libera/#maemo-leste/ Wednesday, 2022-07-13

mighty17[m]<tmlind> "mighty17: the mesa patch is "egl..." <- Don't we already have it in maemo fork?06:16
mighty17[m]http://muru.com/linux/d4/0001-egl-dri2-Workaround-for-EGL_EXT_image_dma_buf_import.patch this one right?06:18
mighty17[m]Afaik fmg said newer mesa had some issue and so this didn't work?06:23
tmlindmighty17[m]: yup that's it, i think freemangordon had some better ideas for it08:44
tmlindfreemangordon: maybe apply the patch above meanwhile if no issues?08:44
tmlindfreemangordon: also fyi, xserver might have some gles2 issues affecting xwayland close to being fixed looking at https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/92408:48
tmlindhere's the related xserver bug too https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/128808:53
tmlindmerge request 924 above has several glamor fixes https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/924/commits08:55
* freemangordon checks08:55
tmlindhmm seems like this might be the last remaining bug https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/issues/135608:56
tmlindand this might be a pending fix for the black windows https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/xorg/xserver/-/merge_requests/93408:58
freemangordontmlind: I may have a look at mesa these days, I just get back from a long holiday and still catching up :)09:01
freemangordontmlind: the issue with glamor and sgx is one missing extension09:03
freemangordonmaybe we shall open an issue and ask for help on how to fix properly09:03
freemangordonand then the is the missing rotation support in modesetting09:03
freemangordon*there is09:03
tmlindyeah ok, looks like the folks using older intel hw are motivated getting gles2 working09:04
tmlindas it's presumably faster09:05
freemangordonI can join the effort I guess09:06
freemangordonstill, omap3 vrfb rotation is first on the queue I guess. Unless we decide to drop n900 from the list of fully supported devices09:07
tmlindseems it can be otherwise supported though, abount of ram is the bottleneck09:41
tmlindi guess up to you to decide on where to put the limited effort :)09:42
tmlindvoice calls and ssh/mosh terminal is still a pretty good use case for low memory devices09:59
Wizzupfreemangordon: I also made this trying to streamline at least what I think as important at bit: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/milestone/2310:48
sicelotmlind: precisely what i intend to use my N900 for (with or without Leste). At least here 2G and 3G still have a bit of a future13:32
freemangordonWizzup: great, I can take the ofono part13:37
freemangordontmlind: right, portin13:37
freemangordon...13:37
freemangordonporting VRFB should not need much effort13:38
freemangordonand it will benefit n950 as well13:38
freemangordonso yeah, maybe it is better to do it13:38
freemangordonmaybe it is a good idea to give some love to n950 as well13:40
freemangordonWizzup: do we still provide n950 images?13:41
Wizzupwe never did, but we did make n9 images13:55
Wizzuplooks like we don't make n9 images in the leste image builder atm13:56
Wizzupwell the jenkins automated one at leaast13:56
Wizzupleast*13:56
bencohdid leste work on n9?13:56
WizzupI think someone had it somewhat running with swrast way back13:57
Wizzupdderby did I think13:58
mighty17[m]<tmlind> "mighty17: yup that's it, i think..." <- or maybe we can just not expose it? we do know that the blobs are version 8 and i dont think thats gonna get upgraded anytime soon, so why not just remove `disp->Extensions.EXT_image_dma_buf_import_modifiers = EGL_TRUE;`14:11
Wizzupfreemangordon: cool @ ofono14:21
tmlindmighty17[m]: at least wlroots does some checks on it on startup14:43
sicelofreemangordon: great to hear you intend to still work on vrfb15:01
mglbg[m]<freemangordon> "still, omap3 vrfb rotation is..." <- Please dont <315:11
Wizzupwe won't drop n900-15:41
mighty17[m]tmlind: i already have that patch applied, still it fails with the same error16:49
mighty17[m]https://gitlab.com/pvrports/pvrports/-/tree/master/main/mesa-pvr-dri-classic16:49
uvosrotation not working is hardly a reason to drop n900 anyhow18:10
uvosits not required to use the device, even if we where to never fix it18:10
uvosif we ever find the time to port stuff to a newer toolkit (required for modern devices because of scaling) then dropping the n900 might be nessecary18:11
uvosas very likely it will flat out run out of ram in this case18:11
uvosthat said i allredy find the expierance on n900 pretty dismal, as hardly any modern desktop apps will run on it18:13
bencohuvos: like many said, n900 future will probably be mostly voicecalls+terminal18:20
bencohI still use it daily btw18:20
bencohmaemo used to have custom n900 apps for a lot of online services (reddit, twitter, fb, younameit), and I bet that kind of apps could be useful on other hw (d4, pinephone, whatever)18:22
uvosnone of that liekly helps if everything is gtk418:23
uvosfremantle is allready pretty tight after boot18:23
uvosanyhow yes, this dosent mean there are no uses for n90018:23
uvosbtw rtv is great on d4/probubly n90018:24
uvosfor reddit18:24
sicelo_Wizzup: thanks for that definitive answer18:46

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