| Wizzup | uvos: does it mostly just fit? | 00:04 |
|---|---|---|
| buZz | heheh those new maemo-ringtones-mr0 all appear as 'Title Artist' | 01:03 |
| uvos | Wizzup: it fits in the bay | 01:03 |
| uvos | you just need to adapt the connector | 01:03 |
| buZz | 'Title Author' :) | 01:03 |
| uvos | its slightly smaller than the stock battery even | 01:03 |
| uvos | (yay for improved energy density) | 01:04 |
| buZz | only the filenames are different i guess :D (and their contents) | 01:04 |
| buZz | https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/2022-08-31-010412_960x540_scrot.png | 01:05 |
| buZz | :D | 01:05 |
| buZz | i didnt even know .aac -had- metadata :D | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | hmmm I did not have this problem | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | for me they had names | 01:06 |
| Wizzup | weird | 01:06 |
| uvos | the names are hardcoded | 01:06 |
| buZz | i just browsed to files in the dir | 01:07 |
| uvos | well "hardcoded" | 01:07 |
| uvos | theres a text file that names all the ringtones | 01:07 |
| uvos | (yes this is a lame solution) | 01:07 |
| buZz | ah cool, inside that pkg? | 01:07 |
| buZz | i wish it would play them if i select one in the menu | 01:07 |
| uvos | should be, i have not checked, its in fremantle | 01:07 |
| buZz | or well, at all during configuratio | 01:07 |
| buZz | n | 01:08 |
| uvos | its not in that pacakge | 01:08 |
| uvos | but we have it | 01:08 |
| uvos | its /etc/ringtones | 01:09 |
| Wizzup | uvos: check @ connector, seems like it is worth it | 01:19 |
| uvos | btw the ringtone pacakge contains only one ringtone | 01:20 |
| uvos | the nokia tune | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | weird, I think I saw more on my system | 01:20 |
| uvos | the one ringtone i would strongly advise to avoid installing | 01:20 |
| buZz | nice find @ battery, uvos :) | 01:20 |
| uvos | and since /etc/ringtones remians unajusted | 01:20 |
| buZz | 2250, dang | 01:20 |
| Wizzup | uvos: we can host it on *.maemo.org without problems | 01:20 |
| uvos | buZz: its also really 2250 | 01:20 |
| buZz | yeah polarcell is quite good | 01:20 |
| uvos | that means all the other ringtones in the list | 01:21 |
| uvos | just silently fail | 01:21 |
| buZz | i have/had one for one of my n900 | 01:21 |
| Wizzup | yeah, we should check what package they are from | 01:21 |
| Wizzup | I'll include it as well | 01:21 |
| uvos | you can check with sphone -c options if the ringtone was really set byw | 01:21 |
| uvos | if the settings app tries to set a non existant ringtone sphone will just reject it | 01:21 |
| buZz | ah, it did not :D | 01:22 |
| uvos | the only one that works is noka tune ;) | 01:22 |
| Wizzup | I guess the /etc/ringtones contains the other tone filenames? | 01:23 |
| uvos | yes | 01:23 |
| uvos | thats why profilesx will set them | 01:23 |
| buZz | can we 'leak' all of em? :D | 01:23 |
| Wizzup | they're all in MyDocs, huh | 01:23 |
| uvos | something you did probubly | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | either that or it's how they ship the image | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | pretty sure I never changed any of this | 01:24 |
| uvos | oh on fremantle | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | yeah | 01:24 |
| uvos | i thought you had them there on leste | 01:24 |
| Wizzup | nope, just checking the file on leste | 01:24 |
| uvos | we should probubly just ditch /etc/ringtones and have profiled use tags like a normal person | 01:26 |
| uvos | :) | 01:26 |
| buZz | it -does- use tags, if you browse a filesystem | 01:26 |
| uvos | thats not profiled | 01:27 |
| buZz | profilexd | 01:27 |
| uvos | no profiled | 01:27 |
| uvos | profilesx is the ui | 01:27 |
| buZz | profilesx | 01:27 |
| buZz | ahh | 01:27 |
| uvos | profiled is the deamon | 01:27 |
| buZz | on n900 , it seems that profilesx (or whatever similar they use) should be playing the ringtone when selecting it | 01:32 |
| buZz | ooh, maybe only works for the nokia one? | 01:32 |
| uvos | no | 01:32 |
| uvos | profilesx dosent try to play them | 01:32 |
| buZz | aw :( | 01:32 |
| uvos | and its not related to the nokia cp applets | 01:32 |
| uvos | its a ground up independant foss implementation | 01:32 |
| buZz | yeah, but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rXjaefEn4 | 01:32 |
| buZz | that functionality is just nicer, in selecting a ringtone :) | 01:33 |
| uvos | sure | 01:33 |
| uvos | sphones own selector lets you play :) | 01:33 |
| uvos | also adding it to profilesx isent hard | 01:33 |
| buZz | i know, this is just #maemo-leste ;) | 01:33 |
| buZz | nice! | 01:33 |
| buZz | http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/N900/ | 01:35 |
| buZz | ooo even the stock songs :D http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/N900/Music/ | 01:36 |
| Wizzup | hehe | 01:36 |
| Wizzup | brings me back | 01:36 |
| Wizzup | my n900 still has it | 01:37 |
| buZz | this opendir is interesting! | 01:37 |
| buZz | omg yaaas http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/770-Internet-Tablet/call-ringtone01.wav | 01:39 |
| buZz | hahaha | 01:39 |
| Wizzup | :D | 01:41 |
| Wizzup | I need to go the US in october, guess I should use a device other than d4 there | 01:41 |
| buZz | wtf, 770 and n900, but no n800 or n810?? | 01:41 |
| Wizzup | the d3 shouldn't have the same problems I think | 01:42 |
| Wizzup | (well it has other problems atm) | 01:42 |
| buZz | lol wtf http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/!%20Henry%20Daw%20website/ | 01:43 |
| buZz | henry daw was a nokia employee | 01:43 |
| Wizzup | I'm still stuck on http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/N900/Music/Closer%20To%20Where%20You%20Want%20Me.mp3 | 01:43 |
| buZz | :D :D | 01:44 |
| buZz | hahaha wtf http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/!%20Aleksi%20Eeben%20Demo%202018/Glume%20%5bNokia%20Ringtone%5d%20%5b2004%5d.mp3 | 01:46 |
| buZz | ok this will be my ringtone now | 01:46 |
| buZz | nice, dumb and loud | 01:48 |
| buZz | (Y) | 01:49 |
| buZz | kinda feels like these ringtones even sound better over the tinny sound of d4 :D | 01:56 |
| Wizzup | listening to the n900 music, we should also aim for openmediaplayer some time soon | 01:57 |
| buZz | :) i've been using 'silverjuke' | 01:58 |
| buZz | but mostly because it supports .cdg files :D | 01:58 |
| buZz | (like these ; http://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/karaoke/ ) | 02:00 |
| buZz | cant we just get a 960x540 pixel winamp | 02:01 |
| buZz | :P | 02:01 |
| buZz | https://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=723740&postcount=2 hmmm :D | 02:03 |
| buZz | apt install audacious works, needs a 'ctrl-p' to change the layout to 'winamp' and then a 'ctrl-d' to get pixeldoubling, although we might need pixeltripling :P | 02:08 |
| buZz | and its not transparant :( | 02:09 |
| buZz | but works ;P | 02:15 |
| buZz | oooo one for uvos; http://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/Nokia_Ringtones_Opendir_mirror/Asha-500/_system_ringtones/Nokia%20Tune.aac | 02:42 |
| buZz | finally a original nokia tune :D | 02:43 |
| buZz | lol , or http://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/Nokia_Ringtones_Opendir_mirror/206-India/Ringtones/Nokia%20Tune%20Remix.aac | 02:45 |
| buZz | wobwobwob | 02:45 |
| buZz | arf, my sphone sms-history seems empty? well, i see the threads, but no contents | 03:04 |
| buZz | not missing it seems, conversations still sees it | 03:07 |
| buZz | Wizzup: hey, retweet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBStZAGXvM0 :D | 03:09 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: sounds like you have some patch coming, let me know if you still need help debugging | 07:06 |
| mighty17[m] | freemangordon: have you worked on the bgra patch? If not I'm free this week so I could give it a shot | 07:20 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: yes, but I am still not convinced it shall go in mesa | 07:26 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: at least timeouts in servdev-ngsm look tiny compared to what is set in ts27010_mux | 07:28 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: ok | 07:30 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: but, even after increasing them I still see weird errors, like EL2NSYNC :) | 07:30 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: uploading the gnss data still sometimes fails too, i wonder if that's related | 07:30 |
| freemangordon | I would bet | 07:31 |
| tmlind | a good test case though | 07:31 |
| tmlind | https://github.com/tmlind/droid4-agps | 07:31 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: I'd rather not hack mesa, I see no issue wlroots to support one more extenstion | 07:32 |
| freemangordon | *extension | 07:32 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: I wonder, shall we block in kernel waiting for DLC 0 to open instead of returning EL2NSYNC? | 07:53 |
| _uvos_ | buZz: sphones storage method changed recently | 08:08 |
| _uvos_ | buZz: this partally breaks old events | 08:08 |
| _uvos_ | so thats expected. | 08:08 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "mighty17: I'd rather not hack..." <- Well that'd never go upstream and it's one more patch we need to carry | 08:09 |
| mighty17[m] | Also iirc tmlind did try adding support to wlroots for img, but that was pretty hacky | 08:10 |
| freemangordon | OTOH, if I hack mesa - one more patch *we* need to carry :) | 08:10 |
| _uvos_ | if you have problems with events created as of sphone 0.6.3 thats a different matter | 08:11 |
| freemangordon | hmm? | 08:12 |
| freemangordon | ah | 08:12 |
| _uvos_ | freemangordon: i think a working extention override is usefull beyond wlroots, if thats what this is about | 08:12 |
| _uvos_ | but support in wlroots is sane too ofc | 08:13 |
| freemangordon | hmm, ok, will reconsider maybe | 08:14 |
| Guest224 | buZz: more original Nokia tune with piano: http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/9500/Nokia%20tune.aac | 08:16 |
| Guest224 | and more original: http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/9210i/Nokia%20tune.rng | 08:18 |
| Guest224 | but what is actually the most original? | 08:19 |
| Guest224 | -> continue lurking thru irclog | 08:27 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: maybe check if daniel starke already has fixed related issues, git log v5.18..linus/master drivers/tty/n_gsm.c | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | we are alreay on 5.18 | 08:34 |
| freemangordon | ah, ok | 08:34 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: maybe commit 01aecd917114 ("tty: n_gsm: fix tty registration before control channel open") might help? | 08:35 |
| freemangordon | yeah, looks like it might help | 08:37 |
| freemangordon | maybe we shall pull 5.18.y | 08:37 |
| freemangordon | ugh | 08:47 |
| freemangordon | https://pastebin.com/4MRWk3tZ | 08:48 |
| freemangordon | I am surprised this works at all in our kernel :D | 08:48 |
| freemangordon | this https://pastebin.com/B1B9msSr is compared to maemo-5.18, a little better | 08:50 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: who shall pull 5.18.y? | 08:50 |
| tmlind | yeah worth try pulling, hopefully no bad merge conflicts | 08:51 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: for the testing, shall I just do git merge? | 08:51 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "OTOH, if I hack mesa - one..." <- Well right! Wlroots it is then, iirc I tried the patches from tmlinds tree but that crashes wlroots whenever i started an app | 08:54 |
| mighty17[m] | Broken bus error iirc | 08:54 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: give me some time to finish what I am doing, I'll get back to meas | 08:54 |
| freemangordon | *mesa | 08:54 |
| freemangordon | uvos__ likes that patch too, so as I said, I may reconsider | 08:55 |
| _uvos_ | freemangordon: i mostly maintain the mapphone kernel for us. so i remerge the kernel from feature branches for every major release and just merge in .y regularly | 09:04 |
| _uvos_ | so yeah merging in .y is fine | 09:04 |
| freemangordon | I am doing it ATM | 09:04 |
| _uvos_ | since thats what i do anyhpw | 09:05 |
| _uvos_ | great | 09:05 |
| freemangordon | but, I do pull --rebase :p | 09:05 |
| _uvos_ | i should probubly also rebase on 5.19 since 5.18 is eol | 09:05 |
| _uvos_ | but at this point it might make sense just to wait for 6.0 | 09:06 |
| _uvos_ | also usually i wait for tmlind to rebase his stuff first | 09:06 |
| freemangordon | CONFLICT (content): Merge conflict in drivers/power/supply/cpcap-battery.c | 09:07 |
| freemangordon | :( | 09:07 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "mighty17: give me some time to..." <- Coolio, till then I'll reapply the patch and get proper logs | 09:12 |
| freemangordon | uvos__: do we still need 7d58bfa7fbdb5e332d8aeb64723649ec78c25315? | 09:14 |
| freemangordon | the only difference I see compared to .y is that one time warning | 09:15 |
| freemangordon | I am going to drop that patch | 09:15 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: I guess we shall drop 4d3cc4fad55a53a879ae101079096ef0f3c6ff15 as well | 09:17 |
| uvos | sure @ 7d58bfa7fbdb5e332d8aeb64723649ec78c25315 | 09:18 |
| uvos | but you can temporarly drop it for testing if you want (its not enabled on leste anyhow) | 09:19 |
| freemangordon | umm, the code it is already in linus tree | 09:19 |
| uvos | ok then sure, you can drop it | 09:20 |
| freemangordon | as I said, the only difference is missing one time warning logic | 09:20 |
| uvos | i often forget what i pushed upstream allready | 09:20 |
| freemangordon | no_nvmem_warned that is | 09:20 |
| uvos | thats fine | 09:20 |
| uvos | it just uses warn once function | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | ok, dropped | 09:21 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: I am going to drop d3ceddc76538c8b104ef1e751022a59e9db31ea4 as well | 09:27 |
| freemangordon | yay! rebased :) | 09:31 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: hmm isn't that commit needed for the serdev functions? | 09:54 |
| freemangordon | yes, it is, forward-porting ATM | 09:59 |
| tmlind | ok | 10:04 |
| freemangordon | I kept your comments and sign-off, hope you don;t mind | 10:07 |
| tmlind | np | 10:15 |
| freemangordon | does not boot :( | 10:17 |
| freemangordon | but is not dead either | 10:18 |
| Wizzup | I think we 'typically' only rebase when going to a new stable (non-point) release, although if you had any conflicts I guess they would have happened anyway | 10:18 |
| Wizzup | arg @ not boot | 10:19 |
| freemangordon | well. it boots... | 10:19 |
| freemangordon | still booting | 10:19 |
| uvos | freemangordon: have serial? | 10:19 |
| freemangordon | no | 10:19 |
| uvos | :( | 10:19 |
| freemangordon | but display is inited | 10:19 |
| uvos | should i make and send you a serial adapter? | 10:20 |
| freemangordon | it waits for 6600 usb to initialize | 10:20 |
| uvos | its tirivall after all | 10:20 |
| freemangordon | I think I have dmesg | 10:20 |
| freemangordon | it is alive, just not booting | 10:20 |
| * Wizzup mumbles something about merging in fixes when just trying to fix a specific issue | 10:21 | |
| freemangordon | ok, I got shell | 10:21 |
| uvos | eh we should keep the kernel recent, for sec fixe if nothing else | 10:21 |
| freemangordon | seems udevd waits forever | 10:22 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: maybe moddep wasn't run or something | 10:22 |
| Wizzup | maybe run moddep -a | 10:22 |
| freemangordon | no, it is anotehr issue | 10:22 |
| Wizzup | ok | 10:22 |
| freemangordon | let it finish powering off | 10:22 |
| freemangordon | I'll post dmesg log | 10:22 |
| Wizzup | uvos: I agree we should, but I wouldn't mix it with fixing specific issues first | 10:22 |
| Wizzup | anyway w/e :) | 10:23 |
| Wizzup | ps: I submitted two talks for the openfest2022 call for papers https://wizzup.org/sub.png - let's see if they accept one | 10:23 |
| freemangordon | https://pastebin.com/ytV0BDB8 | 10:27 |
| freemangordon | not much to worry about, just NULL pointer deref :D | 10:27 |
| freemangordon | fixed | 10:42 |
| freemangordon | uvos: thanks for the battery link | 10:43 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: I'll need your help here https://pastebin.com/nSW8bZJp | 10:50 |
| tmlind | freemangordon: weird, maybe you have some merge conflict causing that? | 11:21 |
| mighty17[m] | tmlind https://github.com/tmlind/wlroots/commit/04491889240bbadb693aa37036dc55835118b2cc and https://github.com/tmlind/wlroots/commit/175f274372bd11f0ab8cf38f20e162522c1d78aa accomplish the same thing, why 2 different ways then? | 11:26 |
| freemangordon | I don't see how, register should be paired with unregister | 11:26 |
| freemangordon | lemme put some pr_errs | 11:26 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: umm, actually there is gsmtty1, no idea who creates it | 11:38 |
| freemangordon | gsm_activate_mux() does it now | 11:41 |
| mighty17[m] | with https://github.com/tmlind/wlroots/commit/175f274372bd11f0ab8cf38f20e162522c1d78aa patch, apps crash phosh on launch with the following logs https://paste.debian.net/1252261/ freemangordon tmlind | 11:44 |
| mighty17[m] | i dont think shader error is the cause, as it happens without the patch as well | 11:44 |
| mighty17[m] | same with v | 12:06 |
| mighty17[m] | https://github.com/tmlind/wlroots/commit/04491889240bbadb693aa37036dc55835118b2cc* | 12:06 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: for sure prv compiler does not like the shader | 12:59 |
| freemangordon | *pvr | 12:59 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: pvrshadereditor does not like it as well | 13:01 |
| freemangordon | (the shader) | 13:01 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: the issue is on the shader | 13:19 |
| freemangordon | gsk_create_rect(vec4[3] data) | 13:19 |
| freemangordon | you can' t have array as a parameter | 13:20 |
| mighty17[m] | freemangordon: the crashes occur without the compiler error as well | 13:21 |
| mighty17[m] | I suppose that occurs whenever i open something heavy like gnome control centre or Firefox (that being shader crash) | 13:21 |
| mighty17[m] | s/compiler/shader/ | 13:21 |
| mighty17[m] | freemangordon: Seems like a gtk4 issue, but even with the error, apps work fine | 13:22 |
| mighty17[m] | Regarding bgra extension, tmlind can you give it a go on 0.15 later? | 13:22 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: this shader is not compatible with language version 100 it sets | 13:24 |
| freemangordon | no matter when it errors out | 13:24 |
| mighty17[m] | So the shader itself errors out | 13:30 |
| mighty17[m] | Heh that's pretty weird | 13:30 |
| mighty17[m] | We can't modify it can we? | 13:30 |
| freemangordon | why not? | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | this is just a text | 13:31 |
| freemangordon | mighty17[m]: this https://pastebin.com/bWtDJfTY compiles | 13:42 |
| freemangordon | I have no idea why pvr compiler does not support array as function parameter but supports structure | 13:43 |
| freemangordon | still... | 13:43 |
| mighty17[m] | ie the source | 13:49 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "this is just a text" <- well where would it be stored then | 13:49 |
| freemangordon | blend.glsl? | 13:50 |
| mighty17[m] | im a bit lost | 13:50 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "I have no idea why pvr compiler..." <- that is pretty weird tho, but how'd changing from array to struct work? | 13:52 |
| freemangordon | it just does not complain | 13:53 |
| mighty17[m] | freemangordon: a file like that? | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | after that chagne | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | I guess | 13:53 |
| freemangordon | no idea who is generating that shader | 13:53 |
| mighty17[m] | so the cause is found, nice! | 14:08 |
| mighty17[m] | <freemangordon> "no idea who is generating that..." <- exactly! we dont know what to fix in what source to get this fixed | 14:09 |
| freemangordon | well... | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | Gsk-Message:... | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | what is Gsk? | 14:11 |
| freemangordon | Failed to realize renderer of type 'GskGLRenderer' for surface 'GdkWaylandToplevel': | 14:12 |
| mighty17[m] | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk probably here | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | yeah | 14:15 |
| mighty17[m] | but the shader....? | 14:15 |
| freemangordon | GskGLRenderer | 14:16 |
| freemangordon | https://docs.gtk.org/gsk4/class.GLRenderer.html | 14:17 |
| mighty17[m] | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/blob/main/gsk/gl/resources/preamble.vs.glsl hm? | 14:20 |
| mighty17[m] | only place i could find a few functions defined | 14:20 |
| mighty17[m] | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/blob/main/gsk/gl/resources/preamble.glsl | 14:20 |
| mighty17[m] | so i'll need to patch this and rebuild gtk? | 14:24 |
| freemangordon | looks like | 14:26 |
| mighty17[m] | ugh :'( | 14:27 |
| freemangordon | also make sure // FRAGMENT_SHADER: at the end gets removed too | 14:28 |
| mighty17[m] | `ERROR: Reached end of GLSL source inside a comment!` coz of this? | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | yes | 14:28 |
| mighty17[m] | why does the compiler care tho? | 14:28 |
| freemangordon | no idea | 14:28 |
| mighty17[m] | alrighty! thanks for the fix | 14:30 |
| mighty17[m] | or this https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/-/blob/main/gsk/gl/resources/blend.glsl? | 14:38 |
| freemangordon | mhm | 14:39 |
| mighty17[m] | kinda confusing with multiple sources | 14:39 |
| freemangordon | maybe there is some kind of parser that looks for key workds to do token replacement | 14:40 |
| freemangordon | maybe it uses one more line than needed | 14:40 |
| mighty17[m] | cant say, this is quite complicated | 14:41 |
| Guest224 | I know that Nokia is nothing to do with Leste, but Nokia Tune can be statment, Nokia Tune from N9: http://onj3.andrelouis.com/phonetones/unzipped/Nokia/N9/Nokia%20tune.mp3 | 15:22 |
| Wizzup | yeah, but we probably won't ship any of that by default | 15:24 |
| Guest224 | Maybe I have to compose Maemo Tune. | 15:25 |
| Wizzup | would be fun :) | 15:26 |
| Guest224 | actually, what would be preferred fileformat for ringtones for Leste? | 15:27 |
| Wizzup | probably ogg or opus | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | probably opus really | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | there isn't a really for any other format to exist at this point (other than maybe flac) | 15:31 |
| Wizzup | really any reason for* | 15:32 |
| freemangordon | I think it does not really matter as anyway it is decoded to .wav | 15:33 |
| Wizzup | ethically I'd rather avoid aac and mp3 | 15:34 |
| Wizzup | (etc) | 15:34 |
| uvos | its not decoded to wav | 15:35 |
| Guest224 | if it is decoded to .wav then would be .wav best? | 15:35 |
| uvos | its not | 15:35 |
| uvos | sphone directly plays the source file | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | well, sphone my not decode it | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | but that does not mean it behaves correctly | 15:35 |
| freemangordon | there is absolutely no point to decode one and the same file every time | 15:35 |
| Guest224 | ok..what will be most lightweight format for it? | 15:36 |
| uvos | yes there is, it avoids sphone requireing some external deamon to save a wav somewhere | 15:36 |
| uvos | also the cost to a modern phone is absolutly trivial | 15:36 |
| uvos | to devocde an audio file | 15:36 |
| freemangordon | wasting charge in the way... | 15:36 |
| uvos | absurdly unmesurable | 15:37 |
| uvos | and also not certain | 15:37 |
| uvos | io costs more power than cpu time nowadays | 15:37 |
| Guest224 | and with N900 all lightweight is less weight. | 15:37 |
| freemangordon | yeah, and when you sum up all the little "no cost" thingies, you end up with android, using 5000mAh for a day | 15:37 |
| Wizzup | the n900 cpu isn't quite that modern | 15:37 |
| Wizzup | in any case this is a nonsense discussion imho :D | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | right now, yes | 15:38 |
| freemangordon | :) | 15:38 |
| uvos | no | 15:38 |
| uvos | im sorry sphone will never work that way | 15:38 |
| uvos | i has to do remain functional alone | 15:39 |
| Guest224 | yes..I will make .aiff first and then I think what format it would be. | 15:39 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: c165698c9919b000bdbe73859d3bb7b33bdb9223 breaks serdev driver, but I admit I lack the knowledge to fix that | 15:39 |
| Wizzup | freemangordon: this? https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/c165698c9919b000bdbe73859d3bb7b33bdb9223 | 15:40 |
| uvos | also android is not that much hevier than leste really and uses a lot les power so idk what that comment is supposed to mean | 15:40 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: no | 15:40 |
| uvos | and thats even with everything bein non native code in a vm | 15:40 |
| freemangordon | uvos: how do you compare android with leste where the kernel PM is not really functional AFAIK? | 15:41 |
| freemangordon | anyway, we are just wasting cycles on that | 15:41 |
| uvos | leste has way more wakeups/s than android | 15:41 |
| uvos | so yeah | 15:42 |
| uvos | (userspace) | 15:42 |
| uvos | anyhow yes this is a useless discussion | 15:42 |
| uvos | but wrong bashing of android i find farily ofensive | 15:42 |
| uvos | if you want to bash something at least get it right | 15:42 |
| buZz | on a droid4 , running android, it seems battery runs a lot less long | 15:42 |
| uvos | on los yes | 15:42 |
| buZz | i mean, the same battery, same hw | 15:42 |
| buZz | whatever ancient kernel android is running | 15:43 |
| uvos | los on d4 indeed has some defficanies | 15:43 |
| uvos | it still goes into lower power states than leste | 15:43 |
| freemangordon | Wizzup: commit is "tty: n_gsm: fix deadlock and link starvation in outgoing data path" | 15:43 |
| buZz | uvos: same with the stock | 15:44 |
| uvos | no | 15:44 |
| uvos | then something is wrong | 15:44 |
| buZz | i'm just saying what i'm seeing | 15:44 |
| uvos | stock idles <40mW | 15:44 |
| uvos | very regularly | 15:44 |
| uvos | and <20 too | 15:44 |
| buZz | i'm comparing data connection -enabled- phones | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | it is not about idle | 15:45 |
| Guest224 | -> I continue lurking thru irclog | 15:45 |
| freemangordon | but about usage | 15:45 |
| buZz | Guest224: \o | 15:45 |
| uvos | freemangordon: well usage is terrible on leste | 15:45 |
| uvos | freemangordon: becuase it hits no idle states at all while the display is on | 15:45 |
| uvos | while android dose | 15:45 |
| uvos | but sure thats related to d4's kernel driver | 15:45 |
| buZz | i'm saying leste on same hw with -data enabled- lasts longer than android | 15:45 |
| uvos | s | 15:46 |
| uvos | no | 15:46 |
| uvos | somethings wrong on your end | 15:46 |
| buZz | thats what i'm seeing | 15:46 |
| buZz | ok, maybe i got into a timewarp | 15:46 |
| buZz | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:46 |
| buZz | who tf cares about android though , lolol | 15:46 |
| uvos | its easly mesureable | 15:46 |
| Guest224 | buZZ: you raised hand, was it bye or do you have something to say to me? | 15:46 |
| Wizzup | clearly until we support OFF mode on the d4 it's not a fair comparison | 15:47 |
| buZz | Guest224: oh, just to say bye :D | 15:47 |
| Guest224 | :D | 15:47 |
| Guest224 | -> | 15:47 |
| uvos | its never going to be a fair comparison | 15:47 |
| uvos | because it depends so mutch on configureation | 15:47 |
| buZz | using a device generally depends on configuration :) | 15:48 |
| uvos | particularly leste is allways going to have farily random power ussage becasue of missing pm preemtion for apps | 15:48 |
| uvos | which imo is a flaw that will never allow it to be a major platform (or other linux-phones either for that matter) | 15:49 |
| uvos | not that thats a bad thing | 15:49 |
| uvos | i dont really want pm preemtion | 15:49 |
| Wizzup | yes fremantle on my n900 still outlasts android on modern phones | 15:50 |
| Wizzup | :D | 15:50 |
| Wizzup | s/yes/yet/ | 15:50 |
| buZz | \o/ | 15:50 |
| uvos | sure if your a technical user | 15:50 |
| uvos | you can make it happen | 15:50 |
| buZz | with a smaller battery | 15:50 |
| uvos | but without pm preemtion it fairs bad in the wild, also evidenced with legacy maemo reviews of the time | 15:51 |
| uvos | like imagine leste with all the mobile games and crap installed on your avage android device | 15:51 |
| uvos | :D | 15:51 |
| uvos | also all the telemetry | 15:51 |
| uvos | battery would implode | 15:51 |
| Wizzup | that's exactly the point | 15:51 |
| uvos | android just manages to work out ok because of preemtion | 15:51 |
| Wizzup | we don't need it because we don't ship with crap | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | and we won't | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | whatever people do with it after that is their problem | 15:52 |
| uvos | right but android the _os_ is really great with pm | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | I never said it did, it's just not relevant | 15:52 |
| Wizzup | never said it didn't* | 15:52 |
| buZz | does anyone know where 'all sms' are stored? i wanna backup em | 16:06 |
| buZz | or just poke at the files a bit, i guess | 16:07 |
| Wizzup | .rtcom-eventlogger/el-v1.db | 16:16 |
| Wizzup | https://leste.maemo.org/User:Wizzup/Telepathy#Logging | 16:16 |
| dsc_ | and the world famous randomizer: https://github.com/maemo-leste/conversations/blob/master/tools/randomize-el-v1.py | 16:21 |
| Guest224 | It seems there was almost little Leste vs Android war after I left. Make Maemo not War ;) | 16:28 |
| freemangordon | well, kernel compilation takes time... | 16:29 |
| buZz | https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/2022-08-31-163452_960x540_scrot.png | 16:36 |
| buZz | :) | 16:36 |
| buZz | ooo , .rtcom-eventlogger has a plugins subdirectory? :D | 16:38 |
| uvos | the plugins imo seam kinda pointless | 16:42 |
| uvos | but yes it has plugins | 16:42 |
| buZz | what kind of plugins are there? | 16:57 |
| uvos | various types of events have plugins | 16:57 |
| uvos | but they do mostly nothing | 16:57 |
| buZz | i have to say, pinephone with latest updates does feel a lot snappier :D | 17:30 |
| freemangordon | tmlind: sorry, I give up on serdev-ngsm, please help | 18:22 |
| xmn | that's good to hear buZz | 18:54 |
| sicelo | believe it or not - since i disabled charge mode, i can more reliably get my droid 4 to charge from empty. no change whatsoever in hardware | 19:27 |
| uvos | well since you said it hangs for you every time thats no suprise | 19:36 |
| uvos | i cant repoduce it hanging besides the drm hang that happens occasionally so idk whats happening on your d4 | 19:36 |
| uvos | usefull would be if you could try and investigate your hang a least a bit | 19:37 |
| sicelo | buZz: fix your current readout, haha :p | 19:39 |
| buZz | its superaccurate :P | 19:39 |
| buZz | just mA :D | 19:39 |
| buZz | or eh uA ? | 19:40 |
| sicelo | i mean in desktop-cmd-exec | 19:40 |
| buZz | why 'fix' ? | 19:40 |
| sicelo | why is it giving you 'invalid command'? | 19:41 |
| buZz | oh | 19:41 |
| buZz | huh | 19:41 |
| sicelo | iirc that's because whatever script you're running doesn't return output | 19:41 |
| buZz | weird, thats not on the phone | 19:41 |
| buZz | yeah there's no script, just bash oneliners i plonk i it :P | 19:41 |
| buZz | echo "$(cat /sys/bla)%" | 19:42 |
| buZz | :D | 19:42 |
| sicelo | 19:41 < buZz> weird, thats not on the phone ... << i'm referring to your screenshot | 19:42 |
| sicelo | https://space.nurdspace.nl/~buzz/2022-08-31-163452_960x540_scrot.png | 19:42 |
| buZz | yeah, i got it | 19:42 |
| buZz | on the phone its ~200000 usually on ''idle'' with screen on | 19:42 |
| buZz | and pretty bright | 19:42 |
| uvos | uff | 19:43 |
| sicelo | https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/desktop-cmd-exec/blob/4b43728947164dfe1fc9b028980c9f9757cb4d77/desktop-cmd-exec.c#L649-L651 | 19:45 |
| sicelo | it happens when the command fails ... so check your current readout command. it doesn't return non-zero (fails) | 19:45 |
| buZz | it might have to do with calibration | 19:50 |
| buZz | that if i didnt hit 'fully charged' from that boot, the current readout doesnt work? | 19:50 |
| buZz | like battery percentage aswell, iirc | 19:50 |
| uvos | no | 19:50 |
| sicelo | yes current should always be there (even on bq27200 driver which is very fussy about calibration) | 19:53 |
| buZz | ahhh indeed, i was trying to | bc -l "" something , but without success thusfar :P | 19:56 |
| buZz | just 'battery percentage' is empty when not hit a fully charged mode | 19:57 |
| buZz | well, and 'battery charge' | 19:57 |
| buZz | hmmm, with last updates i now have 2G icon visible from ofono registration (i guess) , but cant get my iap to appear for gprs with my old methods | 20:31 |
| buZz | maybe i should delete the iap and have it be reprovisioned? | 20:31 |
| uvos | no idea i cant get it to work either | 20:39 |
| uvos | even when its provisioned in ofono | 20:39 |
| buZz | ah, i guess i dont have all the latest updates, lets see | 20:43 |
| sicelo | one droid 4 thing that i see often nowadays is 'sudden death' | 20:48 |
| sicelo | just now i was doing `apt update`, and while looking away, it just died and rebooted | 20:48 |
| sicelo | i see these kinds of reboots often | 20:50 |
| buZz | maybe a loose battery connection? i havent had that really | 20:51 |
| sicelo | not battery, of course. device was sitting on a table, securely | 20:52 |
| buZz | what was the room temp during that? | 20:53 |
| buZz | hmmf, nope, even last ofono updates dont give me the gprs iap back | 21:00 |
| sicelo | heh, this week is cold :-) | 21:02 |
| sicelo | let me look at logs and see if i can pinpoint something | 21:03 |
| freemangordon | sicelo: sounds like a HW issue. you said you have a custom battery? | 22:18 |
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