.org/User:BuZz/Opinions15:51
buZz:)15:51
buZzxmn: it has a 2022 january? multiboot on emmc15:53
buZznow its booting leste from a 8GB sd, works well :)15:53
buZzi dont think video accel is working though15:53
xmnno accel16:14
xmnyou can update the multiboot version of maemo, but always remember that this is NOT the true experience of maemo-leste. For that you should install the full maemo only img on emmc or sdcard.16:16
xmnI have not had time to do that just yet16:17
buZzhmhm, its not that hard, just find a microSD you can use, and run the commands from the wiki (once i've updated them, wtf who wrote those, lol)16:41
buZz:)16:41
xmnyeah, too many things on my sdcard at the moment :)16:48
xmnI got sailfish, mobian, another one I forget ... lol and some tools on another.16:49
buZzyou own -1- sdcard? :O17:09
buZzoh 217:10
buZzgee man17:10
xmnhaha17:13
buZzlol17:14
WizzupbuZz: no accel? on pinephone?17:14
xmnno I have a bunch. Some are faster, some are too small, some are slow.17:14
buZzWizzup: i dont think so? gui is pretty sluggish, want me to film it?17:14
xmnI think I have about 4 good one for this stuff17:14
buZz:) gee man17:15
buZzdid you see 128GB microSD is now <20 euro?17:15
WizzupbuZz: what does es2_info say17:15
WizzupbuZz: if you get more than 2fps it is accelerated fyi17:16
buZzits not installed :P17:16
buZzoh, yeah >2 fps , but maybe not >10 ?17:16
bencohwhich device?17:17
bencohoh, pinephone17:17
buZzany idea which package its in?17:17
xmnyeah yeah no shaming :P .. haha. I will get it on a separate device eventually.17:17
buZzi saw references that pinephone leste is using lima? so hip17:17
buZzxmn: np :)17:18
WizzupbuZz: how about portrait17:19
buZzseems slower17:19
Wizzupreally17:20
Wizzupthat is odd17:20
Wizzupmesa-utils-extra has es2_info btw17:20
buZznot sure, i havent ever used a pinephone before17:20
buZzty17:20
buZzvirtual keyboard cant send backspace -_-17:20
Wizzupwhat app?17:22
buZzah , GL_RENDERER: Mali40017:22
buZzWizzup: terminal17:22
Wizzupyup accelerated17:22
buZzalright, gee17:22
buZzdroid4 runs circles around this :P17:22
Wizzuplower res17:22
buZzah true17:22
Wizzupby a lot17:22
buZzmaybe we can run the screen at /2 res? :D17:22
Wizzupbut yeah also mali400 is slow17:22
buZzhmhm17:23
Wizzupbut also there is a bit more we can do to make it faster17:23
Wizzupstill it is not bad I think compared to some other oses17:23
Wizzupat least at the time17:23
buZzdid i read correct that calls + data work fine on pinephone?17:24
xmnSailfish for reference rush, buttery smooth on the pinephone. So it should be able to be optimized more.17:25
xmnHalf resolution sound like a reasonable approach.17:25
xmnbuZz very OS dependent. But yes mostly it works. Some times really good other times pretty bad. sms and mms now work, just not ideally for critical use at the moment.17:27
WizzupbuZz: there are some of the same ui bugs17:28
Wizzupbut yes, should17:28
buZzhmm :)17:28
buZzxmn: yeah i'm just caring about leste ;)17:28
Wizzupso your sim will cause similar issues probably17:28
buZzif MMS is critical to you, i'd say you need to upgrade your life :D lol17:28
xmnbuZz, yup of course.17:28
xmnwell for some in the US it still very much used17:29
WizzupbuZz: wrt screen blur, that is tweakable17:30
Wizzupiirc17:30
Wizzupin gconf17:30
Caleb[m]Wizzup: I got maemo running on my d4, that was pretty fun. the photon Q seems to have immediately died on me, LED turns on when i plug it in but i can't make it turn on. I need to get some time to take it apart, pull the battery out and maybe hook up UART so i can figure out what's going wrong17:36
buZzWizzup: but, the keyboard could be 'android style' in portrait mode17:39
buZzwhere its always on screen, and your keys go straight to program17:39
WizzupCaleb[m]: nice @ d417:42
WizzupCaleb[m]: re: photon, mmmm17:42
WizzupI think I booted it to android np17:42
Wizzupmaybe low bat?17:43
WizzupbuZz: agreed17:43
Caleb[m]Wizzup: I did have it booting to android when it arrived, charged it up and all was fine17:43
Caleb[m]left it on my desk and came back to it a day or so later and it was just dead17:43
Caleb[m]At worst I should be able to combine the two PQ's I have into a working on ...17:44
buZzCaleb[m]: can you still boot android on it? droid4 can get in 'such' mode aswell17:48
Caleb[m]i haven't been able to get the display to turn on17:48
buZzif you could boot android, often their 'low battery' stuff captures the boot and holds it until >X %17:49
Caleb[m]green LED when i plug in a usb cable, nothing else17:49
Caleb[m]i left it plugged in for a day17:49
buZzwas green led still on then?17:49
Caleb[m]think so? it was a little while ago17:49
Caleb[m]i don't think the battery was dead17:49
buZzahwell, d4 is the winner anyway17:49
buZz:P17:49
* buZz tries installing anbox17:51
WizzupCaleb[m]: still, surprising18:03
Caleb[m]yep i'll have to look into it18:04
Caleb[m]shame as i was having a lot of fun doing mainline bringup :P18:04
buZzgee, on idle, pinephone runs pretty hot :P18:09
WizzupbuZz: yes, pp is only ok power wise when suspended to ram18:18
bencoh:/18:18
buZzmaybe a 'user experience review' could be made by me, n900, d4, pp18:22
WizzupI think that's too early given the state of the os, but within reach of this year18:23
buZzmhm18:23
Wizzupbbiab, will read full backlog in a bit18:24
* buZz pops sim in pp18:52
uvosCaleb[m]: sounds about right wrt a photon19:55
uvos:P19:55
uvosyes vkb in x11 mode cant send backspace19:56
uvoswrt makeing the keybord more like the android one19:58
uvos(ie it dosent cover the whole app, but resiszes moves it to fit and you type into the app's field in real time)19:58
uvosunfortionatly him is architecturally designed so that this is not really possible19:59
uvosit would be less effort to port another real vkb, like onboard etc than to make him work like this19:59
uvoshim uses pugins, and these plugins are and the api around them are geard towards having the user input a string internaly and then only passing the string along though the framework when the user closes him20:01
uvoshim never types into applications in real time20:01
uvosor deals in keycodes for that matter20:01
uvosit just sends compleated strings20:02

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