| sicelo_ | OT: what's a good xmpp server to register on? i've had a jabber.org account since ages, but a friend reports they get "server-to-server connection failed: dh key too small" when writing to me. seems to jabber.org needs to update their stack | 00:16 |
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| sicelo_ | looking on internet, it would seem this has been going on for a long time, so i suppose it's not going to be fixed soon - hence the interest to know what are some highly recommended xmpp servers out there | 00:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | jabber.org has been in a low maintenance mode for a very long time. | 00:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | I don't think they have been taking new accounts for nearly a decade. | 00:19 |
| sixwheeledbeast | can't say I have had the above issue tho. | 00:19 |
| Wizzup | maybe try conversations.im | 00:24 |
| Wizzup | it's been working well for me | 00:24 |
| sixwheeledbeast | creep.im | 00:25 |
| sicelo_ | thanks for the suggestions. jabber.org really not looking good, https://xmpp.net/result.php?domain=jabber.org&type=server | 00:38 |
| sixwheeledbeast | there is multiple certs only one has expired. it has been B rated for ages due to 1024bit. | 01:11 |
| sicelo_ | yes, i think that's the reason my contact's server complains about 'dh key too small' | 01:16 |
| sicelo_ | Wizzup: conversations.im requires payment? the site doesn't talk about it, but i think i saw somewhere mention of a payment after 6 months of free us | 01:17 |
| sicelo_ | *use | 01:17 |
| sixwheeledbeast | get rid of that cert it's dead anyway? | 01:28 |
| sixwheeledbeast | https://letsencrypt.org/docs/dst-root-ca-x3-expiration-september-2021/ | 01:29 |
| norayr | yes, conversations.im will require payment after first three months of usage | 01:29 |
| norayr | they will cut service otherwise | 01:29 |
| norayr | i am here now via my jabber server and jabber to irc gateway | 01:30 |
| norayr | my secret tip for this small community is to | 01:30 |
| norayr | regiter at my friend's server | 01:31 |
| norayr | go to https://jabber.am:5281/conversejs#converse/register | 01:32 |
| norayr | it only requires username and password | 01:32 |
| sicelo_ | sixwheeledbeast: looking at the error message, that's not exactly happening on my end, but between servers. so i guess jabber.org advertises this weak cert, my friend's server notices this and refuses to proceed further. | 01:32 |
| norayr | we configured it to have also audio and video calls working | 01:33 |
| sixwheeledbeast | the error is complaining about cipher length i'd guess. DH as in diffie-helman. | 01:34 |
| norayr | and some extensions like message carbons and carbon copies and mam something | 01:34 |
| norayr | i use blabber client right now to write here | 01:34 |
| sixwheeledbeast | creep.im like I said before was the most secure/feature rich service I found to get a friend working. they haven't complained about issues. | 01:35 |
| norayr | yeah and http_upload also supported | 01:36 |
| norayr | it runs on freebsd by the way. | 01:36 |
| sicelo_ | sixwheeledbeast: yes creep.im has nice ratings. only issue is from their own page, "Due to its focus on privacy and ease of use, Creep.im is currently getting widely abused by spammers. Which led to its inclusion in spam lists. That means that communication with other servers is limited" | 01:52 |
| sicelo_ | not sure how negatively that would affect me | 01:53 |
| Wizzup | sicelo_: no, it's free | 09:40 |
| Wizzup | 01:29 < norayr> yes, conversations.im will require payment after first three months of usage | 09:40 |
| Wizzup | huh? | 09:40 |
| buZz | am i seeing correctly, that xterm doesnt even do 'all colors' ? it seems to use some dithering for several of the palette | 12:12 |
| buZz | hmm weird, with a scrot screenshot i dont see it dithered | 12:14 |
| buZz | hard to show, but ; https://i.imgur.com/ELAY5rs.jpg | 12:19 |
| buZz | the darkerblues seem to have some eh, line pattern over them? | 12:19 |
| buZz | might be because of 16bit vs 24bit color? | 12:22 |
| buZz | maybe the LCD itself is doing it even | 12:22 |
| uvos__ | buZz: d4 has red green white and blue green white subpixel groups | 12:38 |
| buZz | ahhhhh | 12:38 |
| uvos__ | ie blue/red has half resolution | 12:38 |
| uvos__ | relatvie to green and luminance | 12:38 |
| uvos__ | this is to save power | 12:38 |
| buZz | right | 12:38 |
| norayr | Wizzup, yes it will. The jabber account will be suspended. Application itself is floss and will continue to work if you login with other account. | 13:03 |
| Wizzup | norayr: I will be hitting that soon with my parents and friends then | 13:07 |
| Wizzup | I guess I have to set up my own server | 13:07 |
| norayr | i also did. lost connection with my mother. | 13:07 |
| norayr | then it was hard to explain by email how to setup other account. | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | so where does it say the 3 months thing? | 13:08 |
| norayr | yeah. hdat is the best solution | 13:08 |
| norayr | i am not sure it says unless the service stops working | 13:08 |
| Wizzup | I can't believe that, but I will find out I guess. | 13:09 |
| norayr | then the last message u get is about that with the link to prolong subscription | 13:09 |
| Wizzup | so I think I have been using it for half a year already | 13:13 |
| Wizzup | and nothing like this | 13:13 |
| Wizzup | but I'll verify a bit later... | 13:13 |
| buZz | i kinda wonder if the subpixelrendering in Xorg(?) can be made aware of the pattern the d4's lcd has | 13:23 |
| uvos__ | i doubt it | 13:24 |
| buZz | i guess it'll be a font rendering engine thats aware of it | 13:25 |
| uvos__ | also that would be mostly freetype iirc | 13:25 |
| uvos__ | yes | 13:25 |
| buZz | well, i'm using bitmap fonts in xterm :P | 13:25 |
| uvos__ | but also the d4's layout is more wierd than i made it seam | 13:25 |
| buZz | hmhm | 13:25 |
| uvos__ | its not rgw bgw | 13:25 |
| buZz | maybe i should dig up the microscope and take some nice verycloseups | 13:25 |
| buZz | yeah, seems to skip a line somewhere | 13:25 |
| uvos__ | but 6 pixels are handled sorta in one | 13:26 |
| uvos__ | with luminance coding | 13:26 |
| uvos__ | and then the rows are ofset by one subpixel | 13:26 |
| uvos__ | this allows the pannels dsp to make the effetive luminance resolution greater than the number of subpixels /2 | 13:27 |
| uvos__ | */3 | 13:27 |
| uvos__ | since it can bias the luminance center of the 6 subpixel group around with the white ones | 13:28 |
| uvos__ | assuming non saturated colors | 13:28 |
| norayr | i opened my mother account on jabber.am, server of my friend, which i helped to configure. when he'll have a long electricity outage at home the service will stop working but that usually doesnt happen since the ups is good enough. | 13:30 |
| norayr | i sincerely don't understand how. I had this issue with conversations.im accounts twice | 13:30 |
| norayr | with my mother and my friend. to both i had to apologize and suggest using other jabber server. | 13:30 |
| norayr | yes try to ask at conversations xmpp room | 13:30 |
| norayr | xmpp:conversations@conference.siacs.eu?join | 13:30 |
| norayr | Or here xmpp:conversations-offtopic-reloaded@conference.trashserver.net?join | 13:30 |
| Wizzup | I will just host my own | 14:48 |
| sicelo | Q: How much does a one year subscription of a Conversations.im account cost? | 18:42 |
| sicelo | A: 8 Euro (about $9 US). After a six month trial period. Subscriptions don’t renew themselves. It is not required to terminate the subscription | 18:42 |
| sicelo | https://www.xda-developers.com/conversations-jabber-xmpp-android/amp/ | 18:42 |
| sicelo | Wizzup ^^ | 18:43 |
| sicelo | Yeah it's nowhere on official site though. | 18:43 |
| sice|o | Pali: by the way u-boot n900 - is it able to initialize the usb in other modes besides uart/console? e.g. mass storage? | 19:24 |
| sice|o | usbnet, etc. | 19:24 |
| Pali | sice|o: no, because of missing u-boot drivers and because of usage old musb u-boot driver | 19:35 |
| Pali | Wizzup planned to look at upgrading to new musb u-boot driver, so maybe with this new musb driver it could be possible | 19:35 |
| buZz | ah, -that- conversations | 19:36 |
| buZz | not the program in leste ;) | 19:36 |
| sice|o | Pali: alright. understandable :-) | 19:41 |
| buZz | on https://www.pngegg.com/en/png-etczx the dithering/subpixellayout are really visible, on those blue and yellow parts mostly | 21:27 |
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